
It’s a natural question to ask, of course, after being told by your state lawmakers — pissed away $150K paid with our tax dollars — to hold a special legislative session to specifically stroke off their inner bigot. Actually, for most of these pro-amendment politicians, there was nothing “inner” about their full-time, fact-free, disgusting bigotry.
Sure, the first impulse is to say “I’m outta here.” There are good reasons for that – if political institutions are filled with lawmakers who cannot separate church and state that’s a problem. Was there really a need to try to falsely underscore that heterosexual marriage needs some sort of super-double protection during a recession is important, a state is in serious crisis.
Part of the problem is that most of the public doesn’t understand the impact this amendment will have on LGBT North Carolinians. Yes, marriage is already banned under a state DOMA here, but municipalities that established domestic partnership benefits, and private institutions, corporations, and organizations that offer same-sex spousal equivalent benefits — know that all that of this now in jeopardy– those nascent forms of equality can be washed away once bigotry is enshrined in our constitution.
But in terms of staying or leaving for more politically friendly environs, LGBTs in any state with a marriage amendment in place should decide what is best for their family situation. In some cases, there may be people who simply cannot afford to pick up and move. For others they have close family and ties to their community they may not wish to leave.
The fact is that is that you do have to have a pretty thick skin to live out-of-the-closet here, particularly as an activist and one of color – the closet, sadly is still alive and well. We’re at a cultural time in this state that many LGBTs are socially out, and professionally closeted.
It’s less about outlandish day-to-day discrimination than living with the fact that unless you can afford an attorney to file all the paperwork for living wills, medical and legal power of attorney, etc, you are SOL. Often times, potential allies only have vague notions why an amendment is bad — because the issue doesn’t rise to the level of disrupting to their day-to-day lives.
Personally, I can say good things about life in Durham as an out lesbian. I lived in NYC from 1976-1989 and chose to moved back here for the pace and quality of life. All I need now is my civil equality (no small matter).
In my mother’s arms outside of Durham’s Lincoln Hospital, a nod to a time where black residents relied on separate facilities for health services.
Growing up in Durham I was, of course, more attuned in that period to racial and class differences, even as a child. It was a city where conflicts were seen in terms of black and white. No thought back then was given to other minorities, such as the strong growth of the Latino population that was to come. Today, like many other states with changing racial demographics, are grappling with what it means to “brown up.”
But the Triangle area (that includes Raleigh, Durham and Chapel Hill as its hub) has always chosen to change with the times, in order to stay ahead of the curve when it came realizing that an agriculture and textile base was not going to be economically viable. That’s what resulted in the creation of the Research Triangle Park.
In the 1950s, North Carolina was home to a deteriorating economic base rooted in tobacco, furniture manufacturing, small-scale farming and textiles, and had the second-lowest per capita income in the nation. The state’s economic future was uncertain.
But in 1959, a group of the state’s brightest political, business and academic leaders created a new future for North Carolina. Together, they worked to create a more sustainable economic base that would carry North Carolina into the 21st century. Drawing upon the strengths and synergies between North Carolina’s academic, government and industry base they created RTP as a place to attract and grow research and development (R&D) operations.
The vision was to provide a ready physical infrastructure that would attract research oriented companies. The advantage of locating in RTP would be that companies could employ the highly-educated local work force and be proximate to the research being conducted by the state’s research universities.

Left: With my uncle Aaron Spaulding, at the then-rinky dink Raleigh-Durham Airport (RDU), now a still-growing international airport. That original terminal in that photo does exist today, it’s scheduled for “retirement” with expansion soon. And no, you can’t stand out on the tarmac and watch the planes take off anymore.
Right: Spaulding and Linwood Street intersection located in a residential neighborhood in Central Durham, a stone’s throw from Lincoln Community Health Center. The street is actually named after my family.
As you might have guessed, the Spaulding side of my family is steeped in the economic, political and civil rights history of Durham. (1) (2)
So I have strong ties to this part of my state, the place where I was born; I don’t want to cede it to the ignorant who happen to be in state office now, guided by that ignorance, intolerance, and sadly, the influence of professional homophobes who are earning a paycheck to stay obsessed with hate. These people are not ethically compromised, but the level of obsession feels oh-to-familiar. These same people decades earlier, would be the same kind of low-lifes that wanted to preserve Jim Crow. Except in today’s battle to save marriage, we see bigotry across the color lines.
