Exactly how many times can a woman have sex using birth control to prevent pregnancy before she’s a “slut”? I really would like to know after reading this latest defense by Dana Loesch of Rush Limbaugh’s “slut shaming” of 30 year-old woman Sandra Fluke. Fluke testified before Congress that 1) she chooses to use birth control, 2) has sex and doesn’t want a baby now, and 3) noted the expense of birth control can be out of the reach of many women. The new spin:
This reason right here is why Republicans defeat themselves: It doesn’t matter what Barack Obama’s record is if Republicans so willingly allow the media to reframe a debate about religious liberty as a fight over women’s rights.
More have admonished Limbaugh’s description of Sandra Fluke than admonished a 30 year-old woman embarrassing herself before congress by testifying that she simply cannot stop getting it on and her inability to control her urges constitutes infringing upon everyone else for a bailout.
…The real war on women is being perpetuated upon us by our own sex; women who seek to place us under the control of a pimp-daddy government by demanding it cover all our needs, in exchange for control, or force private entities to do so in its stead.
It’s a left-wing media conspiracy to make the womb-controlling GOP look like jackasses. The ”slut shaming” story is now “manufactured” by the left wing. This is all they have left.
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It’s pretty clear that most of the men (and some women, like Loesch), conveniently leave the men who have sex with women on the Pill are somehow absent from the equation. I cannot fathom this level of denial that the male partner copulating with the woman has no, ahem, skin in the game. Is every P-I-V encounter meant to create a baby from the man’s perspective? Does he not benefit from sex free of procreative consequences?
Never mind the complete disconnect that Viagra, which has long been covered by insurance/the state as a legitimate medical expense, is designed solely to result in sexual performance. Birth control pills, on the other hand, have multiple uses involving hormonal regulation. Are these folks completely unaware of how a woman’s body works?
The complexity of woman’s body — to produce a child — is quite miraculous, but it’s also (admit it, gals), often dysfunctional. Fibroid tumors, polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS), endometriosis, and a host of conditions that screw with your menstrual cycle or cause horrendous pain, are pretty common. The plumbing just doesn’t always work correctly, and sometimes, birth control pills are part of appropriate medical treatment that has nothing to do with family planning.
Take me, for instance, I’m a lesbian, therefore sex with men isn’t in the picture, but I do have PCOS — roughly 10% of women have this condition, many of them have a lot of difficulty becoming pregnant when they want to, by the way. So this horrific, misogynistic debate about public access to the Pill is disgusting. I needed it to regulate my cycle, not as birth control.
But the bottom line for these people bleating that they don’t want to “fund Fluke’s sex life” is that they cannot address the man’s part of the equation because their arguments fall apart.
I had an exchange on Twitter with some fool who objects to birth control pills being covered for het women who are sexually active. When I mention the man having sex with her benefits from sex free of procreative consequences, he objected to society covering the man having sex as well! Well, that’s refreshing transparency. I haven’t gotten a response to my reply:
@barrycunningham Viagra’s always been covered, as have ED devices, and many other “quality of life” matters. Who draws the line?
I feel sorry for anyone this blind and critical thinking-deficient. I usually blow them off. This one guy presented some hilarious bad logic to support his position. I couldn’t resist.
But seriously, the problem for these people is that for many of them, they follow Rick Santorum’s unhealthy fixation on other people’s sex lives and its place in society in 2012. Apparently only straight women and gay folks are the only people having sex, and it’s not with straight conservative men, who exist in their own, strange universe where Viagra is an entitlement, or they are locked in sexless or mandatory procreative relationships and have their faces pressed on the window glass, hating that someone else might be getting it on.
Of course it goes back to my first question — how much non-procreative sex is “too much” sex for these people before a woman is deemed a slut? I don’t think even think they know the answer to this question (but they know it when they [don't] see it). Rick Santorum leads the way, as Charles Blow points out so well in his piece for the WaPo NYT, Santorum and the Sexual Revolution: Rick Santorum wants to bring sexy back … to the 1950s, when he was born.
Santorum may now cloak his current views in Catholic fundamentalism and Constitutional literalism, but, at their root, they are his reaction to, and revulsion for, the social-sexual liberation that began in the 1960s.
…Santorum’s stances are not about our Constitution, but his. He views personal freedoms as a personal affront. His thinking exists in a pre-1960s era of aspirin-between-the-knees contraception and read-between-the-lines sexuality.
