I guess it depends on who the reporter is and the interviewees. When the President came out in support of marriage equality there was the predicted flurry of articles about the impact of his statement (which still indicated his support of leaving the decision to discriminate up to the states). It was expected that some elements of the “black church” (it’s not a monolith, people) would bust a gut opposing this evolution on the right of same-sex couples to marry, but there was not an overwhelming outcry. Many clergy either took no position or were supportive.
However, the media loves focusing on dissent, and there were a number of black pastors all too eager to get face time and coverage. Right here on the Blend, Alvin McEwen covered one pimp of discrimination in detail, Rev. William Owens, the president and founder of the Coalition of African-Americans Pastors.
This group takes its cues from the anti-LGBT National Organization for Marriage, which affiliates with pastors like Owens as part of its bold wedge strategy that was exposed earlier this year by the Human Rights Campaign to divide blacks and gays. In his zeal to “protect the family,” Owens said this to CNN:
“The time has come for a broad-based assault against the powers that be that want to change our culture to one of men marrying men and women marrying women,” said Owens, in an interview Tuesday after the launch event at the National Press Club. “I am ashamed that the first black president chose this road, a disgraceful road.”
Please. And the Associated Press just ran this piece “African-American Christians waver over vote” speculating there is some mass movement afoot to encourage religious blacks to sit out the election because the marriage equality issue represents some tipping point more important than, say voter ID and other Republican voter-suppression efforts, education, health care and the like.
Some black clergy see no good presidential choice between a Mormon candidate and one who supports gay marriage, so they are telling their flocks to stay home on Election Day. That’s a worrisome message for the nation’s first African-American president, who can’t afford to lose any voters from his base in a tight race. The pastors say their congregants are asking how a true Christian could back same-sex marriage, as President Barack Obama did in May. As for Republican Mitt Romney, the first Mormon nominee from a major party, congregants are questioning the theology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its former ban on men of African descent in the priesthood.
…The Rev. Dwight McKissic, a prominent Southern Baptist and black preacher, describes himself as a political independent who didn’t support Obama in 2008 because of his position on social issues. McKissic said Obama’s support for same-gender marriage “betrayed the Bible and the black church.” Around the same time, McKissic was researching Mormonism for a sermon and decided to propose a resolution to the annual Southern Baptist Convention that would have condemned Mormon “racist teachings.”
McKissic’s Mormon resolution failed. On Election Day, McKissic said, “I plan to go fishing.”
While McKissic plans to go fishing, NOM is trying to seal the deal to encourage black voters to oppose the President by purchasing radio air time in states like North Carolina and engaging the ridiculous homophobic pastor Patrick Wooden, who was prominent on the air during the pro-Amendment One campaign. Wooden, by the way, claims adult gay men have “to wear a diaper or a butt plug just to be able to contain their bowels”; also: “we are armed with the truth about the damage that people are doing to their rectums and anuses as a result of participating in these perversive, sexual acts.”
Here’s NOM’s/Wooden’s diatribe to North Carolinians against President Obama over marriage equality.
The fact is that Wooden and NOM are airing this garbage doesn’t mean the religious black community is going to be swayed. While Amendment One passed here, the coalition of several hundred black pastors against it was vocal and statewide. It passed largely not along racial lines, as journalist Barry Yeoman reported; the divide was rural/urban.
Voters in majority-black precincts rejected the measure: Charlotte (52 percent), Raleigh (51 percent), Greensboro (54 percent), Winston-Salem (55 percent), and Durham (65 percent). Durham’s results were dramatic: Not a single majority-black precinct supported the amendment. Several crushed it by margins of 3-to-1 and even 4-to-1.
So I’m not convinced that black voters are going to stay home in some sort of protest action. This is also bolstered by the no-nonsense message to North Carolina pastors by Rev. Dr. William Barber II, President of NC NAACP. In response to the NOM bigot blast, he wrote an “Open Letter to Clergy Who Are Trying to Confuse African American Voters on Wedge Issue of Marriage Equality.”
