
I don’t know what it will take for Herman Cain to realize that his ride in the 2012 GOP Clown Car is over, but I’m guessing that the numerous accusations from women that he sexually harassed/assaulted aren’t doing the trick. After a bold, insane statement like this, I’m sure of it (via TPM):
Herman Cain: For Every Person Who Says I Harassed Them, There Are ‘Thousands’ Who Say I Didn’t
Herman Cain’s latest defense against the sexual harassment charges dogging his campaign: you should really pay attention to the many, many people in the world who have not accused me of inappropriate behavior, not the five or so women who have.
“And I value my character and my integrity more than anything else. For every one person that comes forward with a false accusation, there are probably thousands who will say that none of that sort of activity ever came from Herman Cain.”
Good night, that is dumb. My Facebook page erupted when I posted this.
I mean, come on – what fantasy land is Cain and his campaign living in? I can only imagine the laughter in the other Clown Car campaigns as the pizza magnate continues to put out statements that defy any sort of common sense.
When you’re dealing with one accusation, that’s a problem, but most pols just go along with the time-tested ”he said, she said” defense. Once the floodgates open and several other women lodge similar (or worse) charges, it’s best to go into “no comment” mode. For better or worse, the latter at least gets him out of the outright “I never met her” or “It never happened” excuses, particularly when other people were present or a third party can pop up and say they saw the pol in the company of one of the said accusers that he alleges he doesn’t know.
Cain’s right-winger defenders have decided that it’s easier (if not logical) to take all of the women on with the “Little Bit Nutty, Little Bit Slutty” playbook. Boy is this getting tired.
I guess when the whole premise of the 2012 Republican contender Clown Car is “any warm body but Romney” (see: Conservative Activists Launch NotMittRomney.com), Cain has the opportunity to publicly jump the shark over and over.
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Perry’s Major Malfunction
I can’t close this post without mentioning the cognitive problem child in the Clown Car that is Rick Perry. I know some people are better at public speaking and debating, but mother of god, what was going on last night? He couldn’t remember the third federal agency that he’d like to eliminate. It’s painful to watch:
Perry: There is a reason that caterpillar moved their high hydraulics and in the state of texas. It does than have anything to do with the republican versus democrat. It had everything to do with creating a climate in our state where the job creators knew that they were going to have the opportunity to keep more of what they work for. That’s what americans are looking for. They are looking for a tax plan that basically says you are going to be able to keep more of what you work for. They are looking for a regulatory climate that does not strangle the life out of their businesses and when they want to put those dollars out there to create the wealth. That’s what americans are looking for. I think we are getting all tangled up around an issue here about can you work with democrats, see you work with republicans? Yeah, we can all do that. But the fact of the matter is we better have a plan in place that americans can get their hands around and that’s a reason my flat tax is the only one of all of the folks these good folks on the stage it balance it is budget in 2020. It does the things though the regulatory climate that has to happen. And I will tell you, it is three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. Commerce, education, and the — what’s the third one there? Let’s see.
Paul: Five.
Perry: Five. Okay. Commerce, education, and the –
Romney: EPA?
Perry: EPA, there you go.
Harwood: Seriously — is epa one you are talking about?
Perry: No, sir, no, sir. We are talking about the — agencies of government — epa needs to be rebuilt.
Harwood: You can’t — you can’t name the third one?
Perry: The third agency of government I would — I would do away with education, the –
Romney: commerce.
Perry: Commerce and, let’s see. I can’t. The third one, I can’t. Sorry. Oops.
It’s too easy to say he’s just a doofus and can’t put his thoughts together; I don’t think this cans his campaign, which is something blathered all over the media this AM in the aftermath of this brain fart. His ineptitude when placed in a formal situation before cameras hurts him only because the media performance standard is so high; after all, it’s tough to follow smooth operators like JFK, Ronald Reagan (first term) , and Bill Clinton. Most of our presidents prior to the era of sound and moving images wouldn’t make the cut today.
Perry’s not electable because of atrocious record as governor of Texas, his ties to theocrats and extremists. That plus his general @sshattery is too reminiscent of George W. Bush. Tell me the American voter wouldn’t fall for another loser from Texas.




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The American voter wouldn’t fall for another loser from Texas.
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pffffHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh god sorry
Wasn’t that jeffery dalmer’s defense?
