Send appropriate “thank yous” to Rick Santelli

I’d add…You didn’t get mad when the President convinced the media to stop reporting on war casualties and stop showing pictures of returning caskets.
You didn’t get mad when the President took more vacations than any President in history, and continued doing so when we went to war.
You didn’t get mad when the Administration took a budget surplus and ran it into the biggest deficit ever.
You didn’t get mad when you found out that all the reasons used to manipulate the Congress and the public into supporting the war were lies or misrepresentations and you didn’t get mad when you found out the Administration new it at the time.
You didn’t get mad when the President set up protest zones miles away from his events – where was the concern for the First Amendment then?
You didn’t get mad when pundits, media figures, and elected officials declared that simply disagreeing with the President about anything constituted Treason.

Some of us didI am a Tea Partier.
I did get mad at almost all of those.
I don’t care at all, in the slightest, that the president is black.  It’s not “neat”, “empowering”, blah, blah, blah.  He’s a person, he has black skin, get over it.
I chose not to have health insurance, because it was too expensive for me to really justify it.  I feel this way about many things – a Ferrari, for example.  Can I get one if I really want to?  Sure, of course.  It’s  just not worth it to me.
When the US Government uses the force of law to tell me what kinds of health insurance and services I can must obtain, and forces me to do business with a private company, and implement it using procedural tricks, I get really mad.
Insurance companies are scumbags – why should I be forced to do business with, and be a customer of, anyone?

Oh please,you absolutely know very well that they take instructions on what or who to be mad at, these are lemmings for god sake.

All very well and good….
…until one admits how much further Obama has polluted those waters from which one appropriately pulls indictments of Bush.
Supreme Court stopped a legal recount … Yep, outrageous, undemocratic, dishonest….kinda like Obama’s fighting in court to keep discharging gays and denying us marriage equality…as well as refusing to obey a Circuit Court judge’s order re Karen Golinski and her wife for which Lambda Legal is suing him.
“Patriot Act” …Yep, but Obama has defended it in court, too.  
“illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us… 800 billion (and counting) on said illegal war”…Yep, but BOTH wars are Obama’s now…and he’s only telling half the truth just as shamelessly as Bush would when he brags about reducing “combat troops” in Iraq while failing to mention the increase in US-hired armed mercenaries and their attendant cost.    
“torturing people”…Yep, except Obama’s order re torture explicitly only bans it in relation to people captured in “armed conflict” which would not include, e.g., one of our black ops groups torturing someone wherever they grabbed off the street or one of those Guantanamo detainees from Pakistan and Afghanistan whom foreign bounty hunters literally sold to us for $25,000 a piece. … And wasn’t he going to close Guantanamo?    
“didn’t catch Bin Laden”…Self-obvious…unless Obama plans to unveil him at the next White House Easter Egg Roll.
“10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current account deficits.”…Uh, wouldn’t go there if….    
“the filthy rich….job creation”…See Obama’s buckling to Wall Street pressure and job numbers.    
“health insurance”…Well, there are those who say Obama surrendering to the insurance industry the “public option” [even as he said he was still fighting for it] betrayed millions of Americans and will end up costing the country more than the status quo.  
“a black man…right…doctor…sick“….Oh, please, enough with the “It’s just racism” meme. They pilloried Hillary for trying to accomplish the same thing in the early ’90s and she ain’t black.
Bottom line: Even if he weren’t perpetuating some of Bush’s sins, or failing to correct them, we elected an extremely bright, informed guy who doesn’t have the abilities to sell the good he’s allegedly trying to do while an ignorant, tongue-tied cretin literally got away with murder.
I’d say you’ve taken the wrong lesson from that.

AgreedObama and the Democrats let the Tea Party asshattery drone on and on and on and on with no response.
I also agree (and have for some time) that even though there is a lot of racial animus behind many of these Tea Party attacks, a lot of it would have happened were Hillary Clinton in office and a lot of these people are the same asshats that tried to derail Clinton.
Of course, Clinton had the benefit of a great economy (which didn’t stop the teabaggers of the 1990′s) and FDR went through the same thing to a certain extent…and I do get tired of those who feel that the Big Bang of politics happened on November 4, 2008 as if Obama is immune to all historical precedent.

You may choose not to have health insurancebut when you get really sick, you’ll end up in the Emergency Room, the most expensive place to give medical care, and the US TAXPAYER will have to pick up your bill…you selfish cretin!
Get off your lazy ass and pull your own share you freeloader!