The kind of conservatism that Santorum represents has been described as a war on women, but I would rephrase that. It’s a war on sex beyond the confines of traditional marriage and strict heterosexuality in which women, particularly poor ones, and gays, particularly open ones, are likely to suffer the greatest casualties.
It’s not about the funding of birth control — it’s a disdain that there is sex occurring outside of the procreative experience, and science, medicine and society has already decided that its occurrence is a “quality of life” issue — thus coverage for Viagra and Vacuum Erection Therapy Devices exists. For these folks the issue has only been that these dirty, slutty women aren’t entitled to have sex without making a baby. They just shouldn’t have sex that involves subsidized birth control. Well, if that’s the case, then Viagra and penis pumps need to be on the chopping block as well — for the sake of religious freedom, right?
This is absurd. If there’s anything manufactured going on, it’s the conservative batsh*t GOP trying to take the eye off of the obvious ball — they have no jobs plan details, no workable alternative to “Obamacare”, no apparent need for diplomacy abroad, no realistic energy plan, the list goes on and on. Instead they’d rather be up a woman’s vagina, screaming about what’s going in, where, and how, with the penis out of equation.






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Can we just start calling Dana Loesch ‘Serena Joy’ now?
They are fundamentalist Christians. Of course they never learned critical thinking
This is more of the old fight…menstrual care products, for example, are paper products and taxed as such. In my teens, I thought it was the prudishness of male elected representatives. But it was then and is today, just another expression of the financial burdens of women, another subjugation, that Elizabeth Warren talks about.
We’ve known for years that Limbaugh is a liar, a hypocrite, and a bully. Now we can add “dirty old man” to the list. It strikes me as creepy that a 61-year-old man would ask a woman half her age to send him a sex tape.
This is not about the wingers objection to women on birth control having sex. Rush and his ilk are outraged because they feel they payed (for the pill) but the sluts never put out for them. Hence, the commment about wanting them to at least post pictures. Its not personal. Strictly business.
Blow writes for the NYT, not WaPoo.
This diary is inaccurate regarding Fluke’s testimony.
She did NOT testify that she uses birth control, or that she has sex.
Rather, she testified that she has friends who needed birth control for medical reasons (such as controlling ovarian cysts because of ovarian cancer) and they couldn’t afford the medication and it hurt them.
While it would have been vile for the republicans to attack her even if she HAD testified about wanted birth control for sex, it’s all the worse because they are calling her a slut for just testifying that her friends need it for medical reasons.
Please fix the diary, though. There’s a lot of misinformation going around regarding her testimony.
Our youngest daughter was given a sub-cutaneous contraceptive implant at 15 to control her endometreosis, but only after she had an operation to remove seven cysts from one ovary that caused immense pain during her periods. She would be balled up and vomiting. The doctor said the best cure for the endometreosis was to get pregnant. Well THAT wasn’t going to happen.
The bottom line it is morbid Republican/Taliban/Conservatism forcing their extreme fanatical will on us which is destroying our culture and our lives. It is NOT Government or our sex habits.
These sleazy panty-sniffing men don’t care how a woman’s body works as long as it works for THEM. Who exactly is it that they think women, whom they call sluts, are having sex with – MEN, of course. Santorum gives me the creeps. He is no better than some guy peeking in windows to watch other people. He probably wears his sweater vest during sex – which he only has once a year to create another little Santorum.
While it would have been vile for the republicans to attack her even if she HAD testified about wanted birth control for sex, it’s all the worse because they are calling her a slut for just testifying that her friends need it for medical reasons.
Limbaugh misrepresented Ms. Fluke’s testimony for the purpose of her personal destruction. This ought to be his Army-McCarthy Hearings moment.
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I’ve posted a copy of my own message to advertisers at:
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oops! Sorry about the link-y thing. [See my diary.]
Dear Dana, if you’re reading this, I, too, have the problem of excessively getting it on. In fact, most males suffer from this horrible affliction,or, at the least, thinking about it. Not to mention, quite a few females. My gratitude to you is boundless for bringing this debilitating and chronic disease to the attention of the public. You have no idea of the depth of my shame, when I spend my waking hours planning and fantasizing about getting it on, when I could be marching with my fellow Christians while carrying signs saying, as Jesus’s General proclaimed:
“Fuck those Afghan kids. Save the blastocysts!”
I go now to guilt counseling.
