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During a recent Leadership Triangle forum regarding Amendment One (which would wreak havoc in North Carolina for unmarried couples and domestic violence laws if passed) blogger Pam Spaulding had a very interesting conversation with one of the leading supporters of this amendment, Pastor Patrick Wooden.
Pastor Wooden of Upper Room Church of God in Christ in Raleigh, NC has been very vocal in his support of the amendment. In past interviews, he claimed that gays engage in so much anal sex that they have to wear diapers and also they use instruments such as cell phones as sexual aids:
. . I know of a case where in a hospital a homosexual male had a cellphone lodged in his anus and as they were operating on him the phone went off, the phone started ringing!
After the forum, Pam questioned Wooden directly on his spurious claims regarding gays and sex, particularly the cell phone claim. The following is what she said took place:
Wooden’s defense is that he was asked to go on the program and he told “an anecdote.” I reminded him that he had no data or evidence to support this claim, and that this is only supporting the notion that he thinks being gay is all about sex, and that heterosexuals engage in all sorts of sexual behaviors that don’t have any impact on their civil rights. All he could say was that he has to talk about it in these terms because, by definition, “homosexuals as a group are defined by who they sleep with” and by extension, since his religious view is that homosexuality is a sin, this is what drives him to speak out.
So basically Wooden did not supply any evidence of his claim because there was none. Wooden admitted that the only reason he made the claim was to create an image of the gay community which is conducive to his religious beliefs that gays are immoral sinners.
In other words, Wooden lied. Deliberately and unashamedly.
Wooden was not interested in giving logical reasons why Amendment One should be passed. In fact, Wooden has never been interested in defending Amendment One through logic at all. He has only been interested in pushing Amendment One through any means, even if it meant demonizing the gay community through fear tactics and ugly stories of sex, diapers, and cell phones. And why did he do this? Because his religious beliefs dictated that homosexuality is a sin.
Where in the Bible does it say that Christians should lie in accordance to their beliefs?
Seems to me that if a truly Christian man feels that the position he takes on an issue is correct, he should not have to stoop to lies in order to defend it.
Wooden’s admittance calls into question not only his integrity, but also his character.
Gays and lesbians partaking in the sacred institution of marriage in no way damages it. We merely want protection for our loved ones and the right to love without fear.
What’s so immoral about that?
However, if anyone fears a danger of marriage being corrupted, they would be best served to look in Pastor Wooden’s direction and remember his shameless ability to deceive without a shred of impunity.
Marriage is about love, support, and truthfulness. Pastor Wooden is nothing but lies.
To call on him to “protect marriage” is like asking a thief to guard Fort Knox.
The grand irony is that Wooden, according to Pam, said that the pastors who were against Amendment One didn’t know how to read their Bibles. Wooden also had some ugly words to say about Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II of the NC NAACP who has been a vocal opponent of Amendment One:
He (Wooden) spoke dismissively onstage about other religious leaders who oppose Amendment One, and when I asked him about the NC NAACP’s Rev. Barber’s Open Letter to North Carolinians and very forceful advocacy against A1, he said that Rev. Dr. Barber is a demagogue (that’s a quote), and is not telling the truth about the harms of the amendment.
So Wooden seems to think that Rev. Barber is a demagogue huh? Well let’s just put that one to a visual test:
I’m sure the Rev. Barber and the other pastors who oppose Amendment One know the Bible just as well as Wooden.
Particularly the verse about bearing false witness.
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Yep, another one who thinks that the SOP manual for his religion doesn’t apply to him. He’s special. The scary thing about his lies is that he knew that he was making stuff up but a lot of his followers probably believed him and even if they are repeatedly told that he made this all up they probably will go on believing what he said. Once stuff like this takes root with dummies they tend to get angry if you try to tell them that the person who lied admitted to lying, the antivax movement is another example of that.
Make a nice commercial—”Bringers of truth?” If some one were to fund it, his career would be ruined.
Comperable to the myths surrounding other items supposedly up gay men’s rear ends: gerbils, light bulbs, ad nauseum.
I agree with you 1000% that the religious reich/Christian Taliban are deluded into thinking they’re somehow superior to everyone else.
Their pulpit masters have them believing that their faith and their piety is *so* superior to everyone else’s, they’re exempt from the biblical laws, even though they demand everyone else does!
The anti-choice fanatics are a clear example! The Commandment states “Thou shall not murder”, yet these twisted degenerates, hopped up on rhetoric and hate, believe it’s perfectly fine to murder doctors and clinic workers because it so “save the babies”.
Standard I’m not a lawyer caveat applies here, but it seems to me that the anti-gay marriage forces are slipping more and more to religion to advocate their position as they have no other legitimate reason for such discrimination. And in doing so, they are opening up the opportunity of Equality supporters to challenge such laws and state constitutional amendments on a federal level by citing religious animus in violation of the US Constitution’s 1st Amendment guarantee of religious freedom. Was this not why NOM advocated using junk science instead of religious arguments to support their anti-gay agenda?
“The anti-choice fanatics are a clear example! The Commandment states “Thou shall not murder”, yet these twisted degenerates, hopped up on rhetoric and hate, believe it’s perfectly fine to murder doctors and clinic workers because it so “save the babies”.”
They have a direct line to their “god” who has told them to forget what his only begotten son said and has given them special dispensation to be his judge, jury, and executioner on Earth. Real Christians really should stand up and take back the good name of Jesus Christ that has been usurped by these charlatan cultist.
“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.” Not merely Scripture, but a Commandment.
Nor do I recall an Eleventh Commandment regarding sodomites and cellphones.
(In case Wooden wants to find a loophole? In the parable of the Good Samaritan, Christ teaches a disciple: all people are neighbors, not merely those we hold most dear. Yes, even members of tribes who’ve traditionally been hated. All deserve mercy and kindness.)