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Are these right-wing “Christians” simply going off of the rails at this point, trying to prove that they are so far from the mainstream that they need to be in a padded cell? (TPM):
Bryan Fischer, the “Director of Issues Analysis” for the conservative Christian group the American Family Association, was unhappy yesterday that President Obama awarded the Medal of Honor to a soldier for saving lives. This, Fischer wrote on his blog, shows that the Medal of Honor has been “feminized” because “we now award it only for preventing casualties, not for inflicting them.”… “So the question is this: when are we going to start awarding the Medal of Honor once again for soldiers who kill people and break things so our families can sleep safely at night?”
“We have feminized the Medal of Honor,” Fischer wrote. He also quoted General Patton: “Gen. George Patton once famously said, ‘The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other guy die for his.’” (Actually, Patton doesn’t say anything about the other guy: “The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.”)
Hmmm WWJD about this crazed man?
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I can’t stand that trope…
I can’t stand it when people like Fischer pull this crap in response to any variation from their imperialist model of the military. Yes, people enlist hoping to defend their country, family, etc. — but that doesn’t mean that any ill-advised invasion ordered by politicians and generals is a use of our troops’ efforts towards that end. The “kill ‘em all” model that Fischer thinks is more “honorable” than actually saving lives ends up making us less safe, not more. Yeah, a large portion of the job of the military is to kill people — but it’s to kill people when not doing so would mean more death and suffering, not to kill people to satisfy Fischer’s nationalism and second-hand bloodlust.
A blantant lie of courseSalvatore Giunta did kill at least one enemy and wounded another.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/…
I know what would really chap his hideThe Congressional Medal of Honor has been given to a conscientious objector, someone who served in the military but refused to take up arms in any way.
Three times.
Desmond Doss, November 1, 1945
Thomas W. Bennett, April 7, 1970 (posthumously)
Joseph G. LaPointe, Jr, December 16, 1971 (posthumously)
All three of these “cowards” faced severe enemy fire to rescue their comrades. Two gave their lives in doing so. They were honored because they valued human life, something that, apparently, no real man would think worthy of his masculinity.
Bryan Fischer is… I don’t have the words. “Blithering ignoramous” doesn’t even begin to come close.
So sadthat he doesn’t see the issue with using ‘feminized’ as a perjorative term. There is nothing wrong with females.
My question…My question is, in which war did Brian serve, and what experience does he have for making such a slam against the highest military honour our country can bestow?
Bryan Fischer is RIGHT! Give the MOH to the Stryker Brigade Murderersbefore they have been court martialled and cashiered out of the Army and imprisoned, so you had better hurry because that photo of one of them holding the head of a civilian that he had murdered and smiling at the camera may well have sealed all their fates
The Medal of Honor is for Honor, not body count.Its given to those who serve selflessly above and beyond the call of ALL duty. To put themselves in harms way so thier fellow man can survive.
The ….ignorant fuck doesn’t even know WHY its given. Thank god that means he’ll also never earn one either.
Many risk their lives to save peopleThe Corps of Engineers Sappers have frighteningly high casualties from chasing down IED’s and booby traps to save other soldiers; every time there is a troop movement the Engineers have to lead, ‘riding point,” to do route clearance
Want to tell the Sappers that their heroism is ‘feminised,’ Bryan? Want to see just how long you last in a bar in Schweinfurth when “Tony and the Doc” and some of the other men of the famed 9th Engineers are finished “correcting your misinformation?”
Want to explain that to the Sappers from Charlie Rock of the 37th Airborne Engineers at Ft Bragg, Bryan, the men who withstood the Taliban offensive in Afghanistan in 2007 in Partika? The Sappers who cleared the routes to reconnect the eastern regions, saving soldiers lives, carrying out their missions under fire?
Would you like to expain that to the Special Services Sappers of the 173rd Airborne, Bryan, just back from a horrendous tour in Afghanistan? Friends blown up before their eyes over and over again in faulty International trucks as they went out to defuse booby traps, find mines, and save soldier’s lives?
Feminised?
They died bravely Bryan, dealing with an invisible enemy. Men, and Women too Bryan, because the esprit feminine is an indominatable thing. But I know that you didnt mean it as a compliment. You meant to say emasculated, something like the gutless hate driven spoutings and demands for rivers of blood that come from the pulpits peopled by cowards,…..ummm…people like you, Bryan.
