This whole debate over taxing sodas as a means to address obesity is driving me nuts. I have no doubt that overconsumption of sugar-laden drinks has profoundly affected the skyrocketing obesity and diabetes problem in this country. Sodas are empty calories, and, quite frankly do they even quench your thirst with all that sugar in them? I say that because as an insulin-dependent diabetic (diagnosed decades ago, in my late teens; it’s on both sides of my family and neither of my parents were obese), I’ve not consumed a regular soda in so long I’ve forgotten what they taste like.
Do people really want to consume a 128 oz. Team Gulp as a meal, let alone with a meal? Look at this chart from the Mother Jones article, “Too Big to Chug: How Our Sodas Got So Huge.” These fast-food, convenience store chains must think so.
Writer Azeen Ghorayshi chronicles the timeline of the growth of these Gulps, and it’s pretty astonishing. In 1980 7-Eleven started selling the 32-ounce Big Gulp; I thought that was as super-sized as any drink could get. I guess I don’t get out much because I missed this launch of epic corporate gastronomic irony in 2011:
KFC introduces a drink so big that it has a bucket handle to carry it. In what can only be a cruel joke on humankind, for every Mega Jug purchased, KFC promises it will donate $1 to the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation.
…And that’s not even the worst of it. Franchises like 7-Eleven, Arco, and the unfortunately named Midwestern chain Kum & Go have all offered drinks upwards of 85 ounces. (To put this in perspective, this is around three times the capacity of a normal human stomach.)
What is wrong with consumers? I simply cannot understand why anyone would want to down that much sugar at a sitting. No wonder record numbers of us supersized and malnourished at the same time. It’s notable that in Japan, McDonald’s standard sizes for soda’s are much smaller (click over for that graph). So I understand the desire to tax people into healthier choices by adding soda to the list of “sin” items, but honestly, I don’t know if it will actually result in reduced consumption if people are this addicted to sugar.
In a companion piece, “Why Diet Soda Should Be Taxed, Too,” Sarah Zhang asserts that science points to sugar-free sodas being “gateways” to more caloric consumption and thus should be added to the sin pile.
Diet soda may be bad precisely because it has no sugar and fewer calories. When you eat something sweet, researchers have argued, your body comes to expect a caloric boost. Low or no calorie artificial sweeteners could screw up this link in the brain.
While the above may generally be true, I certainly don’t find myself craving refined sugar (knowing what it does to one’s blood glucose levels) or high-calorie food. It would be interesting to see if they included diabetics in this study, since obesity and type II diabetes go hand in hand in many cases. I’m a consumer of a garden variety of artificial sweeteners: saccharine, aspartame, Splenda, Stevia. Probably a couple of others. They all probably have some impact on my health long-term, it’s hard to say, but I know I don’t miss sugar’s additional empty calories when all carbohydrates affect one’s blood glucose.
The main point of the article, however, is to try to make the case that sugar substitutes contribute to the the War on Fat, even as corporate America — the sugar lobby vs. the artificial sweetener lobby — pummel each other to try to mitigate their products’ impact on American waistlines and protect their profits.
Advocates of recent soda regulation are a third voice who have have criticized the health effects of sugar and high fructose corn syrup alike. (The two are chemically very similar.) But lingering concerns about artificial sweeteners are why soda regulation advocates might want to be careful with how they make their case against sugar and HFCS. Advocates such as Dr. Robert Lustig have argued it was the war on fat that drove us to overconsumption of sweet. By a similar logic, vilify sugar or HFCS as poison and you run the risk of pushing people into artificial sweeteners as a “healthy” alternative.
Health concerns of artificial sweeteners do add a twist to the recent debate over sugar and high fructose corn syrup (HFCS). All the studies mentioned so far come from independent researchers, but the sugar lobby has tried to heap its own criticism on competitors. The Truth About Splenda, for example, is a Sugar Association website that prominently displays a study about Splenda altering bacteria in the stomachs of rats. This study was funded by the Sugar Association, a crucial fact whose only mention is buried in an outside news article reproduced on the website. (Or you could pony up $43 to read it in the paywalled journal article.) As least it refrains from repeating the claim that artificial sweeteners cause cancer, which has been fairly thoroughly debunked.