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I am 63, male, white……here is something i have learned, long before this latest sickness from these little boys:
It is all about wanting to do it to women, these boys cannot stand the thought of a woman having pleasant sex, heaven forbid including orgasm………with anyone else but them…….period……i may not have worded this well, but my insight into this cannot be mine alone, it shows in so many ways. It really shows if you listen to men in a locker room for example. This kind of view is widespread among young men, hence these little boys spewing……..
Liberals have no one to blame for this brou-ha-ha but themselves. What was a religious freedom argument has transmorgrified into a sexual rights free for all along with victimization galore.
This isn’t about sex,
this isn’t about contraceptives.
This is about who pays for what, and quite frankly I’m on board with making men pay for their own Viagra and other paraphernalia. Want to know why healthcare is so expensive? Here’s exhibit A.
It’s such a piss-off that these lunatics are coming out of the woodwork like cockroaches.
I INSIST:
if Barack Obama had walked into the Oval Office kicking ass and taking names, for what the republicans and their house loons have done to us, then he could have driven them back under the troll bridge and they would have been where they belong: on the crazed fringe of any political discussion on any issue, instead of presenting themselves, with the help of the MSM, as just the loyal opposition, getting a fair hearing.
They. Filled. The. Vacuum…He gave them.
shooter, i am sick of your fucking ass dude……you are one dumbass fuck…who is paying your health care premium………well who? and it is damn nice of you to pay someone else’s thanks….oh? what/ you don’t pay someone else’s premiums? if it is not about sex, why the use of the words slut, prostitute etc….fuck you dipshit your logic is warped…..by your logic women are to blame if they are raped…..oh right…i have heard that before somewhere…..
thank you.
All your vaginas are belong to us.
no sweat, and i do not speak these words only in anonymity online….i speak them in person too i urge all other males who love the women in their lives to do the same…fuck these assholes and the horse they rode in on……(this is a colorado saying that means the argument and position they used to reach their current location is bullshit…….)
now, could someone please correct me? i mean that but i’m thinking i’m missing something. as i understood her testimony – and i read the transcript– she was talking about insurance coverage & the hhs reg that would require health ins. policies to cover contraception-i believe w/o co-pays. she said nothing-i think-about government doing jack shit other than adopting that reg. not paying one dime for her birth control or anyone else’s. and the comment above is correct. she was talking about use of contraceptives by women at g’town and not necessarily her own and gave a couple accounts of women who couldn’t/ didn’t get meds they needed b/c contraceptives were not included in health ins. policies.
now, did she say anything about gov’t covering the cost? i think not and think these right wing people are just full of shit. and why shouldn’t they say this? they know the media by and large will repeat it.
i somtimes -too often-do and gave them up for Lent. seriously. that’s why having you do it was greatly appreciate it
What an ignorant asshole, shooting nothing but bullshit.
It is, always has, and forever will be about women’s bodies because that’s the only time this “religious freedom” issue ever comes up. You never hear about the religious freedom to be free of paying for wars that go against your morals. Nope. Never heard a word about paying for Viagra and every other limp dick med out there because it upset their sensabilities. Nope.
Only when it’s a woman’s body. That’s it. Only time.
And you and they try and use the “religious freedom” meme as a cover, but unlucky for you and they too many people still have functioning brains and can see the truth through the bullshit you keep shooting out.
Go crawl back in the middle ages where you belong, asshole.
Sorry for commenting, but this one was just too much. Back to lurking.
We old dudes are tempted to look down our noses at younger men and boys, younger men look down there noses at middle aged men and old men. Men of different colors look down on old white men. I think we men of whatever age might better just look in the mirror. Face it, possession of the y chromosome while valuable in many respects has some aspects that really require a certain amount of mirror work. Scapegoating just gives a feeling, it doesn’t do anything.
Pure insanity. Rush imagines himself a Saudi princeling. What can make any woman actually defend such slavemaster-wannabeism is simply beyond fathoming.
Of which he forced himself to take no pleasure in. I don’t imagine that was much fun for his wife either. Such a great little non-intimate completely Platonic and clean of any joy Christian marriage. The Pope must be proud.
Shooter, you complete asshole:
The UK treats its WHOLE population, Cradle to Grave for 8%, that e-i-g-h-t percent of its GDP. The US is approaching 18% That’s e-i-g-h-t-e-e-n percent.
10% is not attributable to a few pills. It is systemic.
Why:
1. Medical Education was free for those who qualified, before Blair.
2. No crushing debt, few went into medicine to get rich, because few became rich. Greed in not a feature on the entrance requirement nor the curriculum of medical schools in the UK.