Sure, he raped, tortured, killed, and then ate boys and young men; but for each person he brutally murdered and had for dinner, there were literally THOUSANDS that he did not kill and then eat.
Maybe some of those “thousands” are bitter at Cain because he didn’t shower his attention on them.
Has anyone seen the Mike Tyson (!) parody video of Herman Cain?
Frighteningly good because it’s frighteningly accurate. CAIN!
This is why I love FDL.
At least you’re giving Cain the understood and accepted American right of being innocent until proven guilty. Reminds me of another guy, an actual sitting POTUS not just a candidate, who received oral sex from an intern and then lied about it. What was the liberal reaction then…let’s see…oh yeah, “It wasn’t really sex and so he didn’t really lie about it.”
As for Perry’s brain fart, have you never had a moment where you just forgot? Never been in the situation where someone asks for your phone number and you just blank it out? Yeah ok.
Speaking of Clown Cars, allow me remind everyone what the Most Intelligent President Ever once said back when he was just Super Cool and Hip Candidate Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc
Good posting. Rational, informative, and non-screaming, unlike some recent ones at other progressive blogs that will remain unnamed.
So what came of the alleged hermancainpac.com post showing a picture of one the named victims of Cain’s sexual harassment and calling her ugly and not worth harassing? Crooks and Liars comments went crazy over this but I haven’t seen the issue picked up elsewhere. Was it fake? I did what I could to track down the site, a Godaddy-registered domain, and it looked legit.
Hmm, wasn’t it the right-wing blog Politico that raised the harrassment issue about Cain? The issue was about unwanted attention. I don’t recall any claim that Monica received unwanted attention.
On Tuesday, on my way to work, I called in to a local Anchorage rght-wing talk show. The host was trying to drum up support for Mittster. I said that this crop of GOP candidates is so BAD, my dog could do a better job, if he had the right staff. The next three callers agreed, except two of them thought their dog could do better than mine.
But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
So far all we have is accusations of the sort that any judge would laugh right out of a courtroom were it presented as evidence of wrongdoing, emphasis on the word “accusations”.
Your statment is correct, but Herman Cain is not on trial here at the Lake. Stories about him are simply reposted here for comic relief.
What, elect another Texas loser like Dwight D. Eisenhower, he of the oft-touted and liberal approved high tax rates and the only POTUS actually born in Texas? Perish the thought.
Preznit Chimpy Dumbya Bushitler was born in Connecticut.
Of course, with Clinton there was obvious consent. That matter at all?
That’s a outright lie we have a $35,000 AND A $45,000 “settlement” for those sexual harassment “accusations” to refute that lie. Lay off the “clarence stonewall shit”.
Having his employer pay the freight doesn’t let him, the harasser, off the hook or give him the plausible deniability he claims absolves him.
Ah, well like I said this is what I love about FDL, the ability to ignore or gloss-over similar missteps and misdeeds of Democrat politicians. Whatever it takes to fight the good fight for social justice, even if it means burying the high-minded idealism when it becomes inconvenient.
Take heart though, those zealots on the right are equally capable of similar actions, and just as enjoyable to needle.
Please don’t use the word “shower” as it currently has very negative connotations.
My observations:
Gennifer Flowers and the other indicators of Bill Clinton’s extracurricular sexual activity did not derail his 1992 campaign. What makes Cain a bit different is that his accusers are indicating that his attentions were unwanted.
Rick Perry’s goal seems to show that he is “more” of just about aeverything than George W. Bush. as Texas governor, he has signed the death warrants for more executions, has shown in other ways that he is more extreme that GWB, and he’s now trying to prove that he is “more” unintelligent than GWB.
Next to Rick Perry, George W. Bush comes across as articulate and intelligent.
None of the Republican candidates are qualified to be president. The incumbent president, even though he has been maddeningly conservative (while being accused by the troglodytes of being a radical socialist muslim Kenyan communist atheist) on a number of issues, is better qualified than anyone else running. I’d only wish he would step aside for Hillary Clinton, though, who would have been a better president these past four years. But that is not about to happen, so what would make me happy would be if he switched Hillary into the vice presidency, and put Joe Biden in as Secretary of State, for term 2. Putting Hillary on the ticket would improve things a bit.
Yeah I’ve heard about those settlements, the ones that are originally presented in the multimillion dollar range so that the accused feels relieved to be able to pay a much smaller sum to get it all taken care of regardless of innocence.