Many high fructose corn syrup manufacturers also make artificial sweeteners.The sugar industry’s criticism of Splenda is interesting given its feud with the corn industry that produces high fructose corn syrup. The two industries have historically been at odds, with HFCS having replaced sugar as the sweetener of choice in soda and pretty much everything else. Many of these corn companies make both high fructose corn syrup and artificial sweeteners. There is a practical reason for this link: Artificial sweeteners are up to hundreds of times sweeter than sugar, so the bulk of a Splenda or Sweet’N Low packet is actually dextrose or maltodextrin, food addictives derived from corn. Tate & Lyle, for example, manufactures Splenda along with a whole host of corn derivatives including corn syrup and dextrose—all of which compete with sugar.
Honestly, most foods or beverages in moderation aren’t going to kill you (well, unless you’re diabetic, don’t take your meds and ingest Big Gulps with abandon), but the question is why are Americans bellying up and ingesting food in such insane proportions? It seems that it’s a losing battle when it comes to solid foods as well. Americans have maxed out on super-sized meals, so the fast-food industry is trying to sell us on the Fourth Meal. WTF? From David Sirota’s “Big Food’s Latest Ploy to Get Richer While Making Americans Fatter” -
One predictable result of this trend is an obesity rate that’s poised to top 40 percent and that already costs the nation hundreds of billions of dollars in additional healthcare expenditures. The other result is that the super-size campaign has become a victim of its own success. Indeed, food companies are coming to realize that, in terms of per-meal product sales, they are quickly approaching the point where the human body simply cannot — or will not — accommodate any more calories in a single sitting. That has left Big Food fretting about a profit-making path forward, and that’s where the innovators at Yum! Brands come in.
Known for ignoring public health concerns and pioneering weapons-grade junk food, this conglomerate’s subsidiaries have most recently given us the cheeseburger-stuffed pizza (Pizza Hut), the Dorito-shelled taco (Taco Bell), and the “Double Down” (KFC) — a bacon and cheese sandwich that replaces bread with slabs of deep-fried chicken. So it should come as no surprise that with the three meals hitting their caloric max-out point, Yum! Brands has been leading the effort to add a whole new gorging session to America’s daily schedule.
The campaign is called “fourth meal” and was originally launched in a series of Taco Bell spots telling kids that “everyone is a fourth mealer — some just don’t know it yet.”





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Mostly I use the giant sodas for situations where I can’t leave after arrival: work, long drives, and the traditional habitat of the Bladder Buster, tabletop role-playing games. It’s nice to just have a drink handy and not have to go retrieve one every so often when you’re not going anywhere for hours.
Besides, most places only charge like an extra quarter for the ginormous cup. Getting anything smaller is like leaving money on the table!
Pry my zero-calorie Fresca from my cold dead hand!
Why does everything I like in life get labeled a Gateway? I suppose I should simply walk on through to my senescence spent in an opium den.
… surrounded by chocolate “shakes” and BigMacs.
I’d like to see the gigantic drinks in movie theaters replaced with smaller options so that big gulpers don’t interrupt the rest of the audience with the necessary bathroom run that results.
Amen!
Just fattening the calves a bit before they get sent off to the hi-fructose extraction plants.
Whoa, really? That’s nasty. If I ate something like that, I guess I actually would want a giant drink to wash it down.
Good thread, Pam.
As the evidence piles up that these sugar-bombs raise hell with your pancreas, and, your prostate, if you’re a man, not to mention their overall effect on your immune system, I would hope that people will simply stop drinking them, altogether.
But I’m not holding my breath.
Methinks there is a link between the cup’s increasing volume and the agricultural subsidies for sugar and corn: corporations being rewarded for over-producing and then creating an ever-increasing avenues for their product.
Sugar is addictive, it changes brain chemistry among other matters according to some research I read somewhere. Ditto fats.