3. No Hospital companies extracting profits.
4. Drugs sold to the Nation Health Service under contract.
5. No insurance company overhead passed onto the consumer.
6. Better infant mortality number that the US.
7. Better longevity than the US.
8. Wait time for all much better than the wait time in the US for those with no “insurance”.
9. No Medical Bankruptcies. None. Zero. 0.
Shooter, you are shooting blanks. Probably have ED too, and need buckets of prescription Viagra, as does Limpburgh.
Who’s paying you Shooter?
fuck you what the fuck are you talking about here…….do not assume to put words in my mouth, i did not “scapegoat” anyone….look up that word would you…….i told you what i have observed….to say it does nothing to speak up to bullies is bullshit heaven…..i speak up…….you do as you please except put words in my mouth do not do that……..
“Judge not lest you yourself be judged”.
Isn’t that in the Bible somehwere? Must have been left out of the ones the GOP and their “Christian” followers carry around.
And thank you, all non-Cro-Mag men. I look forward to you being beside us when the tsunami of our pushback buries these fucking freaks forever.
IN essence shooter and rush are not just hateful of women, it is about hating poor people too, perhaps more. What made Sandra Fluke a slut in Limbaughs mind was not that she used birth control but that she doesn’t have a half billion in the bank like him. poor=slut All his wives use it because he can pay for it himself along with his hillbilly heroine. The psychological study of the dementedness of Rush and shooter is for someone else if this is really about hating poor people more or women more. I don’t have the ability to crack that code. But in essence the law enables those financially struggling to acquire birth control, and I’m just not sure if that hatred overwhelms the woman hatred. It is hard to categorize the amount of hate, but I do think the hatred of the poor plays a large part in this.
Right on. But, hey, give credit where due: it ain’t easy to be so consistent. Most of us can say such asshole things only sporadically.
What annoyed me mostly was your using ‘little boys’ as an insult. Little boys do not deserve that. (And we wonder why young males sometimes diss us oldies)
I’m beginning to believe that we all exist in an Onion article.
Srsly. My jaw is just permanently on the floor anymore.
interesting……….”little boys” is an insult when directed toward grown men…….. it indicates that said grown men are displaying intelligence and emotions that are present in littler boys.i used it for that purpose, if you choose to place a prurient connotation upon it……that is your baggage sir…….i stand by my words good day
The Rs never have any solutions to the real problems so every 4 years it’s Gays, Guns, God, and women. I think there’s a good chance they have gone too far this time. Look at what angry women did to Komen.
This is Obama’s fault? Ridiculous.
Post of the month.
Norman Mailer’s campaign slogan: “No more bullshit!”
Especially, about the obscene amounts of money that are made off of sickness and ageing in amurka.
“ridiculous”
Only if you’re a shill for Obama.
Which, you most definitely are.
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The older I get (now almost 60), the more disgusted I get at conservatives’ attitudes and ideas about religion, sexuality, civil rights, individual rights and responsibilities, and the role of government to maintain a productive, healthy, free and just society.
The likes of Limbaugh and Santorum and many other GOP politicos exemplify the extremist loathing and uptight (that’s a word I haven’t used in a long time) sensibilities toward women, minorities, and gays that pervades the GOP. I often wonder how so many Americans could be so ignorant as to continue listening to their bile and voting them into office.
Politically and socially, the pendulum is overdue to swing back toward sanity. We can only hope that humane and egalitarian policies will follow.
No, shooter242, you people created a religious liberty argument out of whole cloth.
There isn’t a law requiring employers to provide health insurance. If some religion wants to avoid paying for birth control or viagra or blood transfusions, they can just refuse to pay for any health insurance.
I’m just sure your magic free market will solve that problem for them.
fuckin a
There is a nice list of groups we no longer use as invidious comparison in polite company, you know who they are. I think we are heading in the direction that the very young ( who incidently have no lobby of their own) of both sexes will be added to that list. Good for all of us, i think.
standing with you!
let me get this straight.
you are annoyed because i referred to immature grown men, as little boys?
i do not find being a little boy an insult, unless you are a grown man.
perhaps there are some self help sites, where you could discuss this non issue ad infinitum best wishes
oldgold, sorry but I see tanbark’s point. Obama could simply SPEAK SIMPLE TRUTH and demolish this fucking nonsense and these freaks forever – or at LEAST put them on the GD defensive. Instead he invites them into a “dialogue”- over and over. Leaves the door open for people like the Catholic Bishops to get their toe in. (Catholic Bishops, ffs! The very face of unrepentant child rape and eternal vadge fear/hate! Treated with fucking RESPECT! Gah!!!!)