Considering that one of the women is a proven serial-accuser, there is at least a small portion of doubt which needs to be examined further.
Eisenhower grew up in Abilene, Kansas.
And, maybe she was just tired of taking crap from men making passes at her at work.
Indeed, I said many times before, the 2012 GOP race would be an “E” ticket ride. It hasn’t disappointed. Last two weeks have provided us more pure entertainhment than we got in four years of the Quayle vice-presidency.
Rafe: As a native Texan,I do appreciate the fact that you clarified for us that W was borned in CT. OTOH, he lived much of his life in Texas and we MUST acknowledge we elected him governor, providing him the stepping stone to the WH. LIke in basketball, “out on us”.
I’m just sorry both teh Bush and Cain “crash and burn” senarios will soon end. BUTTTT, we still have Bachmann and Newt AND Newt’s wife and any number of debates still left.
I hate to keep reminding everyone…Clinton did NOT have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky. He had sex FROM her. Anbd, what I hear, she did a really good job.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/09/1034802/-Herman-Cain-PAC-Did-Not-Call-Karen-Kraushaar-an-ugly-bitch:-The-website-is-a-lie?via=recent
Here’s the answer to my question about the C&L story about Cain. It was indeed an elaborate hoax. C&L admitted they made a mistake and said “we apologize to our readers.” That’s not enough, IMO. Folks might want to just glance through the “comments” that followed the original C&L story. They were not helpful to progressive causes.
I’ve had it with C&L (and also Americablog). I’m sticking with FDL (and Kos). You guys post information and have not let yourselves become a Daily Enquirer for the progressive movement. (Also, you reread what you write before hitting send.) I’m glad to be an FDL member and will happily continue to support FDL and its work.
Ya’ know………and we don’t know each other, right??? That’s not a bad idea. OTOH, I am afraid that Romney will be the next president so it’s a moot point.
But, I am hoping to be a delegate to the dem convention, I’ll bring that up if I don’;t get arrested on the floor.
Really, Perry’s “memory loss” isn’t what is important–what’s important is the departments he wants to eliminate. The Department of Energy???? Energy is responsible for all things NUCLEAR in this country–weapons development, plant safety, etc. Perry is off his rocker and he has a lot of company.
Maybe. As in “maybe”. Or as in there seem to be a lot of hypothetical “maybe” situations being thrown around.
Obviously he ignored Palin’s suggestion that he writes shit down on his hand.
I know, I was just pointing out the hyperbolic nature of the statement “another loser from Texas”.
Whatever he did, and I hesitate to overvisualize, he certainly had her enthusiastic consent. Which is all I really care about. On second thought, the abuse of a good cigar is of SOME concern to me . . .
Rafe, I usually don’t get personally involved with other posters, but I think the original allegations were probably subjective and wy overblown against Cain., After all the women said the “were ade to feel uncomfortable”. That’s a FAR cry from harassment in my book. THis last accuser, Bialek, her story is totally unbelievable to ME, and several of my colleagues.
But..we are having tons of fune at Mr. Cain’s expense over it all.
You think Cain is the victim? This is a conspiracy against him? Then it is a conspiracy from the R party, because every D wants Cain to be the nominee.
You’re not a TExan are you???
well, my two centavos, I think some of this is just “chickens comin’ home to roost” complicated by some greedy bitches takin’ advantage of the situation, and one REALLY BIG liar with a sheister attorney.
Then Lyndon Johnson may have been the one to illustrate the point.
You ain’t gonna be on a jury with that attitude.
Hey, I could be wrong.
Dude, let’s not go pickin on LBJ. We’re not saying he was ther best president ever. But, if you listened to any opf the LBJ tapes, he tried really hard and meant well. And, he didn;t run again. That took honesty and guts.
LBJ: The Mastermind of the JFK Assassination.
I’m not picking on LBJ. He was a powerful member of the
Democratic Party Machine in Texas, and in spite of his “less than socially liberal” roots he signed the Voting Rights Act which destroyed the Democratic Party throughout the Old South. That took guts, and he did it because it was the right thing to do.
Herman Cain did WHAT to a shark?
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Seriously, though, what he ought to do (assuming, as seems likely, that he did many of the things he’s accused of) is apologize once more, repeat that what he did was wrong, and why, and promise not to do it again. Then, ideally, he would go on to discuss his platform. At least, that’s what I’d do, because heaven knows, I have lots of amends to make in my personal life as well. LOL, if I were ever to run for office you could make a mint selling tabloid stories of my sordid yet ordinary exploits.