It’s a sad state of affairs that one’s faith can be turned against your neighbors who happen to be LGBT so quickly — and that includes demonizing LGBT people of color. Thank you Marcus Brandon, our only out LGBT in the General Assembly, for being a very visible reminder to the anti-gay, fundamentalist black pastors like Donald “Faggot!” Fozard, who would try to ignore that we exist in order to fuel hate from the pulpit. And those faith leaders who remain silent in the fight for equality to avoid rocking the boat, share equal culpability in creating an atmosphere where being LGBT is a “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” matter for the flock. (BTW, I have no doubt that many of these same churches are in denial and have not grappled with the growing HIV/AIDS holocaust in minority communities either.)
Epic examples of homophobia – like Dominionist and sponsor of the marriage amendment, State Sen. James Forrester – are eventually going to die off. The kind of fear, contempt and ignorance he represents cannot stand if North Carolina state wants to economically thrive.
The creative class that helped build the Triangle, many moving to this state for the tangibles and intangibles — jobs, decent climate, attractive cost of living and access to a wide variety of arts and open cultural expression – has to be appalled at the time, effort and energy spent on restricting the civil rights of any group of taxpayers. I think the shock still hasn’t worn off at the level of vitriol directed publicly toward LGBT North Carolinians from the General Assembly on my dime.
These bigots really do want us to pack up and move out, even willing to let those tax dollars go. Do I want to give them that satisfaction? No. I can take no other message from those votes this week, even with the unemployment situation in crisis.
And this was the kind of thinking that went on in the Deep South during the pushback against Jim Crow. Today we see the legacy of stubborn bigotry down there. Those states that wanted to keep blacks in their place, did so at economic and growth peril. They chose to bend to fear, and in almost every measure, the Deep South has paid the price for not embracing diversity. Clearly that screaming siren of the past fell on deaf ears at the NC General Assembly.
But it’s not a reason to leave NC; the polls don’t favor an amendment our constitution. This was brainchild of frustrated, prejudiced lawmakers frustrated by eight years of inability to pass garbage legislation like this. It’s not just about double downing on making same-sex marriage illegal, it’s worse – it threatens existing various domestic partnerships at the municipal level, and makes it easy to challenge private same-sex spousal equivalent benefits in the very institutions that are the basis for the existence of the forward-thinking partners in the state’s economic engines of the present — and future.

Left: Pastor Billy Ball, a “friend” of the Blend who has sent me damnation Valentines and other deranged emails, made the trip from all the way from Primrose, GA to join us at NC Pride 2009.
I know my state is better than this – we have to accept that we are in this dilemma because of a 1) crappy economy, 2) over-reaching Republicans who have been frustrated in having their bigot bill die over and over when the General Assembly was run by Dems, and 3) an environment where Dem, Moderate and Indy voters have a harder time understanding why they do need to get out the vote. It’s a tall order, but not impossible given the social trends outside of the Gen Assembly.
So should I stay or should I go? Packing up and leaving is not an option for me. It’s too easy to leave when the issue is about awakening potential allies to show up at the polls next May. We need help from LGBTs around the country on the heavy lifting because the body blow LGBTs received in this state this week. In all honesty, the bizarre and frightening actions are likely to scare some NC LGBTs from coming out, the very thing we need to happen; it’s essential.
Those of us who are employed with protections (by default, you can be fired for your job because you are LGBT, unless your private employer offers those protections) have a special responsibility to be visible during this run up to the vote next May. It’s the one thing the Forresters, Stams and Bergers of the world are afraid of. They know there is no rational basis for this kind of amendment. So every vote counts. Hell no, I’m not leaving, you bastards.




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That’s how I feel about Texas, Pam. But unlike you, I am only here until my Mother leaves me behind, since she refuses to move elsewhere. Then I will head to more hospitable climes-both figuratively and literally. There was a time when I was actually proud to be a Texan, especially an Austinite, but that was before I became educated and politically aware.
I have it with Teahadists-in fact, I am certainly amenable to letting the bigoted assholes have their own Country. Provided, of course that we can freely emigrate to those places that exist in reality-land.
Solidarity!
It’s such a personal question.
I have lived most of my adult life in New York City, since 1993.
Sometimes I read what our Red State friends go through and think, “For fuck’s sake! Get the Hell outta there! Life is actually GOOD elsewhere!!!”
