On Friday, CNN news correspondent Roland Martin posted an essay that defended Tracy Morgan. It was posted at 7:55 pm, hours after the comic had repudiated his own hateful words by saying,
“…even in a comedy club this clearly went too far and was not funny in any context.”
Roland Martin took exception to Morgan's decision to apologize, asking why he did it? The title of the article “WTF? Comic Tracy Morgan Has Offensive Material?” goes a long way to giving Roland Martin's dismissive and superficial take on the topic.
Martin starts by acknowledging that people will find a disconnect between his condemnation of Michael Richards in 2006 and his current position of support of Morgan. He provides a pre-emptive strike at the inevitable hypocrisy accusation by saying:
Oh yes, you’ll say, “But Roland, you criticized Michael Richards for using the N-word.” Sure did. What’s the difference? I said then and now that Richards directly attacked an audience member and his use of the N-word had nothing to do with his routine. If it was in the context of a routine, it would not have been received the same.
I will leave it to the reader to decide if Michael Richards using the N-word in the context of a routine would have been received without complaint. Also consider if the context was perhaps a joke about burning down black churches in the south. Please also consider the likelihood that Roland Martin might have felt the impetus to write an essay defending and excusing Michael Richards under such hypothetical circumstances.
Martin includes an odd statement:
Yet whether we want to admit to it or not, it is the DNA of those in the chosen profession of comedy to say stuff that no one could get away with if they weren’t on a stage.
I think we can agree that comics are a unique lot. But chalking it up to DNA seems a little dubious. No, Mr. Martin, I don't think there's anything hard-wired into the genes of comics that renders them incapable of participating in a civilized society that respects boundaries of what is acceptable and not acceptable discourse. Trotting out DNA is a clever pseudo-science hook though to make your point sound smart.
Martin goes on to list a litany of offensive jokes he dug up, some of which do truly push the boundaries of good taste, but it's all just his attempt to distract from this particular incident.
It is a massive effort of obfuscation for Martin to try write off Morgan's remarks as a just another, run-of-the-mill comic offense. Martin even throws in the phrase “par for course.” But, such a framing does serve well to play into a homophobic stereotype that those noisy gays are just always getting hysterical and just have their panties in a bunch over nothing. It's a dog whistle to bigots that will surely draw some to enjoy Martin's take on it.
His basic defense seems to be that no one should be surprised that Morgan was offensive and comedians are always offending people. This might be valid if you believe there is no basic difference between doing a limp-wristed, lispy-voice routine and making a joke about stabbing your own gay son in the face. Same thing, right?
No. Not really. The first is offensive to many in the LGBT community, but also a staple of comedy clubs every night (go out tonight, I'm sure you'll find evidence). The second example, I can't think of anything so extreme outside of a Westboro Baptist/Fred Phelps protest or a National Organization for Marriage sponsored rally.
Does Martin honestly believe that June 4, 2011, was the very first time in 2011 a comic told a joke that offended a gay person at a comedy club? I certainly don't recall any other dustups this year between Human Rights Campaign, Gay And Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, the grassroots LGBT community and the stand-up comedy community. So, this must have been the first time a comic told an joke that the gay community found offensive, right?
Or perhaps the circumstances were indeed, extraordinary?
Comedian Chris Rock can discern the difference between extraordinary and “par for course” offenses. After initially defending Morgan's right to say “foul inappropriate shit” he says he looked back on what was said and concluded, “i get it that shit wasn't called for and i don't support it at all.”
Perhaps the most telling detail into the mind of CNN's Roland Martin is how he chooses to end his defense of Morgan with a quote from Bernie Mac in Kings of Comedy:
“It ain’t what you say it’s how you say it. It’s jokes. It’s fun. But it’s the truth. In the back of your mind, you be wanting to say this shit sometimes.”
“But it's the truth,” and “you be wanting to say this shit sometimes.”