IOW the Twinkie defense was spot on.
Back in the 1980s my brother and I joked that eventually there would be scuba packs that you would wear so that you could consume soda nonstop. I guess we were not very far from the truth.
I just moved to Chicago and was talking to a nurse about the city. She assured me that it was very difficult to eat normally in this town. She says that food is everywhere and it’s cheap. I just nodded my head; I changed my eating habits years ago, and couldn’t imagine how this would be a problem.
We spent a bunch of time with the move, and were forced to eat out several times because we were too tired to cook even our go-to-when-exhausted meals. We ate at the Golden Nugget, and I ordered pancakes. I couldn’t eat half. Another time I had the huevos rancheros, and the dish was served on 5 fried corn tacos, at 100 calories each. I didn’t notice until I had eaten the equivalent of two and a half, tasty but not the kind of thing I eat.
Last night we ordered a 10-inch pizza with sausage and olives, and a garden salad. We basically split the meal, and still couldn’t eat the whole pizza. I can’t imagine how two-worker families can keep things under control when they are tired and go out for supper or order out. It must be tiring to have to keep after the kids on this kind of food.
I’m going to find a gym and a yoga studio and add about a mile of walking a day just to give myself some chance of maintaining my weight. Thank heaven we are settled in so I can cook. Lamb-barley stew with kale and carrots simmering as we speak.
Pam I really agree with some of your points here. In many ways I see the merchants pushing the hi-cal direction. Used to be I could pick out individual items easily at McDonalds. Now everything is bundled 3000 calorie stuff.
That said, the fundemental issue here is most Americans don’t want the government dictating what used to be their free choice. In a free society we have to assume responsibility for the good and bad choices we make.
Bread & circuses. How to keep the plebes in line. Next stop gladiators vs. lions in stadiums.
And you all were wondering why govts paid for all those glorious stadiums
Lately I’ve been trying to order fruit juice or unsweetened tea but I’m staying away from the sodas.
I agree – Americans hate to be told what to do. These drinks and meals are obscene; any drink that needs a bucket handle is way too big. I don’t understand why people would buy this stuff but I don’t think they can be stopped and the companies selling it are not about to stop. $$$$$$$$
I drink maybe a dozen (12 oz) diet sodas/year, except for my summer cocktail of Campari & tonic. Really don’t like the shit, but in the mood for a fizzy every once in awhile.
I usually consume a 16-20oz a day. The little bit of caffeine actually seems to keep my migraines at bay. I do agree the 200 calories could nutritionally be better spent though.
Dr. Pepper, Pepsi and ginger ale, and maybe others, now come in small 8 oz. cans. Perfect size and no waste.
The theaters said that they tried to offer healthier fare and movie goers rejected it. I guess no one wants to nibble apple slices while watching a movie.
Tea has a lot of caffeine. Less than coffee but still plenty. Try it & see if it works on your migraines.
Both of the large companies also offer 12 oz bottles. Those come in at 150 calories and have the benefit of a twist top if you don’t want to finish it right away.
Tea also has tannic acid. Sadly, I have had problems with growing a zen rock garden in my kidneys. I have to be careful with sodium too.
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I’m not into any of these drinks, so I’ll stop trying to suggest things that I know little about.
I drink water & raw milk & sometimes fruit juice. Works for me.
Well, I won’t mention my liquor consumption…
Tea for most people is fairly healthy. It’s just the tannic acid is problematic for folks with oxalate stones. I’m not super sure that the chemicals in soda are that great either although theurologist seemed fine with my consuming it.
I’m betting that liquor consumption has gone up in the last decade.
Lord only knows the last two administrations have made me want to drink myself into a coma.
Water is mainly what I drink though. Every once in a while I’ll throw a lemonade or cranberry juice in there to be kind to my urinary tract(you don’t know fun until you’ve had a stent put in to keep your kidney working while waiting for the VA to schedule lithotripsy. I remind myself that I felt like I got run over by a mack truck every time I consider not consuming 64 oz of fluid.)