What I have put up with is nothing compared to what many have, aside from one Subway assault, yes, for being gay. But no place on Earth is safe from LGBT violence. But I’ve never been closeted at work, and my co-workers love me and never have I felt like an “other.” Nor my neighbors nor any of the occasions I have mingled in predominately straight political clubs, Churches, wherever.
But we obviously need warriors in these regressive states, and there’s no one better than you Pam. It would clearly be a loss to NC in aggregate and the LGBT movement there.
But, life is short too. And that is one thing I think when I read about what gays go through in the South and other regressive areas. Life if short. Do you really want to spend it in places where you’re hated by so many people?
Living in a relative Mecca, I try to be out and proud as possible and try to set an an example and fight for the states where things are worse.
This is what Paul Robeson said to HUAC, when they asked why he didn’t stay in Russia:
Because my father was a slave, and my people died to build this country and I am going to stay here and have a part of it just like you. And no fascist- minded people will drive me from it. Is that clear?
It’s really a matter of time for me. I live where the conveniences of life are many – first-class health care, short commute, the ability to be able to own a home. Not exactly what these homophobes think is the HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA. I don’t want to wait forever for equality here, but I am realistic that I won’t obtain them without help from SCOTUS. Our legislative body and courts do not favor full rights for LGBT taxpayers. But to see those votes was incredibly demoralizing from the standpoint that the hate level and lack of anything other than “I don’t like gays” or “the bible tells me X” to justify a need for an amendment that came out of supposedly educated lawmakers’ mouths was a kick in the gut.
You’ll get used to it. I have lived in Texas my whole life. I can’t imagine life as an out gay man in a state where I have some rights, protections, and acceptance. Maybe scientists and generally open-minded people all feel the same way. C’est la vie.
Amen and worth repeating.
Asked by HUAC why he had not remained in the Soviet Union, he replied that “because my father was a slave and my people died to build this country, and I am going to stay here, and have a part of it just like you and no fascist minded people will drive me from it! Is that clear?”
Every time something like this happens in Red and Purple states (and NC is Purple, just having an unfortunately turn of Red since 2010), folks in Blueland say “Get the hell out of there!”
Well, you see, the problem with that is, it just makes the Red states Redder and the Blue states bluer, if everyone flees for greener pastures. At the time we need people here to stay and fight the MOST, is when they want to throw in the towel.
I can certainly understand the sentiment, and if it’s a matter of actually losing health coverage or other benefits that can be gotten somewhere else, you gotta do what you gotta do. But the more progressives who leave NC, the harder it will be to change the tide at the ballot box or by lobbying. THEY WIN if we run away (and I know it’s not “running away” to want to go where you are more accepted, I really do). Before this horrible week, (or before the last midterm election, anyway), NC had been poised as an “up-and-coming” state, finally getting recognition for our educated populace (legislators by and large excepted) and GENERALLY great place to live and work. Remember, 31 other states passed anti-marriage amendments before we did–so the “fertile ground” to move TO isn’t necessarily a huge pasture. NC has not been a really “Deep South” state in a long time, though folks to the North love to stereotype us as such, every chance they get, and this week’s news certainly gives them evidence for their views.
WE NEED YOU MORE THAN EVER, PAM. WE NEED EVERY PROGRESSIVE VOTER MORE THAN EVER, FOR MAY AND NOVEMBER 2012.
Hey Pam.
Looks like we’re thinking along the same lines. I don’t know exactly how we’ll put these bigots in their place next May, but one way or another we will. Let’s stay in touch, and I will do what I can to help. I’m not in the loop with the insiders who run All Things Political in North Carolina, so if you hear about action plans that seem promising, be sure to give me a shout or tell someone else to track me down. BlueNC is at your disposal.
james at jamesprotzman dot com
Pam, I struggle with this daily. I’m a North Carolina native, a product of generations of Southerners, so to say that the South is in my blood would be an understatement. This May, I will graduate from Emory Law, so I know that I have options. Shall I sit for the New York Bar? Or shall I stick around in the South a bit? I really do not know what to do and time is running out – I have to make a decision soon.
