If this ballot initiative in Mississippi passes, it will make a woman a criminal in the eyes of the law if she exercises her right to control whether she becomes pregnant — not just whether she will have access to abortion services.
Ballot Measure 26, which has the blessing of luminaries like Mike Huckabee and Brett Favre’s wife Deanna, is outrageous:
“[H]uman life would begin not at birth but at the moment of fertilization. If the amendment passes, it will outlaw abortion in the state entirely, even in cases of rape or incest. It might even leave some forms of contraception, and procedures such as in vitro fertilization, on life support.
Yes and the desired interpretation, led by the homo-hating, womb-controlling American Family Association and zygote Personhood movement advocate Les Riley, a former candidate for agriculture commissioner, and chair of the state Constitution Party is jaw-dropping.
Mississippi anti-abortion activists wants to define personhood as starting when a sperm fertilizes an egg. In that case, it would likely make intrauterine devices (IUDs), which can prevent pregnancy by blocking the implantation of a fertilized egg in the uterus, illegal. (IUDs can also prevent sperm from fertilizing the egg in the first place, and IUDs with hormones also operate much like regular old birth control pills, but that doesn’t seem to matter to anti-abortion activists.).
…But the law could also introduce the possibility of banning any form of hormonal birth control. Generally, “the pill” (as well as the shot, the patch, and the ring) work by stopping ovulation. But some anti-abortion groups argue that there can be failures on that front, and the doses of hormone could possibly also work by stopping implantation should an egg and sperm still manage to meet up.
Bottom line: all sex that involves the potential creation of a citizen fetus is under attack. Irin Carmon at Salon:
If this initiative passes, and fertilized eggs on their own have full legal rights, anything that could potentially block that implantation—something a woman’s body does naturally all the time—could be considered murder. Scientists say hormonal birth-control pills and the morning-after pill work primarily by preventing fertilization in the first place, but the outside possibility, never documented, that an egg could be fertilized anyway and blocked is enough for some pro-lifers. Indeed, at least one pro-Personhood doctor in Mississippi, Beverly McMillan, refused to prescribe the pill before retiring last year, writing, “I painfully agree that birth control pills do in fact cause abortions.”
Actually, IMHO the amendment’s goal is worse than just banning hormone-based contraception. Based on the loose language — couldn’t this law also apply to condoms since they “prevent sperm from fertilizing the egg in the first place“? The use of the condom in hetero boot-knocking is preventing “what comes naturally” to these ignorant, judgmental uterus invaders, who apparently want state tax dollars (in a state as poverty-stricken as Mississippi) spent prosecuting women and their doctors. Will condom-using men get time in the joint as well?




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In Mississippi, they have a safe haven law:
Mississippi Safe Haven Law:
Ann. Code 43-15-201; 43-15-207
You can leave your baby, up to 3 days old, with an employee at any emergency medical provider, hospital emergency room or a licensed adoption agency in Mississippi.
Clearly, women should simply take anything that might have the possibility of containing a fertilized egg to one of these places and drop it off anonymously. It then becomes their responsibility to keep the little ovum alive.
From a 1965 song by Phil Ochs. Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose. Or plus c’est la même merde, as frequent commenter TechBear puts it.
And here’s to the laws of Mississippi
Congressmen will gather in a circus of delay
While the Constitution is drowning in an ocean of decay
Unwed mothers should be sterilized, I’ve even heard them say
Yes, corruption can be classic in the Mississippi way
Oh, here’s to the land you’ve torn out the heart of
Mississippi find yourself another country to be part of
So, where does it stop? Will women need to present every tampon and maxi-pad to a goverment inspector to ensure they haven’t murdered a stray cell?
Will men have to wear condom’s constantly and present them to the goverment inspectors as well to ensure no stray sperm hasn’t falled to the earth???
When will all women be mandated to be breed by state approved studs in state run breeding pens?
This from a state that has a statewide reading level of a 3rd grader and a comprehension of a 2nd grader?
What about those who are visiting or just passing through? Will they be subject to inspection at the state line to make sure that they are not carrying an ovum out of the state?
I would ask where does the stupidity stop but it is Mississippi. Its probably only the begining.
This story, as it is evolving, continues to Work On My nerves.
I mostly focus on Feeding the Poor, but this item Trips My Switch.
Thank you, Pam, for continuing to Lift Up the important Human Rights issues.
Ah here’s to the state of Missippi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P7UHnM9mcI
Think there will probably some very angry men in Ms if this passes because a lot of wives are going to say “honey, that’s YOUR room and this is MY room. Goodnight.”
People aren’t persons. Only fetuses & corps are persons.
More ‘legal’ cases have been brought in favor of corp personhood under the 14th amendment than civil rights cases. (Zinn)
That will never happen. Separation of bedrooms by gender will be declared illegal bc it will prevent procreation.
So Deanna Favre is Serena Joy to her hubby’s Commander Fred?
In Ms women make the decisions – absolutely true, I promise. Women decide everything – the men decide things like when to go fishing, etc. Has always been that way – the velvet glove and all that.
Evidence suggest Ms. is completely wrong. Feminist movement a complete failure. But perhaps I am bitter. No accounting for how much wrong in the world that doesn’t stem from wrong-headed lil wimmin.
