While I don’t like to count the chickens before they hatch, the Romney campaign’s level of desperation and flopsweat is telling.
Headline #1: Romney, Business Allies Finish With Strong Argument: Vote With Us, Or You’re Fired.
Romney himself urged conservative business leaders this June to “make it very clear to your employees what you believe is in the best interest of your enterprise and therefore their job and their future in the upcoming elections.”
Before the Supreme Court’s 5-4 Citizens United decision, it would have been illegal for a boss to tell an employee that “their job and their future” was on the ballot on Election Day. But the court now considers such electoral pressure an expression of free speech.
“Nothing illegal about you talking to your employees about what you believe is best for the business, because I think that will figure into their election decision, their voting decision,” Romney told the business owners associated with the National Federation of Independent Business, a political organization closely aligned to the Republican Party.
This bullying tactic by the GOP and its backers is nothing new. The horror of Citizens United and “corporations are people” result is what makes this brazen act grotesque. But again, it’s because this party simply cannot run on its ideas — and believes it cannot win on them. Gaming the system is all they have left.
Headline #2: Romney Skips Presidential Youth Debate.
In an epic show of confidence, Mittens bags an event that no nominee has skipped out on since 1996. The President’s video response has been up at the org’s web site, with no response from the Romney camp.
The non-partisan civic- and youth-engagement organization has allowed younger Americans across the country
to ask the questions that matter to them to the presidential candidates. Indeed some of the questions — including one on youth unemployment — appear to be teed up for Romney to answer, but he declined to participate according to the group.
The organization’s statement is below:
In June both President Obama and Gov. Romney were invited in the hope they would both take this opportunity to address millions of young people about the issues that are most important to them. Unfortunately, despite our efforts over a four-month period, Gov. Romney declined participation. He is the first and only candidate in our 16-year history to decide not to answer the questions young Americans chose as most important through the Presidential Youth Debate. With Millennials being the nation’s largest potential voting bloc, we’re still very much hoping Gov. Romney might change his mind and provide his responses via video or even as text anytime before Nov. 6th, so young Americans can cast an even more informed ballot in the Election.
Headline #3: Romney Campaign, Karl Rove Framing Hurricane Sandy For Possible Election Day Defeat.
So, if Mittens goes down to defeat on Tuesday, here’s the pre-fab excuse for the bellyflop – not because the GOP candidate is a compulsive (and easy to prove) liar with has no feasible, realistic plan to offer the country as an alternative to the guy already in the big chair.
Romney’s allies also began to point prematurely at the timing of Sandy. Republican strategist Karl Rove called the storm the “October Surprise” and argued it had been disadvantageous toward Romney in an interview with The Washington Post on Friday.
“If you hadn’t had the storm, there would have been more of a chance for the [Mitt] Romney campaign to talk about the deficit, the debt, the economy,” Rove said. “There was a stutter in the campaign. When you have attention drawn away to somewhere else, to something else, it is not to his [Romney's] advantage.”
…Putting all campaigning aside, Christie repeatedly commended Obama’s outreach and support in a rare show of bipartisanship — the kind the president has been promising to pursue if he wins a second term. Earlier on Saturday, Politico reported that the Romney campaign was frustrated by Christie’s recent show of affection for Obama, another sign that they felt their candidate had been placed in a losing position on account of the storm.
One can only imagine the cursing and swearing at the mere sight or mention of Christie in GOP quarters this week — “frustration” has to be an understatement. I was waiting for Fox News to declare that the NJ governor had been replaced by a pod person.
What I refuse to believe is that the GOP, Rove and the right-wing talking heads will simply blame the storm — they will want someone’s head for losing an election they thought they had in the bag.
But they still have funny business at the polls in key states to hold out hope for – everyone get your posteriors out and VOTE. (All those races downticket matter!)




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Would that the odor of Republican FAIL be enough to mask the stench of Democratic betrayal.
One note drone, you are.
Blech, I say. You’re boring me to tears.
And, no, I don’t have many left.