To the Sappers of the United States Army Corps of Engineers:
Brave men and women, every day that you do your work, you deliver another mother, father, husband or wife from that secret nightmare that lurks in our subconscious, the fear of having to meet a loved one’s remains at Dover AFB. We treasure you all, we keep you in our prayers, we honour your bravery, the true Christ-like bravery of risking and all too ofter laying down your lives for your felllow human beings. Blessings to you all, and may you be kept safe. We will deal with the loathsome Bryan Fischer on all your behalf.
This.I may have my issues with most of how the U.S. armed services are used, but there are always portions of it that represent the best of what everyone thought they were signing up to do. Misuse of the military has a terrible cost in lives of civilians and soldiers alike, and turns the U.S. into an imperial power that encourages negative responses. The people who go in and disarm the explosives, repair the infrastructure, and just generally focus on saving and improving lives (civilian and military), though — we need more of that.
He never servedNone of these blood thirsty banjinxed gobshites ever served. None have seen friends blown apart, none have tracked blood on decks strewn with carnage, none have had to write letters to families.
Well, these examples of Bryan’s “Feminization”……are dying at an alarming rate; we are critically short of combat engineers. Is bleeding because half of your torso has been blown off a “woman thing?”
Lemme get this straight…Conspicuous bravery and gallantry in the face of the enemy has a gender? And it requires destroying of lives and property, rather than achieving victory by defeating the enemy?
Service personnel have earned the Medal of Honor for diving on grenades, capturing prisoners, and obviously saving lives…
These things keep soldiers in the fight to push forward toward victory. Victory: you know, where the war ends, peace is made?
Pvt. Scheisskopf here isn’t even a competent battle tactiction, let alone strategist, if he doesn’t understand that.
Sheesh
Clearly.Real men only die after slaughtering at least 50 unarmed non-combatants — that’s real honor. Dying to actually protect people is too close to maternal protectiveness, and thus less manly than dying for the sake of pure nationalism or sheer psychotic rage.
It may not be that. He probably doesn’t know what “honor” means, that would preclude him from knowing why it’s given.
PS, Maura you are again awesome!
Just a cranky Soldier’s mom, Menaand a former naval officer.
Thanks, love…
Talk about insecurityThis dude’s taken it to the level of psychosis. Not to mention dishonoring those troops they’re always on about ‘supporting.’
‘Unit cohesion?’ They want to support this by calling it ‘feminized’ to put one’s life on the line for comrades?
Only thing ‘feminized’ here is the sanitized Patton quote.
A nasty thoughtI’m hoping someone has forwarded this disgusting piece of filth to the Congressional Medal of Honor Society, so they can sue this disgusting bastard and his equally perverted organization for defamation of character.
Done!Here’s the email I sent to the Society:
Recently, Brian Fischer, who is the “Director of Issues Analysis” for the American Family Association, currently besmirched the honor of all those who have been awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, especially those who saved the lives of civilians or their comrades, rather than kill the enemy, calling them “feminized”.
Here’s the link to Fischer’s perverted blog: http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogP…
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi…
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/…
I believe the Society, on behalf of all of those who sacrificed their lives to save others who were awarded the CMOH should denounce and possibly investigate legal action against this disgusting human being and the perverted organization whom he works for!
Marlene Bomer
What it says ON THE MEDAL“For Valor”.
Nothing about body counts.
Just, “For Valor”.
I watched a two part tv program some years ago on one of the cable channels, about those awarded the CMOH.
The living Medal holders, to a one, all said that they didn’t see why they had been awarded the Medal. They didn’t do anything that any other soldier/sailor/marine/airman wouldn’t have done in the same circumstances.
The program then described what each of these people did.
Breathtaking acts of heroism under fire, almost always to save a fallen comrade or to protect others.
Somehow, I can’t see Fischer risking his life for anyone, for any reason.
Right thought, wrong word.The bowdlerized Patton quote would more aptly be called “bastardized” for both accuracy and irony.
Odd to consider sanitizing a quote to be feminine behavior in this particular thread (or in this crowd, for that matter.)
His life?I can’t see Fischer risking his lunch for anyone, for any reason.
Me, neither.I sure don’t sleep any safer at night when people in my own country want to train soldiers to hate me and have some great bloodlust.
Well, that’s why I put it in quotes.
I simply found it ironic that he was screaming for more blood and testosterone while making Patton sound like Ned Flanders. :)