When you make me pay for others’ health care then I become acutely interested in the choices they make.
Does green tea have less tanic acid? I hear it’s reasonably healthy.
Tastes like urine to me though.
When I make iced tea I throw in a bunch of different types, like reg tea, Early Gray, green tea, mint tea. Makes for a nice combo when the weather’s really hot. You could eliminate the tannic acid ones and bulk up on the other flavors.
So what are you saying?
About 15-20 years ago, I flew to Ft. Worth to see their new modern art museum. My Houston friend drove over, and after 2 days in Ft Worth (Cow Girl Museum a MUST visit) we drove to Houston. On the way, she wanted to stop at a Wal-Mart to buy some appliance (battery op tooth brush?). It was around noon on a weekday. There wasn’t a woman in that store whose hips would not be large enough to serve as a dining table for 12 people.
My favorite thirst quencher is a big gulp of unsweetened iced tea. I’m sure it’s loaded with crap, but at least no sugar and beats down a thirst far better than soda.
Make your own iced tea. It’s easy peasy, just need to plan a little in advance, and tastes a lot better than anything manufactured. You know what’s in it. Keeps forever in the fridge. You can always pick up a cup of ice anywhere, so if you have some warm tea in a container on a hot day, stop by the 7-11, get a cup of ice, and enjoy a good beverage.
I lead a protected life I guess. I’ve never even seen a bladderbuster, much less drunk one . I imagine the equivalent in my consumption bundle would be a magnum or a jereboam, but I’m not about to down that much wine at a single siting. I remember last year when we were hiking in the soguthern Appalachianns and I saw a women come out of a convenience store with that crao for her kids. I was about to tell her she was poisoning them and herself when it occurred to me she might be armed. Land of the free.
I gave up soda, did nothing else to speak of and lost 20 pounds in six months
I worked in a convenience store, and at one point we had 128oz insulated cups- came with a built in straw and a shoulder strap. We sold very few, but one guy came in daily and filled his up with soda. He worked construction, and the drink lasted him a full shift, with some water breaks (not to mention it was half ice). Personally, the biggest drink I’ve bought was a 64 ounce. I was horribly dehydrated. It now is the official coffee pot filling cup-perfect size. My favorite coffee mug was 32 oz, it broke so I’m using a 20, but my consumption is just topping it off throughout the day until bed. I seldom finish the “medium” drink I get at fast food joints.
For tasty Green Tea, find some Pu-er tea. Some of the roasted/cooked varieties are a great substitute for coffee and doesn’t taste like urine. Numi Organic puer tea is available in grocery stores-the chocolate is wonderful, and does sub for coffee quite well. I drink my coffee and tea straight without sugar 90% of the time – tea with honey when I’m sick, cafe’ mocha or Turkish as a dessert, so I don’t do much soda.
If you crave bubbles and don’t want sugar/corn sugar/artificial sweeteners, try seltzer with a twist of lemon or lime, or you can get flavored if you check and make certain they don’t have nutrayuck in them. LeCroix has some good flavors and seltzer quenches thirst far better than sweetened sodas. And the bonus of no caffeine or artificial colors. I like plain seltzer myself.
Just as an aside, the KFC Double Down was AWESOME. As for how “unhealthy” it was, two chicken breast patties-skinless, one slice of cheese , and a couple small slices of bacon. Not much more fat or calories than eating a couple pieces of regular fried chicken, a biscuit, and a side of french fries or mac & cheese. Yet the diet nazis were out yelling about heart attack city, and how disgusting it was. Hmmm, breaded chicken breast+cheese+smoked pork= chicken cordon bleu. Anyway, it was yummy, and I might need to fix my own, since they are off the menu now.
100% of American grown cane sugar is now from GMO seed, beet sugar is working on it too. Sugar production in America is subsidized by all of us so we pay farmers to grow it, we pay artificially high prices for it and needless to say, we pay the medical costs associated with sugar induced obesity.
Sugar industry lobbyists play both sides of the street quite successfully.