This was Roland's parting message he placed at the end of the essay where every good writer knows it will be the final takeaway for the reader. “It's the truth.”
I really think it falls into full-disclosure territory for Roland Martin to remind folks what he wrote in 2006 in response to Reverend Al Sharpton's appeal to Black Churches to be more accepting of gays. In January 2006 Reverend Sharpton delivered a challenge to Church leaders at the National Black Justice Coalition:
“The black church must not be refuge for those who want to scapegoat and use violence on any community, including the gay and lesbian community.”
But Martin disagreed. He said Sharpton's message would “fall on deaf ears” because rejecting Sharpton's call to denounce violence towards gays,
“isn't being homophobic. It's being a Christian. And no one should have to apologize for that.”
Viewed through this context, it begs the question, does Martin believe that substance of Morgan's rant was also not homophobic, but “Christian?”
Is it Martin's belief that homophobic views are “nothing to apologize for” that led him to ask:
“Why is comedian and “30 Rock” star Tracy Morgan issuing a mea culpa?”
Was Martin moved to express his disagreement to Morgan's decision to apologize because—from the CNN correspondent's perspective—Morgan betrayed “Christian” values by doing so?
It can certainly be deduced that Martin would have no quarrel with Morgan's assertion that gay is a choice and “something kids learn from the media and programming.” Martin himself espouses the idea that gay is a choice that can be untaught. Another full-disclosure detail might be that Martin has a vested interest in reinforcing the idea that gay reparative therapy is effective. After all, his wife has been in the business of offering it.
Martin has tried to deny his association with the practice of gay reparative therapy. When I mentioned it on Twitter, he called me a liar.
@Clarknt67 @CNN Nice try, dude. My wife runs no such program. Never has. But you sure don't mind spreading lies!
Martin was responding to my calling attention to a disclosure he made himself in his own column on February 3, 2006, still online, where he said:
My wife, an ordained Baptist minister for 20 years, has counseled many men and women to walk away from the gay lifestyle, and to live a chaste life.
Emphasis mine.
Max Blumenthal at The Uptake managed to question Martin in 2008 on whether his wife was running a gay reparative therapy program. At first, Martin repeatedly and emphatically denies having anything to do with such practices.
But challenged with evidence of his own column, he admits his wife helped “a man.” And he continues to present it as a singular incident.
(Martin also continues on to say there should a place in the Democratic party for homophobic politicians, just as he has made it his cause celeb to defend homophobia in black churches and, now comedy clubs. Do we see a pattern here?)
Was Martin fibbing in 2006 when he said “many men and women?” Or was he fibbing to Bluementhal and the Uptake camera crew that it was only one man? The facts as relayed by his own statements are contradictory. Perhaps Martin's wife can be persuaded to provide some clarity on behalf of her husband. It certainly seems to be placing him in a position of fielding some uncomfortable questions. How extensive is her work in helping people “walk away from the gay lifestyle?” Was it “one?” Or was it “many?”
How ironic that this same week Martin's colleague at CNN, Anderson Cooper has been doing some excellent investigative reporting on the horrible and debilitating lifetime effect gay reparative therapy can have on kids who are subjected to it.
I hope that Martin and his wife got a chance to watch Ryan Kendall's testimony on his experience at a Christian-based, gay reparative therapy still being run by the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH). Kendall told CNN this week:
[7:10] “What they did hurt me. It tore apart my family, it lead me to periods of homelessness, to drug abuse, to spending a decade of my life wanting to kill myself. It lead to so much pain and struggle and I want them to know, what they do, hurts people, hurts children, has no basis in fact, and they need to stop.”
This on the the heels of Jim Burroway of BoxTurtleBulletin's excellent investigation that the star success story of the movement actually didn't become heterosexual, but did live a troubled life. He killed himself at 38 and his family blames the “therapy.”
Such practices do need to stop.
There is no evidence they are “effective.”
There is much evidence they are harmful.