I am very happy for youBecause if you truly see health insurance as a luxury on the same level as a Ferrari–and one that you could afford, no less, but simply choose not to buy–that means you must have cash reserves of about a quarter million dollars. And that’s the size of the medical bills you could be looking at should you incur a catastrophic illness or, say, get t-boned by a drunk driver who blows through a stop sign.
If you don’t have that kind of money and don’t carry at least some basic medical insurance, you’re playing roulette. As has been pointed out, emergency rooms have to treat you regardless of your ability to pay, which means the rest of us end up paying for you through jacked-up hospital rates that–voila–get passed along in the form of higher insurance premiums.

the democrats didn’t get mad eitherat least, not mad enough to do the things necessary to undo the damage.  
if obama was half as decisive and bullying as GWB was, and if democrats were half as decisive and bullying as the republicans are, we’d all be much happier people today.  the sad fact is that a destructive and ignorant minority party is still calling the shots and setting the tone of the discussion in this country, and the resulting policy.  why the fuck they are even relevant at all is something that only obama seems to understand.    

Another two…You didn’t get mad when Bush signed into law the Medicare Part D prescription drug benefit, essentially a giveaway to drug companies that former comptroller general David Walker has called one of the most fiscally irresponsible policies in the country’s history.
You didn’t get mad when the American Society of Civil Engineers lowered its assessment of the state of the nation’s infrastructure to a D, even though the crumbling of the country’s infrastructure will seriously drag down the country’s economy in the future. But you sure got mad when we passed a stimulus bill that, despite its flaws, at least attempts to address the problem.

Those things could all be saidOf a hell of a lot of non Tea Partiers who did nothing, either.
Did you ( the generic you) rally for the things you believe in, did you speak up in public for and against what you think is right and wrong?
Are you passionate about being a free citizen, asserting your god/goddess/I’m-not-if-there-is-a-god given liberties as an equal person?
Did you let others speak for you, rather than speak for yourself?  Did you let your voice be silenced in the din of partisan chewing of the freedom in your bones?
The Tea Parties, as they have evolved, now are operating in the spaces between liberty, freedom, and citizenship.
Did you let detritus fall into those spaces?
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance, folks.  We all did precious little.

You didn’t get madwhen Bush decided it was better to throw away excess embryonic stem cells than it was to use them to develop cures that would help millions of people.

And she can still chooseBut if she has a high enough income and no religious excuse, she will have to pay for the health infrastructure that has to be provided.
But her last sentence is valid: There should have been a public option. Of course, the conservative Democrats and Republicans are too “serious” to consider such ideas.

Thank you…ALL of you, for pointing her illogical analogy out to kathrin–although I doubt she’ll accept it.   The thing is, regardless of whether there is a single payer system or it’s “every man for himself” (as the current system is set up), we ALL end up paying, in one form or another, when one of us gets sick.  So why not have a security net that works for everyone and leaves the healthcare-for-profit model in the dust?  

Give it a rest, Alvin. Bush is gone, now our enemy is Obama. Nothing is going to make us forget Obama’s and Congresses long list of betrayals, wars and the daily tongue baths they give the rich, the Pentagon and the bigots.
Nothing is going to make us forget the retention of the Democrats DADT and DOMA and the dumping of ENDA.
Nothing is going to make the 15 million unemployed, the homeless and those forced to take wage and benfit cuts forget that Obama and the Congress refuse to help them.
Vote for socialist or AFL-CIO Labor Party candidates, write in the legendary Athenian RIOT DOG, or join the millions tired of being duped and sit it out.  

Better than a public option:Eliminate the insurance companies altogether and make the entire health system public. Matters of life and death shouldn’t be a for-profit business.

I will die first.but when you get really sick, you’ll end up in the Emergency Room, the most expensive place to give medical care, and the US TAXPAYER will have to pick up your bill…you selfish cretin!
You don’t know me.  Don’t judge someone you’ve never met.
I have an ethical code I live by.  It is more important to me than even my life.  This is why (for example), I have been in situations where I risked life and limb to help another.
I will not show up at the emergency room and just shove the cost on to another.  Ultimately, taxes are taken at the barrel of a gun, and I have no right to compel another to pay for the cost of my decisions.
I will die first.
That being said, children are another matter.  Asking them to make such a decision is unreasonable.  I will be adopting soon enough, and you better believe that I will keep them insured, but I will try my hardest to pay our own way.  It is not the job of someone else to take care of my kids.
For what it’s worth, I don’t mind a public option that is non-compulsory.  Competition is healthy in a free-ish market*, and running healthcare as a non-profit could make a lot of sense.  Removing the profit incentive would drive down costs.
We’re not all nuts, really
* You don’t want a truly free market.  Fraud, for example, is detrimental to an efficient market place.  When transactions are voluntary (no corporations running government, for example), and people are informed, things move forward.  To enrich myself, I have to offer you something you want more, and we both benefit.  Some regulation actually makes us more free.

Who said it’s a luxury?I am very happy for you
Because if you truly see health insurance as a luxury on the same level as a Ferrari–and one that you could afford, no less, but simply choose not to buy–that means you must have cash reserves of about a quarter million dollars
I don’t, but suppose I did.  Would that somehow invalidate my decision as “non applicable” to most of the country?
I can afford insurance – small business health insurance (2-50) is shall-issue, and there are states where it is affordable.  I can get a plan that is rather good in NJ for around $3-400 a month.  I did for a while.
What do you think people did before health insurance?  Is it really impossible to believe that people might choose to live like that now?

