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The “healing process” involves the pastor shouting over the person being healed for the devil to come out of their body, while spraying water in their face.
You know that the U.S. has fundie churches willing to put their flock’s health at risk with false claims of healing HIV+ patients through prayer and purportedly “de-gaying” through “de-demonizing” people. Across the pond, from Sky News, an undercover investigation into practices at an evangelical church in Britain.
There is evidence evangelical churches in London, Manchester, Birmingham and Glasgow are claiming to cure HIV through God.
Sky sent three undercover reporters to the Synagogue Church of All Nations (SCOAN), which is based in Southwark, south London.
All of them told the pastors they were HIV positive – all were told they could be healed.
Once a month, the church has a prayer line, where people from across Europe come to be cured of all kinds of illness.
This sounds like bullsh*t exported from our charlatan churches:
One of the pastors, Rachel Holmes, told Sky’s reporter Shatila, who is a genuine HIV sufferer, they had a 100% success rate.
Ms Holmes said: “We have many people that contract HIV. All are healed.”
She said, if symptoms such as vomiting or diarrhoea persist, it is actually a sign of the virus leaving the body.
On a point of curiosity, aside from the general outrage at this nonsense, is why do these sects not recognize, through the lens of their own belief systems, that God — through humans — has allowed the discovery and creation of medicines, surgical procedures, and all sorts of medical advances? Why is prayer alone the way to cure disease? It makes no sense — and in the end, doesn’t work.
Ask Benny Hinn, the outlandish bogus “faith healer” who has bilked millions out of his flock.
Here we have America’s most violent so called “preacher” and false prophet, Benny Hinn. The bible speaks of laying hands on the sick, or the weak. No where does it say to punch, slap, or whip people with your coat. No where in the bible did people fall backwards and start convulsing like demon possessed people would. I’m sure the people at the “Benny Hinn Show” had an experience, but it was not a Christian one, and it certainly was not from God.
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Ugh. Fscking disgusting.
Awesome video though. Look for the Benny Hinn sith lord videos (like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9SS95q2kpg ) for more funny.
From the Sky link.
How is this not murder?
100% “success”
If the people that said that euphemistacally meant “they ALL die, Ha Ha,” that is pure evil.
I must live under a rock. I’ve never heard of Benny Hinn before. Where did he come from? He looks like a cross between Jimmy Swaggart and a World Wrestling goon.
If I told you to jump off a cliff and you were stupid enough to do it, it would be ruled a suicide.
I think that’s a bogus analogy.
It appears that this Grifter is engaging, at the very least, in a version of “false advertising.” I realize that the law says caveat emptor, or “let the buyer beware.”
That said, it seems to me that there is quite a bit of responsibility and accountability on Hinn’s part that you seem to be quite happy to willfully ignore. Why is that, one wonders.
I’ll have to take your word on that.
Wonder if they were asked to sign over their life insurance policies to the church before they stopped taking their meds.
No matter what they call it, it certainly is not a “Church.” I’m always amazed at what foolish and desperate people will believe. I hope this gets wide publicity in the HIV-positive community.
OK, if I told you that you would have 72 virgins in heaven if you jumped off a cliff and you jumped off a cliff, then it would be ruled insanity. Or suicide.
I dunno, is there some way a cult leader can be prosecuted if his followers do crazy things?
15,000 members spread across a few nations, likely subsidized by the gov of Nigeria, and actually doing a lot of good works mixed into which is the foolishness you write about.
Not sure this is important – Nigeria’s anti-gay law – leveling 10 years in prison for those found guilty of organizing, operating or supporting gay clubs, organizations and meetings, would seem of more interest.
But I guess a constant reminder that small groups of religious folks can be as stupid as the non-religious is always a good thing.
At least the Advocate seems to be taking an interest in the anti-gay law.
Why I would simply guess for myself that those obsessed with the behavior of gays are
likelier than usual gay gene carriers themselves
(apart, of course, from the history of one prominent gay basher after another turning out to be
gay, have (a) gay kid(s,) the history of virtually all murderers of gays proving being gay, the
great exterminator of history, Hitler, having been famously feminine, and really the consistencies
might as well run into the petabytes.)
Sexual behavioral differences are well established, actually most notably by a clinically defining famous
obstetric accident / sexual mal-assignment case.
It nonetheless should go without saying assumptions ignoring the infinite variability and mixtures of talents in humans,
as with life everywhere, are worse than self-limiting and limiting of others without
any meaningful basis.
They’ll not only often still be wrong, but can cause those most concerned with limitations to
link up more with those who are in fact scapegoated because they simply can be
scapegoated, that enabling politicians to associate any foe with the scapegoated.
Hang with the in-crowd, don’t get scapegoated. Or, if you’re in a harim (males are risk equally)
instead of shopping with a friend at a mall, don’t get hung.
That was the first basis of the fear of fascism.
It was innocent gay folk who thus
married the bad folk, the latter then yielding gays who learned government bytransference.
I think it was early presumed that bald men were somehow more masculine or virilent.
Today there’s evidence this gene:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521881,00.html
was thus married to the gene here:
(spam just barely removed in time, right here)
and thus bald men are a little likeliER to be gay.
This is not an anti-faith argument. Without meaning to spam
I’ve proposed a conveyed lesson with a hypocritical trick, or hook,
between two otherwise identical event streams.
One way of saying “it’s a dirty job but someone has to do it” is
“curiosity led me into a blushy pit, but if it reveals something
a tiny bit valid about a hugely significant subject, then it’s
worth it.”
I’ll tell ya, if I wanted to bestow a lesson in science, morality and history
starting from early in a people’s development, I’d use a basis for inequality,
limitation, and deceit that would be sensed everywhere but treated differently
so folks could make some comparisons. There wouldn’t be many such levers to
choose from. If I were already a little different from the folks I was teaching,
then all the better.
After so many 10′s of generations, the unaffected incidence of homosexuality
is obviously utterly normal, obviously affording numerical genetic advantage
“TO THE GROUP,” the ways in which that happens being far too many to start listing
here today, but:
the evidence is very strong the Spartans used them for war.
Maybe more free time for thinking is maybe another.
That the Spartans used them for war would be extra interesting.
Assumptions of masculine appearance would self-fulfill that profile
being favored in the scapegoating community. That would self-fulfill
in-breeding the scared gay gene into those supposedly masculine-looking
folk.
One last point so I don’t upset half the audience.
My own freakasauris add-on is the above maybe affording math gradients
telling of event streams combining history, morality and math.
Jail those who lie to their flock like this.
It isn’t free speech, it’s public health hate speech.