While the NAACP does not endorse candidates for President of our nation, we vigorously debate the issues that should shape national, state, and local elections. And we will challenge those who attempt to mislead our communities. Some clergy are wrongly criticizing and distorting the views of the President on the issue of marriage equality. They are trying to confuse African American voters. They have a right to their opinions but to mislead demands a response. These clergy – whatever their motives – are woefully mistaken if they believe such tactics will work.
President Obama is President of the United States. His position as leader of all Americans represents the noble commitment he made by oath to all Americans when he took office. The President, a former professor of law, respects the 1st Amendment, which preserves the right of and freedom from religion. He, like the Constitution, recognizes that every church has the constitutional right to decide, depending on their faith tradition, how to address the issue of marriage within their ecclesiology. The President also respects the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which he also swore to uphold. This makes it his solemn duty to guarantee the “equal protection rights” of every citizen. Civil marriage is a right protected by the constitution, despite how one feels about what constitutes a marriage personally or religiously. The President swore to uphold the rights of all the people, not just some of us. His position is the same as Republicans like Dick Cheney.
Those who insist on distorting and criticizing the President for doing his sworn duty insult the Civil Rights Movement. These clergy ally themselves with the same extreme right organizations and people who have spent millions of dollars trying to overturn the 1965 Voting Rights Act, what most historians say was the most important achievement of the Civil Rights Movement. These clergy have allied with the same regressive forces determined to re-segregate and rob our public schools of adequate funding. These forces spend millions trying to block workers’ rights to organize; trying to force minorities, the poor, the elderly, and students to spend money to obtain voter photo ID’s to exercise their right to vote; trying to cut the time and opportunities to vote; turning their heads away from the gross racial disparities in the criminal justice system.
These are the same extremists who are stirring the pot about “gay marriage” and other code-slogans they dream up, all designed to divide and conquer the 99% who obviously can out-vote them. Their strategy is based on an arrogant assumption that we, the sons and daughters of the Civil Rights Movement, are too dumb to see through their Trojan Horse trick. They believe they can use wedge issues to seduce us into being a part of their scheme to deny LGBT brothers and sisters of their fundamental rights. This will not happen on our watch!
Many are disturbed and feel compelled to respond to the single-issue moral litmus test being used to publicly denounce the President. Those who are manipulating this wedge issue are unwilling to acknowledge his attempts to lift the poor, lift the jobless, protect the weak from the powerful, provide health care to the sick, educational opportunity to the children, protect voting rights, and protect the rights of all Americans, all of which are efforts that clearly line up with the primary moral concerns of the Judea Christian faith. This intentional ignorance renders their critique suspect and void of credibility.
We believe the issues that should shape our evaluation of Presidential candidates and others is where do they stand and what are their plans regarding 1) economic sustainability, poverty and labor rights, 2) educational equality, 3) healthcare for all, 4) disparities in the criminal justice system and 5) defending and expanding voting rights and voter participation.
Theologically, from a bible-centric perspective, and from the Judeo Christian faith I practice, the issues that should dominate our public square are: How we treat the poor. How we treat the sick. How we treat children. How we treat women. How we treat those on the margins. How we treat the outcasts of society.
There are more than 300 scriptures on these issues, more than any other moral issue noted in the scripture. The second most noted sin in the bible is mistreatment of the” least of these”, and the most noted is the sin of idolatry and self-worship, selfishness, and attempting to raise oneself to god status in judgment of others.
More below the fold.
Rev. Barber continues:
Let us remember scriptures like these that set the normative posture for faithful service in the public arena:
Luke 4
God’s Spirit is on me;
he has chosen me to preach the Message of good news to the poor,
Sent me to announce pardon to prisoners and
recovery of sight to the blind,
To set the burdened and battered free,
to announce, “This is God’s year to act!”
Or Isaiah 58
‘Why do we fast and you don’t look our way?
Why do we humble ourselves and you don’t even notice?’
‘Well, here’s why:
The bottom line on your ‘fast days’ is profit.
You drive your employees much too hard.
You fast, but at the same time you bicker and fight
You fast, but you swing a mean fist.
The kind of fasting you do won’t get your prayers off the ground.