Whatever methods Martin's wife is using to help people “pray away the gay,” at the end of the day, all such practitioners are selling scared and vulnerable people snake oil. At least, Martin doesn't claim in his column the “many men and women” became heterosexual. No, his wife appears to only offer the promise of a “chaste life.” A lifetime of celibacy. Terrific. The American Dream for the country's Second Class Citizens. Ah, how many of us have dreamed of the day we can grow old and die alone?
Frankly, I wish that Martin, rather than dress his defense up as some sort of principled stance or a facile understanding of the stand-up comedy world, would tell us directly—and not obliquely through quotes—“Tracy Morgan spoke the truth.” I wish he would clarify for us if he disagrees with the substance of what Morgan is alleged to have said. Would he tell us if he considers Morgan's views out of the mainstream, or if Morgan was presenting a valid side to the public discussion of LGBT issues that deserves to be heard by a wide audience of people?
If this is truly what is “in Martin's heart,” why be coy about saying so?
I think if Martin found in himself the courage to say it, we'd find in substance, Martin actually agrees with Morgan's rant far more than he disagrees, and he would have been one of the people in the audience slapping his knee and yelling “Go Tracy!” And this is exactly what provided him with the impetus to write a post defending Morgan; he would like to see more of this type of “comedy.” But unlike out and proud gay and lesbian Americans, Martin doesn't have the courage to speak his own “truth,” so he dressing it up in rhetorical trickery. “Come on, it's what people say!” Martin says. Yes, I'm certain it is what people around Martin say.
Roland concludes:
Maybe none of us want to accept that as a comedian, Morgan is keenly aware of what society actually thinks, and he simply said it onstage.
And, I personally cannot offer disagreement that the rant Morgan said is indeed what many people do think.
As Martin fancies himself as a man of God, I would invite him to do some internal soul-searching. Because the important question in this debate is not so much “Was it wrong for one man to SAY these things?”
No. The key question in this debate is, “Is it right that people should BELIEVE these things?”
Unfortunately, it seems Martin thinks it is right.
I am not the first to call “bullshit” on Martin. Comic
Wanda Sykes piped in on Twitter. She said:
They went on to have a robust and entertaining debate which was chronicled at this AmerciaBlog post. It included references to black face and picnicking at public hangings. And Sykes aptly demonstrated how a talented comic can touch on potentially explosive topics and still be funny, informative and stay out of the national crosshairs.
Martin challenged Sykes on this:
We can do better.
Who is “we,” Martin asked?
It should be noted, Sykes has a foot in a many of the communities that are involved in this debate.
She is a very successful comic, and has a lifetime of experience in the club circuit.
She is an African-American.
She is a lesbian.
She is a parent.
She is a human being.
Regardless which hat she was wearing when she said “we,” she was right. And I think unlike Martin, she's got the cred to speak with authority to this topic.
By contrast, Roland Martin is both a hack journalist and a hack “Christian” and he wasn't defending Tracy Morgan. He was doing exactly what he's always done: defending animus, hostility and hatred toward gay people and he dressed it up with 100% bullshit.





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If Morgan had been white and made effectively the same comments about blacksSomehow, I don’t expect that Roland Martin, Chris Rock and others would be defending him quite so vigorously, or saying that it was all just a joke and why aren’t you laughing at his funnies?
Roland Martin has a point…His assesment is pretty spot on. As has been noted, noting that Morgan said is outside of the scope of the act that he usually does.
Let me know when these same folks that are pissed at Morgan take the time to say something about that RAMPANT, RACIST REACTIONS that this story…as is always the case…stoked up in the white gay community. It really does not take much to bring the anti-black hate to the surface with these people.
When is Pam or someone here going to do a blog about THAT issue? It would seem to me that the thinly veiled racism that permeates many corners of the your community needs to be addressed publically.
Throwing your support to a liar who is involved in gay reparative therapy and thinks jokes about stabbing your gay son in the face is a new high-water mark in your relentless homophobia apologist campaign. But not unexpected.
