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April 20, 2009

Gary Randall Defers the Ultimate Authority in Defining Marriage to the Seattle Times

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I thought selected verses in the Bible were supposed to be the ultimate authority, but Gary Randall has just ceded the power to define marriage to that institution he loves to hate, the Seattle Times.  Or rather, to his off-the-rails misreading of them.

More below the fold.Seattle Times recently ran an op ed saying

PASSAGE of the Domestic Partners Expansion bill moves Washington quietly, purposefully and rightfully down a path toward full recognition of same-sex unions for what they are, marriages.

Gov. Chris Gregoire’s signature on the legislation, which passed both houses of the Legislature with strong support, is part of a cycle of progress that began in 2007 with the creation of a registry for domestic partners. Last year and this year, lawmakers provided these families with the legal prerogatives granted to spouses…

Marriage is the institution that socializes couples and families into a community. Consider that marriage has at least three elemental features: a loving relationship, a legal definition and societal recognition….

Official recognition of these marriages – these families – is a logical and overdue step.

Seems clear to me that the Times is saying that we are, quite appropriately, heading towards marriage equality, but we’re not there yet.  But Gary willfully misreads the op-ed, pretending it “confirms” that the DP Expansion Bill of 2009 “was marriage all along”, and takes the opportunity to call Senators Ed Murray and Rodney Tom liars (A bold move for someone who has colluded to lie to entire congregations.).

Here is Gary’s blog post about the Times‘ op-ed.  As you read it and my responses (in green), think about what kind of example Gary is setting for his grandchildren: If you have nothing logical or honest to say, lie like hell.

Seattle Times: “Domestic Partnerships are Marriage, Apply the Word”

The Seattle Times is at full throttle, going straight for homosexual marriage in Friday’s edition.

  • The op-ed was meaningful and significant, but it wasn’t “full throttle”.  ”Full throttle” would have been the Times doing a big front page photo spread of actual domestic partners, showing our faces and letting us tell our stories.

    Be assured we are responding with equal passion and conviction in preparation to file our referendum. We, however, are restraining ourselves until the bill is actually signed into law.

  • No, actually they are restraining themselves until they are certain that Tim Eyman doesn’t beat them to the referendum filing punch again.  No one can file for a referendum until after the Governor signs the bill.
  • Gary, you call filing dozens of mean spirited and sometimes unconstitutional amendments in legislative committee hearings and on the Senate and House floor “restraining ourselves”?  Really now.

    The Times loaded their gun by choosing to carry several national columns supporting homosexual marriage. On Thursday they carried Ellen Goodman’s piece “Defense of Marriage Act Is Becoming Indefensible,” and Friday, Fromma Harrop’s syndicated column, “The State by State Evolution of Gay Marriage,” along with their own editorial proclamation, “Domestic Partnerships Are Marriage, Apply The Word.”

    Before Gov. Gregoire can even sign the bill, SB 5688, into law—-and she has a quick draw for advancing the homosexual agenda, Washington’s largest newspaper is saying it was marriage all along,

  • Here is where Gary flat out chooses to misrepresent the Times op-ed.  But then this is a guy who cherry-picks the Bible, so at least he’s keeping in character.confirming exactly what I and others in the faith community have been saying from the day this bill was introduced.
  • No, what you said was
    They have introduced a series of bills under the guise of “rights” and “benefits” that are intended to equalize the status of traditional marriage with that of homosexual couples. The bills…are intended to create “marriage” without the name.

    And that is exactly what we’re getting.  If there is any place in the DP bill that allows DP’d couples to use the word “marriage” or get a civil marriage from a Justice of the Peace or sympathetic clergy, I wish he would point it out.  Maybe Gary can loan me his secret decoder ring.

    But wait! Didn’t Sen. Ed Murray stand tearfully, with quivering voice on the floor of the Senate and say, “I wish this bill was marriage, I sincerely wish this bill was marriage, but it is not”? Yes, he did. I just reviewed the video. And didn’t Senator Rodney Tom from the 48th District around Bellevue and Redmond send out a letter assuring his constitutes that this was not gay marriage? He sure did, I just reread it.

    Why did they lie?

  • The question is, Gary, how you can read truthful statements and call them lies.  Again, there is nothing in the DP bill that allows DP’s couples to use the word “marriage”, or to get a civil marriage like everyone else: from a Justice of the Peace or sympathetic clergy.  Isn’t there a term for what Gary is doing here?  Besides libel, I mean.

    I guess that was then—this is now. All the homosexual activists who have sworn on a stack of —-something, assuring voters that this was not—I repeat not, gay marriage, are now basking in the afterglow of the deception.

  • Gary cedes the definition of marriage to a newspaper, but retains the right to define “Christian”.

    Truth changes when relativism is the compass.

    Not only is the Seattle Times calling for the state to go straight to homosexual marriage, their editorial board has even published their own definition of marriage.

    The Times says, “Passage of the Domestic Partners Expansion bill moves Washington quietly, purposefully and rightfully down a path toward full recognition of same-sex unions for what they are, marriage.”

    The “big lie,” that was said to be merely about benefits and fairness—not marriage, has now succeeded, and as the Times now affirms, is marriage.

  • On the contrary, the Times, not to mention the legislation itself, recognize that same-sex couples are still barred by law from civil marriage.  The legislature passed the defense of marriage law in 1998, and the state supreme court ruled it constitutional.  Gary can set his hair on fire and lie about the current DP bill, but that doesn’t change reality.  It just makes him look like a fool.

    The Times also admits that the big lie was quietly and purposefully moved forward.