Do you think this is the kind of fast day I’m after:
a day to show off humility?
To put on a pious long face and parade around solemnly in black?
Do you call that fasting, a fast day that I, God, would like?’
‘This is the kind of fast day I’m after: to break the chains of injustice,
Get rid of exploitation in the workplace,
free the oppressed,
to cancel debts.’
When you look at voting records and public policy positions carefully, the same forces fighting us on voting rights, educational equality, economic justice, addressing racial disparities in the criminal justice system, are the same forces sponsoring and paying for the current attacks on the LGBT community and the President.
No matter our color. No matter our faith tradition. Those who stand for love and justice are not about to fall for their trick. No matter how you feel personally about same sex marriage, no one, especially those of us whose forebears were denied constitutional protections and counted as 3/5ths of extra votes for their slave-masters, who were listed as mere chattel property in the old Constitution — none of us — should ever want to deny any other person constitutional protections.
What is most concerning about these clergy who try to suggest that this one wedge issue is the standard for measuring the moral fiber of our President, or anyone else for that matter, is that they seem to dismiss the essential call of the Judea Christian faith — to love everybody. We are commanded by our faith and God to care for the stranger, especially those on the margins as Jesus did.
Is it an act of love for these clergy to unite themselves with groups like the Family Research Council, the National Organization on Marriage, and other elements who have been classified as Hate Groups by national organizations who track the extreme right? Is it an act of caring for strangers, when these clergy embrace the right-wing philosophy of othering people? Of demonizing fellow human beings whom God clearly and dearly loves? Is it an act of Christian love to claim allegiance to scriptural standards that say so little about what God says so much and so much about what God says so little? Have these dismissed the “weightier matters of the law”– issues like poverty, caring for children, protecting women, the vulnerable, the least of these, and healing the sick? Do they fail to realize that it is even possible to be religiously heterocentric, without being constitutionally and socially homophobic? I pray that we will stop this denunciation of the President and other public servants and judge Him and them by the totality of their service and not through schemes designed by those outside our community to divide us for their own sinister and cynical motives. Yours in the Spirit of Truth and Justice,
Rev. Dr. William J. Barber, II
President North Carolina State Conference of the NAACP
I think the media needs to focus on figures like Rev. Barber, who articulate a much-more nuanced and informed position on these issues and placing them in the perspective of the larger issues that are facing voters this November than an issue like marriage equality — something that affects no one’s marriage. Sitting out an election when the choices could not be more different and issues that affect each voter at the state and municipal level are also on those ballots is a dangerous game these myopic religious leaders like Rev. Owens and Rev. Dwight McKissic are playing. Right into the very hands of extremists who would deny and suppress the vote by any means necessary.




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Does McKissic have the IQ to understand what Reverend Barber wrote?
Lots of blacks in my precinct. At the county-wide meetings they are pretty gung-ho for Obama. But, I have detected a little drop in enthusiasm in the past several months. My concernin is what I see in my white friends, democrats and independents who voted for Obama last time and will probably not vote for him again, the bulk, avoiding the presidential race entirely.
Me, I’m in Texas. WIl not vote for Romney but will vote third party Jill Stein in protest. I urge ALL left leaning persons in red states to vote Jill Stein.
Since I come from a Red State or Arizona, here in our Sonoran Desert, our issues are somewhat different. And as to voting for a third party, I will remain steadfast for being a proud Member of the Democratic Coalition.
And for us, the Spanish-speaking folks, we support Marriage Equality, and have for a large number of years, since our families have members that are either gay or lesbian. Regardless, the one issue that centralizes our angst and anger, is the scorn that is heaped on undocumented immigrants given that America is equivalent of today’s Great European Migration, and the sons and daughters of these undocumented immigrant continue to enjoy trashing or tarnishing their “ancestors.”
Today, Jeb Bush and Clint Bolick are co-authoring a book on the “economics” of immigration, in their preparation for becoming the GOP’s Team of 2016. Bolick as the litigation director for the Goldwater Institute, wrote, back in 2005 that when conservatives think of Hispanics, if at all, utilize immigration as a wedge and which alienates Hispanics against the Conservative Movement. Now, Bolick is far from being prescient, since this political behavior has been in existence, long before Clint was a dream in his father’s eye.