me too…..add to your list the fucking inquisition..burn women alive? ahhhh enough fuck em
The point that gets missed is that the problem Rush is exploiting isn’t that someone is a slut (BC costs the same whether she has sex with 8 guys every day or just one time a month). It’s that she’s too poor to afford the medicine prescribed by her doctor. As long as Rush can make this about someone’s sexual behavior, the point that Republicans think there is an income level required to be able to have sex goes unaddressed. Republicans think that if you can’t afford your prescribed medicine, you should avoid PIV sex. I’m sure they see it as electoral gold.
“I’m sure they see it as electoral gold.”
I hope they do. Campaigning against recreational sex, is a sure-fired winner.
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Rush, Frothy and their ilk appear to have forgotten a little thing called the 19th Amendment. We will see how that works out for them.
I am not a shill for Obama.
I am liberal Democrat, who despite some misgivings about Obama’s
Presidency to date, will be voting for him this fall.
I have no problem with principled criticism of Obama from the Left. I have engaged in it by strongly criticizing his policy in Afghanistan and repeatedly calling for Geithner’s firing. What you constantly do here, like your attempting to blame Obama for Limbaugh’s conduct, is something quite different.
I would be interested in what the FDL community thinks of Rocky Anderson’s third party candidacy. I think he needs to promise not to pull a Nader in the close states.
Miserepubilkan A$$ $0UL$!
I’m quoting what Loesch said, not that it’s a statement of fact. It’s the continual spin of the RW noise machine.
You have pimped for him since you’ve been on here.
If he had simply gone to the mat with the republicans, he could have redefined the post-2008 political culture. Instead, he caved: on a public option; he caved on the Dorgan amendment which would have allowed for cheap generic drugs to be imported–again–into the U.S.
And most shameful of all, to me, he caved on the move by some House democrats, when we still HAD the House, which would have stripped the health insurance robber barons of their immunity from antitrust laws.
At this point, the list of his capitulation to the assholes is too long and too well known to even argue about it.
When his numbers were tanking, you practically disappeared. Now that he’s getting a little goat-rodeo surge, you’re back. With any luck, you’ll be disappearing again, in about three months.
I agree…I said the same thing in 31.
That’s exactly what I mean.
He could have beaten the republicans senseless and instead he did rehab on the assholes.
Let’s shoot this down right now: he didn’t NEED the great “veto-proof majority”; that’s just ass-covering for him, to try to peddle that. All he had to do was stand up to them. Run a good public option bill up to the hill, and if the repubs filibustered it, then keep running it up there, while reminding the american people that he was trying to do what he said he would. They would have folded in a matter of days, and he would have been Captain America…and all of the peckerheads and neo-fascists would have been relegated to that status of the crackpots that they are.
More; we could even have strengthened our hold on congress in the mid-terms.
But he “reached out” to them and they cut off his hand and scratched his ass with it.
AND, we got the living shit kicked out of us in the mid-terms.
The only thing making him look good now is the fact that the republicans look like a Venusian fire drill of gaffe-prone greedheads and fanatical bible-zombies. If he thinks he can ride that pony to another four years of “bipartisan” crap, then I think he’s in for a rude political awakening, this summer.
Now, he’s pitching himself as a real “reformer”, whose good instincts are being thwarted by the big, bad, republicans whom, for the past three years, he’s nurtured back into political relevance and congressional dominance.
Ted Rall nails it: http://news.yahoo.com/comics/ted-rall-slideshow/
Woops. Sorry for the double…
Book Salon up with Andrew Bacevich’s The Short American Century: A Postmortem hosted by Robert Farley
My guess? He’s bored with wife number 4 already and needs a marital sex aid. Speaking of wife number 4, what do you figure the odds are that Rush’s wife came to the marriage a virgin? I wonder if he considers HER a slut for having sex.
Tanbark — First, Even *if* Obama pulled a Harry Truman/LBJ-type agenda, he *still* needed 60 votes in the Senate, which he didn’t get all the time.
Partly due to the fact he was only in the Senate for two years before running for the top spot in ’08. Truman, JFK, and LBJ all spent *years* in the the House and/or the Senate, so they *knew* whose arm to twist and how much, and who had what secret to reveal to keep the recalcitrant ones in line.