Yeah, bullshitProbably when certain individuals in your community stops acting like a bunch of fucking infantile children and own up to the shit they say rather than depened on socialogical, psychological, apologist shit to extempt themselves from criticism. And probably when same said harpies treat homophobia as bad a racism and all other prejudices as the same….But that's too difficult to do so, now isn't it?
RENWL?I’d be willing to bet that SciFi geek is Derrick Mathis, the jerk from the RENWL website.
On one hand, GeekI haven’t noticed any overt racist reactions to the Morgan story in the white gay community.
On the other hand, Rod Mccollum had a point in one of his tweets about this when he chided white gays for all of this outrage about Morgan on one hand and the community acceptance of Shirley Q. Liquor on the other.
oops, my apologies GeekI reading through a pretty vile and racist JMG thread now…
But still…it’s not the regulars at that site that’s saying the racist bullshit (unlike the Kobe Bryant incident). seems to be a lot of trolling going on but you’re right, it is there.
Same PostI was just reading JMG, probably the exact same post you are.. and yeah.
Very much like any time Ann Coulter says anything the LGBT and other liberals/progressives will call her a “tranny” etc. in the comments (and sometime the article itself).
And its not just at JMGI’ve read posts on The Advocate, Towelroad and Queerty that would make your skin crawl.
What I find sad……is how little it takes to bring that crap to the surface.
And I mean it when I ask…why doesn’t that warrant a response or analysis from Pam or SOMEONE?
This happens far too frequently to be a fluke, but never gets addressed unless the s**t really hits the fan like it did after Prop 8.
So being upsetabout the idea of a gay teenager being stabbed to death by his own father is just racism. Are you even trying?
I’m more upset at what Roland Martin saidTracy Morgan is just a jerk, okay, one with a voice that carries due to being an entertainer, but still, he really is just a jerk. It did get me that he was “joking” about killing his son if he turned out gay because that’s something I haven’t heard anyone saying for decades. I had assumed that almost no one was thinking or saying it anymore. I should have known better.
But Roland Martin isn’t a fool. I saw him on a video with other black journalists and a man from Media Matters talking about Donald Trump’s birtherism and I thought Martin was sharp and articulate and gave a good account of himself. He’s not in a media profession which he can excel at by being such an idiot.
It’s the three last paragraph of Martin’s defense of Morgan that matter. In the third to last, Martin says, twice, that Tracy Morgan’s anti-gay ugliness is “what society actually thinks”.
The claim that what hate-ridden homophobes think is what “society” thinks was VERY popular among American homophobes in the 1970s. They, the heterosupremacist bigots, were “society”, while we were just a few lousy queers. We faced a solid wall of oppobrium and opposition; we weren’t just confronting some homophobes, we were against society itself! ”Everyone” was against us! That was their message.
When we thought about it, we knew it wasn’t true, because there were a lot of decent straight people even then. Now I can see that when the homophobes made the implicit claim of unanimous straight opposition, they were just trying to bolster their even then insufficent numbers, but then it sometimes seemed there was some truth to it.
Of the two, I think Roland Martin is more dangerous. He actually seems to believe that most fathers would want to kill their sons if they turned out to be gay. I don’t think Tracy Morgan is crazy enough to believe that, which is why he only exposed his true self to an audience in rednecked Tennessee.
I agree, I find Martin actually more egregious.than Morgan.
As I said on Kos:
We’ll never get away from people saying and thinking what Morgan said.
But we can make it more difficult for people to express those views in public, like a big crowded auditorium full of enthusiastic fans.
But Roland Martin opposes such calls for civility, and pretends to do so on some high-minded grounds. When in fact, it seems obvious to be it’s really because:
NO, I really don’t want to be saying “I’d stab a gay kid in the face.” And I really worry about anyone who does want to be saying that shit.
And if Martin wants to say it let him say it himself then.