And in closing, Native Americans voted for Obama at a ratio of 90 percent; the same can be said of African Americans. As to us brown people, media outlets provided the ratio of 61% to 67% in 2008. We counted our ratio at 85%, but the media only recognizes our sundry behavior on either the front page of the paper for any criminality, and the same can be said for the electronic outlets, too. In November, I will not be surprised should our voting ratio will either meet or surpass this now standardized “ratio” of 90 percent. Of course, the national media outlets won’t report this story, as well. As such, the elites find this voting behavior as scary. To wit, the notional for a “second class” citizenship is unacceptable.
Jaango
Let’s all pay attention to whether or not gay people can get pre-divorced (while global warming ravages our planet)!
“So, should President Obama be concerned about black voters staying home on election day?”
I don’t know. Does President Obama imagine that his job is dependent on the votes of the mass of the citizenry?
Voting third party is perhaps the only reasonable thing for citizens to do in any state no matter what the color. Indeed, it should henceforth be referred to as the second party.
All Americans should be outraged at the attempt by “fascists” to suppress vote. Those not offended by fascist tactic will regret their silence and or ignorance of life and history.
The incidence of disenfranchisement, pre-voting rights legislation was warranted by, statistics and the flow of blood. This corporate sponsored voter suppression is fascism. Unwarranted unless you want to buy an election and law, as Jefferson feared via the undue influence of corporate money in the political process, protecting business models at life’s expense?????????????????????
I can go with all that you say.
LOL. Chillingly true.
I’ve been explaining the principle to my friends that, if they live in a solid-red or solid-blue state, they need not feel like spoilers by voting third-party. Voting third-party makes more of an impact than voting D or R. With enough repetition, they are starting to get it.
Aside from telling black folks that he’s not the President of Black people when no such question was asked; aside from depression era unemployment in the black community; aside from staggering foreclosures in the black community; aside from rising poverty and nonexistent black wealth; aside from mandating health insurance that poor blacks, if they can afford it will have high deductibles; and aside from him recently saying he’s mixed race when in ’08 he was black, does obama even care about the black vote?
http://colorlines.com/archives/2012/09/obama_talks_race_calls_himself_a_mixed_kid_from_hawaii.html
I’m amazed that Patrick Wooden isn’t embarrassed to talk about his sexual fantasies in public like that.
Please, it is not necessary to “vote for Jill Stein in protest.” Her vision and agenda, policies, etc. put to shame both the R’s and D’s. Vote for her because she’s the best choice.
“does obama even care about the black vote?”
Well, he’s told every other segment of his supposed political base to–a al Dick Cheney–go fuck themselves.
Yes it does Otto…..
Nazis did quite well in directing, distracting, playing Germans to vote against their self interest. So their is no doubt I will not be voting for the quintessential corporate aristocrat called Romney. Nothing in corporate fascist America, is in the long term interest of America. It is all done in the name of profit. Just like a substance abuser kills to get the fix, or lying rating analyst or media hosts omitting facts in a story, making a story an utter fabrication? Then America gets no collective recourse for corporate’s fascist lies enabled by the First Amendment! Then when America calls “Bullshit,” on bullshit, the clubs tear gas German Sheppard all appear to stifle the exercise of first Amendment’s protection of political speech and economic concerns? Fascism 2012 America?
Yup. Being a “spoiler” suggests that the Reps and the Dems are legitimate and represent the interests of the vast majority of the citizenry. What could be further from the truth? Voting Rep or Dem is what actually spoils the whole affair–to the degree that voting in the US is in any way democratic.
Folks with the power and money to provide the hundreds of millions of dollars required to buy a president have used the TV to beat the citizenry over the head with the false choice of having to eat either the Big Mac or the Whopper every four years. Tell them you will stay home and have steamed vegetables because you are not interested in an early grave for their profit.
He needs a butt plug for his mouth. Anyway, IMO Black Americans who boycott the election will do so for the same reasons as non-Black Americans. Plus they have more impetus to ignore screaming a-holes among the clergy than white Americans.