On one hand, I realize that there is work to be done in the South. I don’t like the idea of asking someone else to do something that I am not willing to do. On the other hand, though, I am tired of making the same arguments over and over to people who just do not – or choose to not – get it. At times, I feel as though I am stuck in 2004 when the Republican machine, coupled with scared Democrats, made our relationships an issue. It is frustrating for me to go back to the same arguments – religious and civil law are two different things, the Constitution guarantees us all Due Process and Equal Protection, sexual orientation is not a choice – over and over. It is time that we move beyond this, or just push the haters out of our way. Moving them out of the way will be difficult. While the tide is turning, we are not there yet. I do believe we are looking at their last desperate attempts to demonize us (at least in this issue). Only now do I realize why they were so adamant that the marriage amendment become the 28th Amendment. 2004 was their chance, their only chance, to squash the conversation. Since then, the conversation has been on-going and that conversation has been part of the reason why hearts and minds across this country have changed. We’ve seen victory and defeat over the past seven years, but seven years has been enough. It is time to move forward, not backwards.
Yet the North Carolina General Assembly wants to move backwards. This is my biggest issue with the South – the bewildering motivation to go backwards. I wonder the source. Is it fear? Is it prejudice? Something else? Or a combination?
And I ask myself daily what I need to do to change it. But I also wonder if I can go through what it will take to change it. I don’t like the idea of going to a place where the work has been done, yet I realize there is more work to be done there. I want my rights, though, and I want them now. I have watched this unfold for years. It has run its course. We have a Constitution in this country and it must be respected. Equal rights must mean something or nothing.
As you have said repeatedly since the issue of same sex marriage became a topic of national conversation, the Supreme Court is one day going to decide this. I have concerns about the current Court, and I put all of my eggs in the Justice Kennedy basket. So many changes have happened to the Court since the Lawrence decision – Justice O’Connor was replaced with a more conservative jurist and Stephens and Souter have both departed (underlying meaning: we do not know how Sotomayor and Kagan will approach the marriage issue) – that I get lukewarm with the issue. While the path is being laid for the issue to arrive at the Court, other changes can take place between now and then. There is an election next year and the next President may get two SCOTUS nominees – Justice Ginsburg has not been in great health and Justice Breyer is getting older. A Republican President replacing those two liberal jurists would be a disaster, but on the flip side, we’re not sure how a Democrat (assuming Obama) would replace them, either.
All of this, though, is a cart before a horse. Should I stay or should I go is something I ask myself each day. The South is part of my own history. There is much to be done here, but I am tired. Day after day, this is something I struggle with.
Just my two cents.
Full equality* throughout the land will come when those of us who live in red states (whether by choice or job or other circumstances) persuade enough of our neighbors (now generally indifferent if nto outright hostile) to recognize us as human beings deserving of all the rights of citizenship.
Women didn’t get the vote from enlightened states only (hell, the last state legislature to approved woman sufrage was Tennessee), and it wasn’t only people of the North who succeeded in ending segragation in the South.
Change has to come from within the toughest places to bring about change.
*When we talk about “equality” we’re talking mostly about a legal construct but not necessarily a practical status. Lord knows, there’s still lots of racial and gender discrimination in this country, and neither will ever entirely vanish.
I work for Durham County. I WILL lose my benefits for my family if this passes. And if it does, My highly paid partner and myself will take our considerable talent and move out of this godforsaken hellhole. I suggest you do the same, Pam. As for Durham, its government may be progressive, but its population still has a long way to go. I have been harassed on multiple occasions, most notably leaving a screening at the LGBT film festival right in front of the Carolina Theater. When I try to point out that this isn’t exactly friendly territory for gays to “progresssive” straight acquaintances, I get a weird look and “not in OUR Durham” as a response. A great example of why, although polls show differently, we will lose this fight. Our allies pay us lip service, but don’t really get the severity of our plight. So as for me, I’m done with the South and its bigotry and racism and homophobia. Look out NY, here we come!
I’m a wimp. I would leave.
That is my first response but you should temper that with the fact that I live and was raised in California.
The state is so crowded, but I’d be hard pressed to leave.
Even things like the fact that since we can be on the same car insurance, after all these years one car is basically free because, hey, we can get the family option.
Laws won’t change the minds of the haters and bigots, but at least I feel I have some recourse.
Good luck whatever you choose.
(btw….I hate logging in every time I want to comment. Is there a way to stay logged in like I did at original coffee house?)