I’ll miss you after the election and your bigchin check stops coming.
Bye!
Thank you, Pam.
You know, there are just So Many reasons he is losing traction. So many stories, with the words coming out of his mouth. And, people, some, like you, who are hammering the Ugly. Hammering meaning sharing the Facts.
I would really like to take a 2 day nap and have someone wake my up on Wednesday morning.
As long as the right/left robots are happy just pissing on each other our choices won’t get any better.
And you’re right – the bitterness of Obama’s 2cd term will linger long after the sweetness of RMoney’s demise has been forgotten.
And they say Obama blames everyone else for everything… just saying
Oh, your words change the universe.
I’m out.
I am worried the GOP has enflamed their base with ideas of Dem voter fraud so that if Obama wins they will say Obama stole the election.
They are attacking Nate Silver for pointing out the polling is against Mitt. The Mainstream Media is also pushing for Mitt by assuming that Florida is solid Mitt and all Mitt needs is to win in Iowa, Colorado, Ohio etc however Mitt’s chances to win any one of those those states are about the same as Obama’s chance to win Florida.
demi,
Thank you. You said it a lot nicer than I would have.
Maybe all the trolls who are paid by the post/word will finally leave.
FDL must really piss the Reichwing off.
You are right, this came from the son of a former democratic leader in a post asking us to vote for Obomba:
“I have spoken with so many Republicans who, when arguing for Governor Romney, have made the startling point that it does not really matter who is president. Both parties are more or less the same.”
No matter what happens Tuesday: meet the new boss, he is the same as the old boss.
Will Mitt play the bad loser and claim Obama stole the election? The MainStream Media by saying Mitt is still in the game ignores the facts that the same odds of Mitt winning are the same odds of Obama winning Florida and getting a landslide of over 300 electoral votes.
So worse case scenario all the polling companies assumptions about likely voters are wrong as African Americans and Hispanics come out in huge numbers, GOP Women defect from the GOP in every race where a Pro Rape GOPer is running, Gays turn out for Obama in force and older Whites retired or about to retire vote against Mitt and Ryan’s plans to cut SS.
In other words the polling is hugely wrong Obama wins big but because of GOP and MSM lies the GOPers think Obama must have stole the election.
This gives the GOPers a fake justification to launch a coup.
We’re not trolls. We’re fucking retards. Didn’t you get the memo from Rahm?
The trolls will be depressed for awhile after they lose the election but they will be back again in a few months.
However if the Tea Baggers lose big this election the GOP will need a new idea to rally their flying monkeys with.
FDL needs to watch how the Tea Baggers do this election and the Dem Blue Dogs if both groups lose seats we might have some reason to hope this election.
Rahm is a troll
“This gives the GOPers a fake justification to launch a coup…”
Not this time, not this place.
We will try and stop them of course but that does not mean they won’t try the GOP wants power and they dislike being restrained by laws a coup gives them power with no laws they have been hoping for a justification for awhile now.
You are absolutely right on what we must watch.
I pulled a number of election night lists on what to watch for in trends that night and it will really be interesting with the TeaBaggers and Blue Dogs.
Yes and watch what Karl Rove has to say about the election will Karl admit he was wrong again about the Math?
Or just avoid all tv news shows? Third option he or another high up GOPer accuses Obama of election fraud on tv then we know a coup will likely happen soon the GOP will have to try and provide a justification for their coup attempt a public arguing of their case.
I am old enough to have witnessed three political assassinations.
I think the American people this time around have had enough of the extreme Right Wing nonsense to not stand still and accept it.
I am not talking big here, it is just that when JFK was assassinated it was the extreme John Birchers who were promoting violent ideas and most bought the idea of a “crazy, deranged single man” doing it.
When I say “not this time,” there are too many ways for us to communicate among ourselves that were not present in 1963.
Given Mitt’s eagerness to say anything to win this race we must assume that cheating or even a coup attempt would not be beyond Mitt the smell of failure is followed by the stench of cheating.
I like your attitude
You are making a very good argument of just how this could play out.