I am far more concerned about there being success in GOP efforts to suppress voting. Just as concerned as they are at any possibility of their being unsuccessful. They know that these fruitcake clerics won’t do it for them.
Fascism occurred in an era of expanding capitalism, whereas the authoritarianism of this era is of capitalism slowing down to its eventual halt. This is not an unimportant distinction. The fascists had constituencies: the petit-bourgeois liked Mussolini, and the Right in Germany liked Hitler. Authoritarianism in this era has no constituency except insofar as the corporations hope to milk government for a last round of profits before the whole system collapses. Thus authoritarianism in this era cannot expect the success that fascism once had.
Amen….Oh, I mean 10-4, right on, you got that right.
I stand corrected.
Excellent point.
Not being black I can only watch from the sidelines and speculate. But it would seem to me that religous blacks would also have issues with abortion. With white people, if they base voting on religion, abortion tops gays. Gays just give them something tangible to lash out at. And a good deal of the country has already had their anti-gay votes and there was already an opportunity to vote this up or down
I know religious people don’t like facts but someone should tell the hatemonegers that Obama’s actual position is that states should be allowed to deny marriage equality if they choose to, that is not the same as supporting marriage equality.
“Thus authoritarianism in this era cannot expect the success that fascism once had.”
Really? Sounds like a statement admitted into evidence based on speculation, not evidence or fact?
You are wrong. Fascism as a term did not exist at America’s founding, although the King used his Army in an authoritarian manner, to protect his corporate cohorts in colonial corporate crime business models?
In fact “corporate fascism” is America, when the first amendment is utilized to perpetuate lies in the name of profit, by corporations while Americans challenging those lies, get their heads caved in? You are wrong…..
King George crime syndicate == Hitler’s capitalist phoenix == Greedspan death spiral capitalism == Fascism?
Nowadays I’m assuming people so dead set against the likelihood of collapse have some investment they’re protecting.
I agree 100% – - – tis time for the Dems to understand that they have left the progressives on the side of the road and there is a price to pay for their choices. Vote third party!!!!
Yes. BTW, I agree with Bro Tom @12. I like Jill Stein’s platform in and of itself. It’s just that I sometimes have to talk with my R and D friends in terms of “not spoiling”.
Here’s a solution to the marriage question that plagues and distracts the citizens of the US. Since marriage is a primitive custom that was implemented to assure the passage of property, including the female involved, let’s outlaw marriage and substitute civil union contracts that last for a specified period of time and may be subject to renewal with mutual accord. If people still want to exchange vows in a religious institution that can be their choice but will have no bearing on the contract. This would, of course, remove the need for the divorce lawyer industry/parasites and negatively impact their cash flow as well as that of related marriage businesses, but it’s the 21st century and past time for “civilization” to mature.
The authoritarianism of the R’s and D’s is the source of the spoiling in terms of the welfare of the 99%.
o should be worried that many of his voters from 08 will stay home or vote for someone instead of the two choices supplied by the uniparty. There are too many reasons not to vote for o; I don’t have to recite them, you know what they are. From what I have read in your output, you are going to vote for him no matter what. That’s your right but I don’t think that o is in any way a friend of your policy desires, unless you are in the 1%.
Well yes he should be very worried. I had neighbors in 08 that had a huge party when obama won, they were black, and had a lot of friends over. I stopped by for a few minutes and everything was fun. Fast forward to now. They lost their massively underwater house. For the record we live in central CA- no seconds or fancy vacations, just complete loss of property value from so many fraudclosures around us. They fought the foreclosure for almost a year, finally gave up and moved. I helped them move and we all agreed how bad obama has been and how he talked a good talk but really only bailed out banks and has left the rest of us to fend for ourselves, despite numerous wall st bailouts, lawsuits and settlements for bank fraud. I was the only white guy in the room and every single black adult their nodded there heads yes and agreed. That was just one black family, but I’m sure many many more feel the same way. Any family black, white, yellow or red family who has had to deal with any aspect of a mortgage modification or forclosure, what we all learned is that bushs lies got us into a war, obamas lies left us with massively underwater homes, false hope, and toothless mod programs that to this day still don’t address negative equity. It really doesn’t matter who wins the election, they are beholden to their financial lobbyist only! We believe voting is a fools errand and wont be picking between the lessor to two evils anymore.