I did leave! Left Raleigh, NC area 2-1/2 years ago because the mental anguish was crippling me after the PROP 8 disaster. The indifference of friends and neighbors was intolerable for me and my emotional health was deteriorating so decided to move to Connecticut with my partner.
Three major outcomes:
1. My emotional health has drastically improved.
2. My partner and I got married AND it was recognized by our new state.
3. My now husband died 5 months ago, and had it not been for our marriage being recognized by our state, I would have been financially wiped out and my husband’s family from West Virginia no doubt would have come in and tried to take everything.
Glad I left!!!
Pam,
My partner was born in NC and I lived there during high school. We moved to New York and we absolutely love it. Here is the truth. You will not live long enough to live in a state of equality in NC. So all your life, you will pay taxes to a state that does not see you as a full human being. You deserve so much more than that. Respect yourself. All GLBT folks who can leave states that discriminate against them should do so. lets support the states that support us!!!! We LOVE New York, it is like coming home for the first time ever..
Heritage — down’n'dirty, gut-level HERITAGE — is nothing to sneeze at.
It wasn’t until I was in my 50s that I learned — through a handy-dandy lil’ website called Ancestry.com — WHY Momma was to defensive and “tied” to her home county: She had four generations of her family, including all 4 of her GGrandparents buried in the same soil those people were clearing and tilling since 1820-something!! My investigations led me to discover that two of my GGGUncles signed the county charter in order for the state to recognize its existence!
I am, quite frankly, working toward getting BACK to that area — maybe even my childhood home, if all works out — and let THEM know that, if anybody’s going to be leaving, it won’t be ME!! I’m not only back where I “came from,” I’m back where I BELONG!!
And I defy anybody to dispute that.
I’m thinking this question is a bit premature. There’s still a chance of this amendment being voted down by the public after all.
Pam, I distinctly remember you talking about the possibility prior to the midterms.
We’re at a cultural time in this state that many LGBTs are socially out, and professionally closeted.
I can understand why that might be the case in North Carolina but I know of more than a few examples of that here in Chicago.
This is a toughie Pam and I don’t know what to say.
I’m in Illinois now (and have been for almost 20 years) but I’m from Michigan. and my family would like me to come back to Michigan more…here is part of the reason that I don’t.
I would not even consider moving back to Michigan unless Mom had a catastrophic illness or possibly an employer that paid me really really REALLY well and that had all sorts of LGBT prrotections.
I miss Michigan. A lot. Especially at this time of year; the foiliage in Michigan at this time of year is unparallelled (and I’ve been to New England, so I can make this comparison fairly).
I think that what’s ironic about this is that not too long ago Pam was crowing about how a majority of Americans support gay marriage. She has REPEATEDLY suggested that having politicians support gay marriage can be done with NO political cost. She is STILL even dragging out polls saying that most people in NC don’t support this.
Yet there is panic EVERY TIME, this issue is put before the electorate. Its as if Pam and the other activists don’t really believe their own hype about the polls. Or maybe they just put them out there to make themselves feel better and pretend that voters really support their position.
Pam knows full well that voters will, by a wide margin, support banning gay marriage. Just like they have support banning it every place where it has been put to a vote. This all of this stuff about polls and the American people suddenly supporting gay marriage is just wishful thinking. At the end of the day, they don’t support it…you know it and I know it. Its not helpful to pretend otherwise.
Guess what…gay marriage is probably going to get repealed in New Hampshire as well. Since the activists have made this issue their Waterloo…to the point of ignoring all other issues…what are they going to do once more of tis stuff starts going down in flames? Given that these same hateful activists have spent ALL of their time attacking Obama, the Democrats and allies, virtually ignoring the conservatives and Republicans…how are they going to react knowing that as with 2010…they helped to elect more reactionary politicians and have actively hurt their allies.
This is what happens when you have a community led by a bunch of spoiled, entitled and impatient fools who neither understand the history of social struggle in America not are able to have a longer view when it comes to progress.
don’t feed the troll.
Stay/go? A poignant question and many poignant responses.
I think it boils down to a total experience, including what one’s coming-out experience was/is as it unfolds in our lives.
Robert Frost says “you can’t go home” and that’s particularly true when you leave it – as many have had to in their coming out experiences, in one way or another.
So to me, it’s a lot about what one thinks “home” is; is it not here anymore? In that case – leave.
If “home” really is here – stay.