Time to watch carefully what happens starting on November 7th.
Thanks I hope the front pagers watch too hopefully I am wrong.
I’m getting bullied by anti Obama trolls at Firedoglake, I’m getting bullied by pro Obama trolls at Daily Kos and all of these people have one thing in common: They have decided that I’m too irresponsible, stupid, uninformed, puerile, etc to be trusted to make up my own mind about this election, regardless of who they are for or against. Know what? FUCK YOU! Fuck you people and the horses you rode in on. My vote is MY business and I can’t wait until after the election and the inevitable blame that you folks are going to heap on me whether Obama wins or loses and you finally, at long last, GO AWAY. You wouldn’t last five minutes in my shoes and you have accomplished nothing but making sure that I never grant you credibility and that I never, ever march with you on anything. You know what I find ironic? These people love to throw the term “robot” around and apply it everybody who doesn’t automatically, sycophantically agree with them. In other words, everybody’s a robot except their robots. Guess what geniuses? I’ve already voted. I voted on Thursday and whom I voted for in none of your fucking business. Go start your own dictatorship if you must control everybody’s vote.
Sorry I went off Pam. I can’t stand any more of this bullshit from them.
Please don’t leave, Demi. That’s what the trolls want you to do, so they can hijack the site.
Your analysis about what could happen is very good.
When you said to watch the response from Karl Rove, that would be a very good “tell” that I did not think about, especially the third option.
I guess it will come down to how big the margin of victory will be that determines how Karl responds per your suggestion.
Isn’t it crazy that one man can manipulate the entire electoral process.
Where I live, the candidate that is trying to unseat a teapublican has had to face a barrage of Crossroads GPS vicious ads. Throw in the ads from the Republican Congressional Committee, the ads are showing up about 8 every hour and I am being conservative with only eight as a number.
Oh, exactly. Only recently have I been able to go back at all to Daily Kos, and that was after Markos took steps to rein in the worst of the pro-Obama people who were gaming the site moderation system. At MyFDL, things were rapidly getting nasty in the other direction until Jane stepped in this spring and bounced the worst of the Carnacs.
It can still be dicey at both places — I’ve got a Daily Kos UID in the low four digits and I still nearly got banned for life last year merely for daring to point out how the Obamabots were gaming the site’s self-moderation system — but it’s starting to get better. After the elections I think it will get better still.
Oh good, the person who believes he can have me or any other American killed on a whim will win the election. Such joy I feel.
Margaret,
Good job.
Early in the thread the trolls were here and drove demi off.
We cannot let that happen. I was waiting for responses to my posts above but after their “hit and runs” where are they now.
You have said many times that we have to face down the bullies, this happens right here at FDL and when we quit the site, they win.
It is not going to happen, I will not be driven off and there are way more of us than them.
We care about what we say, feel, think. They are simply paid to disrupt.
Margaret, you are too important a person here to let them get to you.
We have your back.
Yep. Save me from extremists and ideologues. These people are interested in one thing: Winning. Period, end of story. They have to be right and they are going to make sure you acknowledge their being right from now until the end of time or you’ll never get a moment of peace. Again, the irony in being called a “robot” for my refusal to become one of theirs is staggering.
I keep thinking of how Teddy Kennedy doomed any chance Jimmy Carter had back in 1980, thus paving the way for Ronald Reagan. (And there were people back then saying that Carter and Reagan were the same. Liars or fools or both. If Carter had been allowed a second term, we would have continued the good work he did with solar and wind power, and very likely would have had widespread adoption of electric cars at least a decade earlier than we actually did. That alone would have been enough to save the world. Literally.)
Also we need to be drug-tested. Don’t forget that part.
http://www.jillstein.org/
One thing I wish that both FDL and DK could adopt: Killfiles. That way, instead of being baited into responding to trolls, they are dropped into the killfile (Greasemonkey had a useful one that worked well for Salon’s late lamented Table Talk) and eventually either vanish for lack of attention, or make themselves so obnoxious that the banhammer comes down.