Black Agenda Report nailed Obama for the faker he is in 2008, and now they’re doing it again.
Add Cornell West to the list of effective evil doers. Despite all his talk about the failures of obama, he’s gonna turn around and vote for him cause he’s scared of romney.
You are right to include people in the democratic base.
Amen! Doug Stanhope’s question: “If marriage didn’t exist, would you invent it?”
“Authoritarianism in this era has no constituency except insofar as the corporations hope to milk government for a last round of profits before the whole system collapses.”
I suspect there are a lot more authoritarians in the US than just the corporations. Authoritarianism waned in the ’60s and ’70s but has come back like gangbusters in the last 30 years. I see a whole lot of scared, thoughtless people looking for “leaders.” And who has seen a cop or soldier look bad on TV since Reagan was President?
Umberto Eco on the subject of “Eternal Fascism”:
“In spite of some fuzziness regarding the difference between various historical forms of fascism, I think it is possible to outline a list of features that are typical of what I would like to call Ur-Fascism, or Eternal Fascism. These features cannot be organized into a system; many of them contradict each other, and are also typical of other kinds of despotism or fanaticism. But it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it . . .”
http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html
Fascist argument, however, is typically made by people who say “you are wrong” over and over again without offering anything of real substance. Goebbels: everything said three times is true.
The statement that fascism didn’t exist at America’s founding is of no consequence to my argument here. America was founded in an era in which industrial capitalism was just beginning, and in only one country, the UK. Italy and Germany between the World Wars were contender regimes in a much more industrialized world, desirous of some sort of catch-up strategy to industrialize in competition with other nation-states.
Please try to look at fascism as a form of government specific to a stage of overall capitalist development in the capitalist world system. When Hitler declared war on the whole of Europe, the idea was to drain Europe of its resources for his favored constituency, German “Aryans.” In this era, the elites (most specifically in banking and oil) hope to drain the world of what’s left of its resources merely to benefit themselves, and no broader constituency outside of rich people.
Where are these scared thoughtless people looking for leaders? I see a lot a scared thoughtless people looking at their television sets. If cops and soldiers look good on those sets, this implies an authoritarianism to be sure — but I don’t see how any of it transfers to charismatic leadership.
At most, when the propaganda machine painted boy Bush as America’s Hero in the wake of the disaster on September 11, 2001, Bush’s reminder to America was that it was to maintain its patriotic duty to continue shopping. Can you imagine Hitler telling the German people that it’s their duty as Aryans to go out and buy stuff?
Well, I see a lot of people deferring to leaders. Listen to the language that is used, by both Dems and Reps, regarding the presidential race, for example. And TV is most certainly the mouthpiece of authority. Charismatic leadership? The most essential ingredient for becoming President is to look good on TV.
I suspect that if post-WWI Germany was an empire that had switched from a manufacturing based economy to a financed based one and was a consumerist society as well–where the word “citizen” had been replaced by the word “consumer” as it has in the US–then I could easily imagine Hitler urging the Germans to go out and shop. Channeling all of one’s discretionary income upward through consumption is to the US of the last couple of generations what rationing was to WWII. It is sacrifice to the nation by other means.
You may be right in that Fascism in this era can’t expect the success that it has enjoyed in the past because of the seeming decline of Capitalism. But it sure as shit has a popular constituency. And not just in the US with the Tea Bagger types. Check the rise of Fascist political parties in Europe lately.
1) Most of the public doesn’t vote. Dems and Reps? Fanatics of shrinking cults.
2) It’s not just a seeming decline. The Nazis and Fascists marched around, busting heads and such, because there was an enthusiasm about building the new order. These days the new order is “austerity planning” and the world faces resource depletion and global warming. It’s not surprising that there’s rather little enthusiasm about such a new order.