There’s no way we ever really get to ignore the struggle, no matter the geo-physical place, as the struggle is really in people’s heads and how that plays out in the influence we can marshall over ignorant policy.
I vote for “leave”. I’m not coming from a LGBT perspective, there are a lot more reasons not to stay. I never wanted to leave the US but now that I’m in Canada I’m looking at what is going on from a different perspective. The US is sinking fast, due in no small part to a tsunami of stupid that Fox and the Koch brothers are driving. There’s no way to stop it, there are way too many willfully ignorant people out there who want to believe this crap, and that evil leftists want everyone to be on welfare, that Obama is a socialist, liberals are too stupid to know that “real truth” (that one is downright hilarious considering the source), teachers are evil, and that health care is not something Americans should have despite what it says in Matthew 25. The inmates are running the asylum and it sounds like the South and central states are the worst. If you don’t want to leave for a place like Canada or Scandinavia there are more progressive states. There’s a difference between fighting the Battle of the Bulge, which was extremely tough, and being part of something that really has no chance no matter how hard you fight. This is more like the charge of the Light Brigade for the moment. That may change in a few years but I don’t think that we should hold our breath and wait for it. A lot of Conservatives are still whining about the New Deal and thought that we shouldn’t have helped Japan after the tsunami because of Pearl Harbor.
Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts. It’s really too complex a question to say yes or no without digging into the details, which is the whole point of having a conversation about it. Not every one is built for activism. I certainly know the toll it has taken on me, regardless of where I live, because of the need to hold down a full-time job to subsidize what I do here on PHB.
One thing that compels me to stay here is the fact that NC is often misunderstood and poorly reported on by people who have no history or knowledge of the politics here. The number of times that I’ve heard the south slammed by Blue Staters is countless. The generalization is so negative that you’d think every person in the south is a toothless uneducated and a redneck.
That’s not what Kate and I see here every day when going to local places. Does it mean Durham is some sort of paradise? Obviously not; there are enough overly-preachy folks who are scared of the diversity and change. Pastor Donald “Faggots!” Fozard with his man/woman statue in the front yard is less than a 1/2 mile from my house. But the fact is that the curtain has to be pulled back to show that the benefits our municipal and county LGBT stand to lose have to be part of the dialog.
Honestly what scares me is the idea of going door to door as we try to start up the GOTV campaign is to be deployed in some bumf&ck county where my car will be spray painted or I’ll be subject to violence. It’s only short drive in any direction to find yourself where the trucks have stars and bars and a gun rack. Those are the people I’d rather not visit; I don’t think any amount of discussion will change those minds.
But I do think the amendment can be turned back, less optimistic because of the May primary as the target. It creates an enormous obstacle.
I personally think it is not a fight worth fighting. I believe in my heart that the amendment will pass, just like it did in every other southern state. Hell, if they are successful in overturning gay marriage NORTH of the Mason Dixon Line, its really hard to believe that gay marriage could ever exist in the south. The only hope we have for the near future is SCOTUS and that is tenuous at best. In the meantime, I’m all for raising all kinds of hell, but the Religious Reich is going to win this one too.
Luckily we don’t have one in North Carolina yet. Everyone has to make whatever decision is right for them should this pass. But if the GOP presidential primary is basically over by the time North Carolina gets to vote (which is usually the case) and if that results in a low turn out, and if our side organizes and mobilizes, we might just beat this thing.
And we went blue in 2008, we might just do it again in 2012 and kick out the bums who gave this enough votes to pass.
But either way, we don’t have an amendment yet, and 8 months from now we might just beat this thing.
My guess is that the folks pushing this amendment would love to see you leave. On the other hand, if companies with non-discrimination policies and same-sex partner benefits for their employees decide to pick up and move, that’s another story.
You know, little companies like Bank of America and Lowe’s . . .
Fortunately, there’s no shortage of jobs right now in NC, so this wouldn’t be a problem. Oh, wait . . .
Here’s a telling tale from my own family’s history. In 1989, as the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) was beginning to fail, and thousands were clamoring to leave the GDR (many in fact did leave), the thing that made the Stasi (Secret Police) and other East German authorities shit their pants was the group of protesters who chanted “Wir Bleiben Hier” (We’re staying!).
The last thing they wanted was an active and vocal dissident movement within their own borders.