I think it’s also why Jimmy Carter had so many problems — too many entrenched politicians who resented the “outsider” trying to tell them how to run things.
Hopefully the people will *give* Obama 60+ Democratic votes in the Senate and restore the Dems in the House (though I do NOT want Nancy Pelosi as Speaker! Marcy Kaptur or a *real* progressive would be a much better choice!
They are woefully deficient in critical thinking skills and the sky is blue, the Pope is Catholic, and bears relieve themselves in the woods.
The funniest thing about ol’ Rush is that he went to the Dominican Republic with someone else’s (at least we didn’t have to pay for it for him directly) Viagra and *she’s* the slut? He may want to look in the magic mirror if he wants to know who is the sluttiest one of all.
From my local paper’s letters page:
Obviously, JJJ thinks he’s doing women a favor. I doubt that anyone gets back to him to complain of being manipulated as hey, it’s ultimately their decision to keep the baby they can’t afford.
I do not pimp for anyone. Moreover, I was commenting here long before Obama began running for President and prior to you arrival.
My commenting frequency has remained relatively constant over time. If for short periods I have commented less frequently, it is solely a function of my very heavy workload.
Is it your position that the site would be better if I disappeared?
“I do not pimp for anyone.”
I’ll stick with “pimp”. Time and again, you’ve defended him, as he continued to sell us out.
You brag about criticizing his policy in Afghanistan and calling for Geithner to resign.
I say: Whoop-de-doo!
If those are your yardsticks for not being an Obama shill, I gotta tell you; you left out a BUNCH of things that he badly needs to be pressured on.
In this little debate, all I need to do is point out that you had nothing to say anywhere else on this thread, about the issue that so many of us are angry about. The only thing that brought you out of the woodwork was when I said that Obama bears responsibility for letting the republicans define the political culture we now have, in which the rightwing is so ascendant, with a credibility that they enjoyed with George Bush and which they’re STILL enjoying with Barack Obama.
I, don’t sit around waiting for you to post, but I can’t recall a single post from you in which you were critical of Obama, and the ones in which you defended him, or, as in this one, went after someone who was critical of him, were numerous. I’m sorry about your “workload”, but it seems to have coincided with a period in which the criticism of Obama was high. Now that the republicans are making him look like some combination of Lincoln and FDR, I see that you’re getting more time off.
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As far as wanting you to disappear goes, I don’t care what you do, but you started this by dissing me for pointing out that the president of the united states has an obligation to lead, not follow. Which, I think it’s demonstrable that Barack Obama has not done, and in the process, he’s allowed the conservatives whom we hammered in the 2008 election, to make a near-miraculous recovery. I blame him for that. If you don’t; if you think he deserves to be rewarded for the state of our economy and for the sustaining of so many of the policies of George Bush, then I have to say; you’re part of the problem, not the solution.
“…he still needed 60 votes in the Senate…”
He needed no such thing. All he “needed” to do was confront the republicans by putting good reform legislation up to congress, and daring them to block it by filibustering. If he’d done this early on, when he had more clout and more or a mandate for real change, than any democrat since Roosevelt, the pressure on them would quickly have become unbearable, and he would have reduced them to near-impotence, politically speaking.
Instead he climbed into the “centrist” bed with them and two things happened as a result of that:
They repaid him by treating him like he was some kind of exalted janitorial White House custodian…
and the voters, disgusted by his pathetic “leadership”, punished he and the democrats by kicking the shit out of them in 2010.
Lastly, that you seem to think that the democrats, “led” by Obama, can retake the House, is breathtakingly out of touch with reality. I will be surprised if we manage to hang on to the Senate, since I think that practically every swing state will go back to the republicans, unless they’re insane enough to pick one of their out-and-out crazies for their nominee.
You continue to falsely claim I disappear when Obama is not politically ascendant. In effect, you are questioning my courage.
Tanbark:
it’s getting difficult to hear anything over the constant right-wing noise
I clicked through at least a couple dozen of half-assed–supposedly respectable and objective–U.S.-based newspaper sites, trying to find one measly article (news or opinion) which actually mentioned an uncontroversial fact hardly requiring onerous research to discover:
Nope. Not one.
As for Rush Limb[imitate sound of vomiting here], what scintillating logic from a
manentity who required daily handfuls of Oxycontin for his personal pleasure, yet denies medically necessary treatment for those who fail to rake in similar millions.