Of course, Cain has no platform. Right now I bet he’d even be glad to be asked about Uz-beki-beki-stan-stan-stan.
Oh Lord, another conspiracy theory. No Motive, No Motive, No Motive. His ascendancy to the POTUS destroyed LBJ’s political career. I’m really tired of America’s fascination with conspiracy theories.
Especially because Ronald Reagan made the abolition of the Department of Energy a major campaign promise in 1980. But then, as President, he learned that the DOE makes nuclear weapons and he changed his mind.
I’m pretty sure major party politics at the Presidential level are concerned primarily with figuring out how bad a candidate they can field and still win.
You have a good point. If you want to keep the WH in dem hands why is Biden staying on the ticket as VP for 2012? You want a veep who can run again in 2016 and Biden is ready to retire now if it weren’t for the free everything.
Hillary would be a good choice as she may not be as much of a corporate shill as O is and has some spine. She also attacts women voters. Expect to see Rove and Rushbo note the Bubba would then be roaming the halls again trolling for interns.
Re Herm, you mean his time as clown car driver is going to be coming to an end soon?
I agree. I’ll put you on my “friends” list if I ever figure out how to do that.
That’s funny and quite possibly more true than we’d like to think.
IMO, ‘fraid you’re right. SHame too. He’s been a pretty “entertaining” driver. I also think a couple of his passengers are disembarking at the next stop. Eventually, nobody but Mormons on the bus. They don’t drink or do anything fun.
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“Innocent until proven guilty” is not the standard for seeking elected office. After all, the issue is not whether Cain is going to the Big House for 25 years, it’s whether he gets to be POTUS.
False equivalency. There was no allegation that Monica wasn’t fully willing, unlike Cain’s “grope-ees”.
Just like Cain can do no wrong (given the cheers he got last night) to the very same set of people who have pilloried every Democratic politician accused of sexual dalliance from Clinton to Weiner?
There is a difference you’ve missed. With willing participants, we libruls don’t especially ‘het up over sex. You guys do. Cain could have “gotten it on” hundreds of women and it’s his (and their) business insofar as most of us are concerned. The biggie thing here is that Cain (like many, er, capitalist) sees employees the same way feudal lords saw serfs: as people who can be abused at whim. (“You DO want this job, now don’t you?”)
-stewartm
“Jump” is NOT being used in a sexual context here. In fact, it’s a metaphor. Or is it a simile? Maybe an analogy????
Anyway, in case you’re too young, it actually has to dfo with the TV show “Happy Days”, Garry Marshall, ,and Henry Winkler. Kinda complicated.
Saying that Hillary attracts women voters is as offensive to me as saying that black voters only voted for Obama because he was black.
There may be a few of each who did so for such reasons, but in general, I think both black voters and women voters are quite capable of making a decision that isn’t based on emotion – as your comment seems to suggest we/they are not.
I appreciate your posts, Ms. Spaulding.
from HRC’s résumé: Walmart board of directors, six years
Wouldya rather have cancer or a stroke?
None of the above, please
Hey, let’s not discount this book just because it’s from some unknown baby boomer with an LBJ/Vietnam War complex that had enough cash on hand to get a self-published website to crank it out.
http://www2.xlibris.com/requestkit3/index.aspx?src=goo&gkw=xlibris+A0Y0A0&kw=xlibris&mt=3&gclid=CPuqm_qQrawCFY2b7QodzB7QFg
After all, one of the reviews you get when you google this alternative for toilet paper did say “…it reads like a novel.”
http://www.lbj-themastermind.com/author.htm
Hope his advance from the Koch brothers was worth it.
No motive? There’s plenty of evidence that LBJ was probably facing a criminal indictment and that JFK was planning to dump him from the ticket in 1964.
I read the book, and found it persuasive. Koch brothers? If anything, the writer is on the left.
But, if you don’t like that book, you just have to read the three volumes published so far of Robert Caro’s biography of LBJ to realize what a sleaze the man was.
And Caro’s volumes got great reviews, and are regarded as the definitive biography of the man. I can’t wait till the next, fourth volume appears. It is supposed to deal with LBJ’s vice presidency, presidency, and postpresidency. If it ever comes out, Caro is going to have to deal with things like the JFK assassination and the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty.
Really?