Meanwhile, the adults can continue to hold productive conversations.
Well said PW.
I hate it when the Republcans trash Jimmy Carter.
In my humble opinion, he is the one ex-President that kept doing good things for this nation. Not for the attention, but just because of being the good man that he is.
More than once I have had a “discussion” with someone who tried to disparage him.
My hope is that I get to meet him someday and tell him “thanks.”
I guess that tired old meme, common on HP for the first few years of Obomba sell-outs, that anyone opposed to Obomba must be a repuglican/ tea-party troll, lives on here at FDL. Above all else it shows the lack of imagination of centrist democravens, their short-sightedness/ unwillingness to consider the long term (two steps forward, one step back), and their unwillingness dump Obama even after he, to quote someone here, has cut off their arms and used them to thrash them.
The thing is, these people aren’t trying to persuade anybody. They are attempting to intimidate us into their way of thinking. When people debate or persuade, they don’t call people who disagree with them names and insult them to one another as if the people who are their targets aren’t there or can’t read. Note the insults, the lack of any kind of respect or consideration for any other points of view. Don’t agree? Well here’s a few names for you and I’m going to assign all kinds of derogatory and dismissive traits to you in an effort designed to reduce your credibility, to make you too radioactive for others to support. God, it’s old.
Book Salon up with Matt Kennard’s Irregular Army: How the US Military Recruited Neo-Nazis, Gang Members, and Criminals to Fight the War on Terror hosted by Daryl Johnson
and ThingsComeUndone
Whoever wins, I expect the charges of voter fraud, voter suppression, or voting machine tampering will be heard from both sides. On the R side it will be loud and span the politicians, the Roves, and the media noise machine. On the D side, well, we can only hope there will be a fight in cases where a fight is necessary. Probably they’ll just blame the people who voted for
NaderStein.Still, it will be important to watch and try to understand as much as we can where we stand as far as the integrity or not of the voting process.
My, oh my, what hath this column wrought? I’m reminded of the old saw, ” the biggest of arguments are always about the the smallest of differences. ” I’m voting for the 3rd party candidates or not voting at all for the first time in memory and I’m getting fuckin’ old. Remember that pledge about not supporting Obama if he didn’t call off the dogs on medical marijuana outlets? Well,I took it and am sticking to my guns, if not clinging to my Bible. I think I could site other numerous reasons or ” position papers ” to support my choice. There are always legitimate reasons for not doing something ” on the margins ” and this is one of those out of bounds calls that infuriates the fans on both sides. After this election the country and our Congress will still be a quagmire of corruption and full of political cancers. The body politic needs a trauma center and the ICU for 8-10 years to regain its’ health. And the people who were selected in this cycle to represent us have no intention or understanding of how to do that. It is time to start ” the restoration ” of our political economy and it won’t happen with this bunch. Sorry, I’m just not that into them and just hope, at long last, ” that our national nightmare is finally over. ” For another four years, anyway.
I really worry about the integrity of the voting process and it is getting worse as each election approaches.
Supposedly, Obama has 2500 lawyers on the ground in Ohio. I really feel that they are going to get a workout come Tuesday.
I hope they are there and willing to put up a fight. Even if they do it mostly for self-preservation, it’s the right thing to do and it would be an important step toward stemming this trend toward voter suppression.
Amen, sister; ran into that POV on another thread. Thanks.
Oh, I meant, just leaving the thread to take a nap.
But, thanks. That was sweet, PW.
I am a loyal fan of FDL. In for a penny. In for a pound.
I’m not sure if you mean most John Birchers bought the lone nut explanation or most people did. I don’t think either is accurate. The public, at large, had never bought into the lone nut explanation. It’s only the media gatekeepers (at the behest of their intelligence community masters – see under Operation Mockingbird) that creates the appearance of widespread acceptance. As for the Birchers, they probably thought it was a Commie plot, which was the intention of the real perps (the CIA’s Mexico City station was linked to numerous disinformation stories about Oswald accepting money from Cuban or Soviet agents to kill Kennedy).