Rather than use Morgan as a conduit to express his own hate.
The apologists are just enablers of the worst bigotry.
Funny that it’s always the same few gay blogs that people complain about having racist commentersIt’s my experience that when racist gay commenters are being discussed, Towleroad is the blog mentioned most often, followed by Queerty, and then JoeMyGod.
“in the context of a routine”???I’ve been wondering how much of this crud is Morgan’s standard routine, and I guess now Roland Martin has told us. We have Martin’s word for it that this was not just a one-off, gee-I-went-too-far kind of incident. It would appear that Morgan has been spouting the same vile rubbish regularly as part of his “comedy” act. If there hadn’t been a gay person in the audience that night last week who was able and willing to scream about it online, we would never have heard about it, and Morgan would still be happily cracking wise for all the geeks in his audience about how funny it is to stab gay kids.
Actually ….pretending that it was anything other that tracy Morgan’s usual over the top hyperbole is what I have a problem with.
The whole situation is absurd. And now, on top of it, the Advocate is reporting that a couple of lesbians in the audience actually feared for their life….I mean SERIOUSLY! Talk about an overreaction of epic proportions.
Then on top of that all of the racist BS that has bubbled to the surface…AGAIN as a result….to me is the bigger problem.
Three of the main stories on The Advocate this morning were about Tracy Morgan…as if that was the most important thing happening in the LGBT world right now. This reeks of overkill and smells of a really ugly agenda (which should surprise no one that actually pays attention to the “mainstream” LGBT community reaction to anything from a black celebrity.
He said he would stab his son.That is way beyond “over the top”. Do you realize how many LGBT kids actually do have to face things like that from parents like Morgan? Have have been paying no attention to the Kirk Murphy story? Have you paid no attention to the stories here on the blend about children being beaten to death by fathers who were worried that they would grow up gay? There’s a reason LGBT youth are grossly overrepresented in America’s under-eighteen homeless. And that lesbian couple had very good reason to fear for their lives give how the rest of the audience was acting. The only “agenda” here is to say that it is inexcusable for someone to threaten to KILL their own child for being gay. Unlike your agenda which is apparently to use the comments of a minority in the gay community to deflect from someone who said, on stage, that he would murder his own son for being gay. The body count is still growing and as long as you’re trying to protect the people causing it, you’re part of the problem. You should be ashamed of yourself.
secondary effectRep. West fired an intern for a sympathetic tweet WRT the Tracy Morgan rant.
FYI, FWIW.
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/…
It was from the actual Representative’s accountCongress people manage their social networking accounts very closely (with good reason, look what can happen, re: Weiner). Regardless of what content the intern retweeted on Rep West’s account, that’s a very serious offense for him to retweet ANYTHING without permission. I can’t say that it’s out of line to fire him. I probably would have too. A Congress man can’t have a loose cannon on staff that can’t be trusted to follow rules.
He just plain doesn’t have the right to “speak” on behalf of the Representative without permission.
(If an intern had access to the reps official account password, one presumes he was trained on the protocol of using it. If not, Rep. West needs to get on that.)
Point taken.The medium, not the content. Still, it’s interesting how many ripples that rant generated.
This.I think Morgan was trying to see how deliberately over-the-top he could be to get a reaction, and went way too far, rather than actually expressing his genuine opinions. While that certainly needed to be called out, Martin’s defense of those affected-for-shock-value attitudes as if they were genuine is much worse.
I’ve analyzed that on a few occasions, Geekand, as I’ve said, many of the comments on this specific incident seems to be organized racist trolling…at most if the blogs, I am familiar with the “regulars” and the non-regulars.
But you know, you’re full of shit too because you’re throwing our racism as a strawman in order to defend Martin and Morgan, as if homophobic bigotry from black men is acceptable. Yeah, some of those comments at the gay blogs make my skin crawl but…then again, some of the intense homophobia at black blogs makes my skin crawl too. Are you OK with that?