  • Quietly?  Here I even disagree with the Times.  At each stage, the authors of the bill have publicly announced not only the proximate bill, but their ultimate goal of civil marriage equality (clearly, we’re not there yet).  Then the multiple public legislative committee hearings, the floor debates in the House and Senate, the press coverage by the Seattle Times and others, the rallies…  There has been nothing quiet about the DP bills. We now better understand what we all knew 4 weeks ago when the news media that regularly covers a half dozen people on any given corner protesting any given idea, would not cover 2400 citizens standing on the Capitol steps in the rain in defense of marriage.

    Their silence on SB 5688 has been deafening.

  • Not any more deafening than the bored silence from non-Seattle papers.  By the way, Gary is a carpetbagger from Oregon, so who is he to criticize Washington newspapers for anything?

    The Times now has their own definition of marriage: They say marriage is an institution that socializes couples and families into a community; consists of a loving relationship; has a legal definition and societal recognition.

  • If Gary thinks marriage is none of those things, then can we expect him soon to renounce his wife before his community, tells her he doesn’t love her, and get a divorce?

    Ellen Goodman, in her column carried by the Times last Thursday titled, “Defense Of Marriage Act is Indefensible,” says DOMA, “Is an out of date law that enforces an identity crises.”

    Those who honor an institution that has existed for more than 5000 years in every civilization, which honors and elevates the special union between a man and a woman, provides for procreation and the nurturing of the child and is the cornerstone of every successful society in history, are now diminished to people who are in some kind of identity crises.

  • Mitt Romney says it’s 3000 years.  So which is it?  And if God created the Earth only 3000 years ago, then you’re saying he set up the institution 2K years before he even created the beings that would use it?  Mysterious ways, indeed!

    There is certainly an identity crises, however it exists with those who are helping drive the homosexual agenda who cannot decide from day to day which restroom they want to use.

  • I think the real crisis lies with people like Gary who see their funding base slipping away, and are so desperate that they throw out random comments in hopes that something will stick.

    This deceptive agenda seeks not only societal recognition, but cultural affirmation. They are standing squarely against the historical beliefs of every society in history, every major religion in history and the biblical teachings upon which this country was founded.

  • Nothing deceptive about it.  Senator Murray was clear from Day 1 that we’re putting DPs in place to provide needed legal security for same-sex families while we pursue our ultimate goal of civil marriage equality.  But we haven’t reached that goal yet.

    Is this enough to awaken us? I think it is.

    Gov. Gregoire will almost certainly sign the bill this week.

    We are prepared to immediately file a referendum to overturn SB 5688 once she has signed it.

    The Faith and Freedom PAC board has been expanded, a coalition of nearly all the faith based organizations in the state have come together and we are committed to work together to defend marriage and overturn this back door deception to achieve homosexual marriage in Washington State.

    The organizations have asked me to lead and we will be using the Faith and Freedom PAC, however nearly all the faith based groups will be involved in the campaign and in leading their respective groups of supporters.

    Larry Stickney from Washington Values, Senator Dan Swecker, Representatives Matt Shea and Jim McCune have been added to the PAC board and Ron Boehme of YWAM and others will be involved in top leadership.

  • What a line-up.  Larry Stickney boasts a record of campaign failures.  Dan Swecker wants WA taxpayers to foot the bill for The Washington Hate Coalition‘s referendum effort.  Matt Shea embarrassed himself and wasted valuable committee time by introducing redundant, out of scope, mean spirited and sometimes unconstitutional amendments.  Ron Boehme is a failed politician who menacingly refers to civil rights advocates as “clouds of darkness”.
    Please join the army to push away the clouds of darkness and bring back the bright and glorious sun of personal salvation for many, and cultural renewal for all.

    With friends like these, Gary…

    We must all stand together. No one alone can or should attempt to address this issue. We believe that with God’s help and blessing, your support, and a united effort, we can turn this tide. The wind is not at our back at the moment.

    We fully understand that we are standing against the press and the electronic media in most cases. We further understand that many young people have been indoctrinated by public education to turn away from the historical model of marriage and forsake both societal norm and biblical teaching on homosexuality and marriage.

  • A curious comment coming from a man who uses “the electronic media” of websites and blogs, as do his compatriots in The Washington Hate Coalition.
  • Also curious that an evangelist would have a word of criticism about indoctrination, whether real or perceived.  Isn’t that what Sunday school is all about?

    We also understand that many well meaning people have been misled and deceived into thinking that this is about fairness and benefits, not about homosexual marriage. We feel that the truth will surface and it will be seen in the light of articles such as the Times columns, the Seattle Times editorial board itself and our campaign to educate the public on this issue.

  • Since Senator Murray has been open and honest from Day 1 that civil marriage equality is our ultimate goal, the only deception taking place is in Gary’s libel.

    The numbers I’m initially seeing are indicating that Washington voters do not approve of homosexual marriage. More on that later.

    Our efforts to overturn SB 5688 will draw national attention and nationwide financial support from homosexual activists to defeat us.

  • And you will receive no assistance from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the Roman Catholic Church, Focus on the Family, Eagle Forum or any of the other cash cows anti-LGBT Professional Christians milk?  Uh huh.

    Are you prepared to stand with us?

    We are already receiving emails from Europe and elsewhere opposing our efforts.

    This is the time. And this is the defining issue.

    This is an issue in which people of faith and conservatives must prevail. The future of our culture hangs in the balance. The kind of state and community you will hand to your children and grandchildren is attached to this issue.

    Please stand with us financially and prayerfully. Donate to Faith and Freedom Foundation.

  • Please DO click on that link so that you can see that Gary is funneling cash into his organization, not into the PAC set up for the referendum effort.  What a scammer.

    Thank you and God bless you.

    ______________

    Gary Randall

    President

    Faith & Freedom


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