The lone nut thing was a fallback position (that Hoover and Johnson readily bought into for expedience) that was adopted once the idea of a plot became too dangerous for the establishment to acknowledge.
General observation: Romney losing – Good! Obama winning – not so good.
If the hurricane is tipping the election to Obama, does that make God an Islamic Kenyan?
Please people, regulars here have so much in common in their views of what a civil society should look like. Obama will get right back to the Grand Bargain if he’s elected. Romney is aligned with people who seem to get some sick satisfaction from the thought of teenage girls bleeding out in back allies again, and might rig the rules so that we never have an approximation of a fair election.
It’s a hellish, personal choice influenced by whether or not one is in a swing state, the relative influence a voter places on various issues and other factors too numerous to mention. Let’s accept the goodwill of all. It’s not as though we, disagreements among us, constitute such a dominant majority that we can afford to toss people off with purity tests.
Look, Obama is going to win. Mitt the Twit is (hopefully) history.
Chris Christie showed himself to be actually human this week, unlike the top of the ticket.
So Obama needs to deliver………… big time.
It’s time for the people to hit the streets to let Obama know, this time the people are serious.
Yup. Love it.
I’m also sick of hearing how it makes no difference, Obama is as bad as Mitt and Stein can’t win. It’s painful to involuntarily witness such extreme immaturity.
Pam’s right. Get out and vote.
agreed, but it’s OK to count the eggs.
I agree. Kill files were what made Usenet bearable. I have no idea why the new and “improved” technologies can’t handle them. I’m guessing that they can, but the programmers on some of these sites are either too lazy to bother or really don’t understand the Internet.
Christie was persona non grata in Willard’s campaign after the way he comported himself at the convention. Plus, Christie, as much as I dislike the guy can smell defeat and wants to be the party standard bearer in four yrs. He’s already basically saying Willard who? Never heard of the guy.
I dislike Christie also. Just that he showed himself to be human this last week, unlike that awful little dweeb Romney.
The man might have some character at least.
I’d never vote for him. But I’ll give him some credit.
funny.
and, true.
peas!
and, vote.
This is what I am doing (disappearing for 2+ days). I work from noon to midnight Friday to Sunday. I am going home in about an hour and will have no contact with the outside world or any news source (radio, print, web, tv, or person outside my immediate family) until late Wednesday night. Call it a 72-hour media/news blackout. Plan to get in some piano playing, reading (just either watch read my current book (Mechanique: A Tale of the Circus Tresaulti) or watch the first two seasons of ‘Game of Thrones’ which I have not seen yet.
And, for those who are curious, I already voted by absentee ballot for Rocky Anderson.
To tell you my opinion i think that is the other way around,the smell is coming from Obama’s campaign ,they were eating the pie 4 years so they know the taste, they are in panic mode. I reckon that is very possible, almost a fact that Obama is gonna win,the question is : is it better a lame duck in power for another 4 years?
i believe is not!! Both are crap, but a lame duck that will sold people out without hesitation is worse.
Carter was the only president, at least in the 20th century, elected by the people.
He bragged that he wasn’t a creature of the party and, before his inauguration, threatened hacks of both parties that he would take his case to the people if obstructed. So far, so good.
However, he didn’t follow through and the two parties colluded to destroy his presidency.
I think his flaw was that he craved respect from members of Congress and therefore underestimated their determination to ruin him.
Walter Karp, in Indispensable Enemies, describes Carter’s candidacy as a true democratic awakening and the closest we ever came to bringing down both parties.
If only Carter had been visited by the ghost of Robert LaFollette….
It breaks my heart that Hurricane Sandy thwarted KKKarl Rove in his wish to squeeze just a few more big fat stinking lies through the lips of serial liars Romney and Ryan. And they were slated to be released close enough to the election that fact-checkers’ corrections wouldn’t get to all voters in time. So they must have been whoppers.
Don’t worry KKKarl, you can just put them back in your bag of dirty tricks and haul them out for the next election cycle.