Fast forward 20 years, when I was living in redneck rural Florida, the last thing the local religious right group and the local government (one and the same basically) wanted was that someone who disagreed with their philosophy and tactics was going to stay in the area and challenge them. Their response to people who challenged them was, “If you don’t like how we do things here, I’ll give you directions to the road North.” Several people finally asked them why they felt the need to give them such directions.
They shut their noiseholes and actually began to address the very legitimate concerns of those who disagreed with them, often with results that are very unfavorable to their point of view.
So to summarize, the James Forresters of the world do not like to have their views challenged. It’s so much easier to preach to the choir and have no one question them. They assume that’s what they will encounter wherever they go, because that’s all they’ve ever encountered, since they only go to places where no one challenges them. But since Forrester has entered the public realm (really probably for the first time in his life), he will likely have to actually justify his medieval ideas. He will fail. We will not.
Pam this is a great question. My husband and I each have gay brothers and are parents to two little boys. We have had some extensive discussions with these recent developments over whether or not we want to raise our children in a state that supports this kind of hate and discrimination.
Pam, looking back from a distance, the hatred, bigotry, disdain and discrimination faced by LGBT’s in America on a daily basis, the organised scapegoating of us all for political gain, the sacrificing of us for political protection, looks so much more vile and truly putrescent than it did while living daily in the midst of it.
DISCLAIMER: Please forgive me if I ramble, but I have a plethora of feelings to express in regard to this pointless, wasteful, hate-filled amendment.
As grdurham put it:
This is so very, very true. I have (or is it now had?) a close friend who, only two months ago, just up and moved to another state to be with a man to whom she’d only last November called off a wedding. Suffice it to say, he really showed his true colors then, and so we thought she’d moved on in the time since. We were wrong.
The thing is, she’s told us for years that our relationship is the healthiest one she’s seen, next to her parents’. However, she has decided to uproot her entire life to live with (and probably soon marry, but we haven’t spoken since July so I wouldn’t know) this guy, who revealed his true thoughts and feelings about her supposed best friends—us—after their breakup, when he responded to a Facebook poll regarding whether gays should be permitted to marry (how benevolent of our hetero overlords) with a resounding “Hell no!” When she discovered this and told us about it she was rightfully horrified at the time, yet not even six months later decides to make a life with him. Like so many other of our “allies,” she just doesn’t get it, although she continues to claim that she does. (By the way, if they do indeed tie the knot, it will be her third marriage and his second.)
My partner has been expecting this amendment to pass in the legislature ever since the Rethuglicans took office. He, like me, doesn’t expect a good outcome when it goes to the polls. He has also decided to adopt a take-no-prisoners attitude with regard to those who are stupid enough to voice an opinion in support of it in his presence. And this includes his family, whom he presumes will support it, even though they ostensibly are fine with the two of us and treat me as his significant other. He has accepted that when—not if—that happens, he will cut all ties with them.
That’s the thing about it: so many people who are otherwise fine with gay folk will, once they get in that voting booth, let their religious and societal indoctrination assume control and, like automatons, vote against their supposed friends and even family.
Another close friend’s husband has taken to Facebook to express his opinions as well. Since his recent conversion to evangelicalism, he has changed his political leanings to align with two simple criteria: he will only support the candidate who is both anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage. That’s it. That sums up his entire political philosophy. (As in the previous case, he’s on his second marriage as well.) And although it’s her husband who’s expressing this and not my (now former) best friend herself, she is complicit in it. I can’t accept that, so in essence, I have lost two friends over marriage equality.
While some would say that’s too high a price to be willing to pay for mere political differences, I couldn’t disagree more. This isn’t just some ideological divergence, but a matter at the core of my identity and my rights as a human being and a productive member of society. And if they can’t see that, then fuck ’em. I mean that.
Durham’s leadership actually LEADS, which is why I’m proud to be a resident of the Bull City. That its some of its population expresses open bigotry is no surprise; the cultural change is occurring and they are frightened to see, time and again, progressive people elected to office who stand up and pass pro-LGBT resolutions and extended same-sex partner benefits.
They have the same choice I do – don’t like the climate, pack up and leave.There are plenty of regressive counties (usually ones with sh*tty economies) that they can find “safe haven” to be bigots. The leadership in our city has spoken – bigotry will not be institutionalized here (unless “the people” choose to roll it back statewide. That, to me is a sick, but real scenario.