On edit: Kinda like poor blacks are responsible for complete collapse of banking system.
BC poor blacks & lil wimmin have soooooo much power & money in the system.
“Honey, I won’t be home on time. Gotta stop in at City Hall and pick up a conception certificate. Yup, I’m late again. See ya’.”
So, what’s Deanna Favre’s birth control story? Brett and Deanna have two children. If they’re practicing natural birth control, they’re showing otherworldly restraint. Not a notable Brett Favre trait.
I don’t have any compunctions about raising the issue because Deanne has put herself out there supporting this obscenity.
Left ya a comment several threads back. So did econobuzz. A to your Q is labor productivity. Can’t account for Baker’s locution except brain fart, as he should have known how to word that sentence.
It was bad enough when the right wing crazies wanted government small enough to fit into a bedroom, now they want it small enough to fit into a woman uterus.
TMI but here it is.
When I married my first husband, my mother asked me what I was doing for birth control. I thought it was not her biz but answered birth control pill as getting rid of the conversation ASAP. However, I couldn’t resist asking her what she & my father had done (ewwww).
Two brothers: One 10 years older than me, the other 6 years older.
Mom’s A: It wasn’t as if your father & I weren’t attracted to each other. We used a combination of abstinence & withdrawal.
Sometimes one just shouldn’t ask.
I was 2 years late.
What is TMI? Two years late? Your parents may have just lucked out and one or the other been low fertility. Between mine, it was probably him: as an adult in his own living space, soaked in a very hot tub every morning for at least 45 minutes. Heat seriously impacts sperm and his daily hot tub regime could well have damaged his sperm. She had a series of miscarriages, which were attributed to her inability to carry to term; I believe it was non viable fetuses being spontaneously aborted. Today, she’d be chargeable in more than one state.
Thanks again, I did answer on the thread. I forgot about productivity, about 1%
Speaking of productivity, just to get back on topic, I’m reminded of the time somebody asked a pediatrician how he liked his job. He said, I love it, ‘cuz I’ve got so many guys working for me.
Can we talk about the driver here, Christianity? That religion (among others) that puts women down? Can we get Hillary on this? (just kidding)
Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Eph.5:22-24 “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.”
1 Pet.3:1 “Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.”
Ecclesiastes 25:22 “Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die.”
I really do think that is the logical mandated requirement, state supplied surrogates for all embryos women do not want to bring to term, that the state must provide if such a law is enacted.
I’ve got my answer. So let’s make believe that these movements spring from . . . nowhere.
If I go to Mississipi and kill an actual human, I’d be arrested and charged there, even if I’m from another state or country. Does this law mean that we have to remove patches and change prescriptions at the border? Will they have clinics at the airport and at Wal-Marts at the border to remove IUD’s? If I have an IUD but don’t have sex, is that ok? Because maybe they’re counting on our being so sickened by the laws we’ll lose our libido at the border.
It’s high time the right to life movement get serious and start treating males as sperm donors and make masturbatory ejaculation against the law. Equal opportunity jack-offs if you will.
yes, it’s perhaps the appropriate reply… every sperm is sacred. Equal opportunity control over bodily functions. A sperm registry to be kept and church-monitored.
Good point.
MS would most likely want their law to be universal, for the entire planet, so that unacceptable contraceptives wouldn’t be an issue. This MS law would be so righteous, by their own measure, that the laws anywhere else contradicting MS’s personhood laws could not be tolerated. How could MS, in all good conscience, stand idly by while so many innocent zygote persons are denied their human rights? I think they will become morally obligated to fight to protect the human rights of all zygote persons everywhere. Gosh, MS must really have unlimited resources, (and plenty of delusions,) to be able to enact such a law.
I do wonder if all this is really about Mississippi’s lingering traumas caused by the violence of institutional slavery and the battles over federally mandated civil rights protections for all actual human beings no matter how much melatonin they have.
Perhaps if all the women moved out of Mississippi it would get the attention of the knuckle-dragging males and help them recognize that these kinds of invasive laws are unacceptable.
I know it’s easy misinterpret tone, so please know I ask this sincerely:
Women, where is your anger?
Where is an anger so strong that women flood this state’s capital and shut it down? Where is an anger so strong that every legislator who would vote for this is being hounded and shouted-down at home, at work, at public appearances?
This is not to say that men shouldn’t also be angry and active and engaged. But our bodies will remain our own, AND our children – unwanted or not – will arrive without 9 months of pregnancy, without the danger and toll it takes on a woman’s body.
But I JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND.
After Dan White’s trial, men and women rioted.
During the early days of the AIDS, a relatively small group of men and women formed groups like Act-Up and Queer Nation and hounded the government and the FDA until action was taken. Sit-ins. Demonstrations. We left dying loved ones in the care of another in order to shut down the Golden Gate Bridge to show we would not allow “business-as-usual.”
When CA Gov Pete Wilson vetoed anti-discrimination legislation AB-101, we hounded and shouted-down Wilson at every public appearance for months and months. The New York Times reported that these demonstrations ruined Wilson’s, who had been touted as a Presidential contender, chance to run.
These things were accomplished by an unpopular and, demographically speaking, tiny group of lesbians, gays, and a handful of straight allies.
Women, where is an anger so strong that you travel to this state and SHUT IT DOWN?