The Tea Party is fundamentally selfishLook at the list of things they didn’t get mad at.  Everyone is an offense against good governance, ethics toward others, responsible leadership, etc.  Basically, every item on the list is based on reason and empathy.  What are Tea Partarians pissed about?  They might pay more in taxes.  They might pay more for health insurance.  They might have to be around people who don’t follow their religion.  It’s all about them.  The “me” generation has started to show its power.

Don’t overgeneralizeYes, many tea partiers are dyed-in-the-wool Christians.  That being said, the nutjobs are the ones who tend to get the press (like any third party).
Some of us are militantly athiest, and think that churches should be taxed like any other corporation.  Just like any other corporation, they could deduct their charitable expenses.
Run a church like a business, get taxed like a business.  Run it like a charity, get taxed like a charity.
Why are we pissed (even if some of us can’t articulate it)?  How about:
1) Massive deficits (which Bush started, but Obama is trucking along)
2) Massive bailouts
3) An unsustainable fiscal policy
4) Massive unfunded liabilities which will result in fiscal insolvency, a severely devalued dollar, extreme tax hikes, and/or radical and immediate cuts.
5) Being compelled using force of law to be the customers of private corporations, or facing penalties for failure to do so.
Let’s avoid the straw man arguments, shall we?  For one thing, it’s hardly selfish to not want your taxes raised when you are having a hard time making ends and taking care of a family as it is.

Well said!Thanks to whoever wrote it … and thanks for sharing!

I’m sure that will work out well for you.

Please point out the ones who are not nutjobsChristine O’Donnell, Joe Miller, Sharon Angle, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Ken Buck, Carl Paladino, …
When the Teabaggers started demonstrating against Obama less than 3 months after he got in office, even though he lowered income taxes for over 95% of workers, I can’t accept that taxes are their real agenda.

Then why are you oppose thing people that CUT taxes?People having a hard time making ends meet are NOT bringing home $250,000 a year. Everyone else got a tax CUT from the Democrats. yet the tea partiers swear that their taxes have been raised to new heights. Despite their hysterical fact free rhetoric…taxes are at their lowest point in history. But please, feel free to provide us evidence of these “extreme tax hikes.”
While we are talking about taxes…you cannot on the one hand complain about taxes while simultaneously complain about deficits. The reason we have a deficit is that the government refuses to collect enough in taxes to fund its spending. Again, taxes are absurdly low relative to the amount that the government has to pay out. And yet even with that the government CUT taxes.
On your other points…ALL of those started before Obama even took office.

They could choose to, but few willAt one time, something over 150 years ago, countless thousands of people loaded up what possessions they could into rickety ox-drawn Conestoga wagons and headed out over a couple thousand miles of completely untamed frontier with barely marked trails, full of hostile Indians, wild animals, and merciless elements, and they did it not only without any kind of health insurance, but into a world without any kind of doctors, hospitals, or even the existence of effective ways of treating infections.  Yet, fears of getting sick or injured never held them back.  Such a thing is utterly unfathomable in today’s America.
In today’s America, we have a culture that (falsely) assumes that medicine can fix pretty much anything, and a belief that medicine must fix everything it can.  We don’t view medicine for what it is, technology created by smart people working in labs in hopes of making a profit, but instead view it as something between a necessity and an entitlement.  When someone is sick or injured, we no longer see the sickness or injury as threatening their life, but rather the lack of healthcare as threatening their life.  When someone dies, it’s the fault of inadequate treatment and not the illness they suffered from.
So in that, Kathrin, you are both technically correct and practically wrong.  You don’t need health insurance, if you are willing to accept the standards of care and the expectations of treatment that existed before the development of modern medicine.  If you are of the mindset that injury and disease happen like weeds and medicine is a way of dealing with it like weed killer, then you may see health insurance as a luxury every bit as much as weed insurance might be.  If you are prepared to accept both the circumstances of health fate throws at you as well as pocket the cost of however you choose to deal with it at the time, health insurance is utterly superfluous.
But there are other realities in this world, and one is that we live in a culture, and a part of that culture (right or wrong) is the collective belief that if medicine exists to treat a condition, anyone with that condition is entitled to it.  You can condemn the attitude as false, but its existence is something we must contend with.  That attitude is largely responsible for the massive run-up in the cost of medicine.  It has both spurred the creation of new medical technologies and treatments and also led to the exploitation in pricing making even simple care much more expensive.  That attitude has expressed itself in the legal system in malpractice litigation and the ensuing cost of malpractice insurance.  Cultural attitudes are a reality that at some point must be dealt with.
In that sense, universal health insurance plans are aimed more at addressing our cultural relationship to healthcare than they are aimed at dealing with the healthcare itself.  Without some sort of governmental intervention dealing with the unhealthy relationship between our culture and medicine, healthcare will eventually have devastating consequences on our economy as a whole.  Is the object to provide health care to people who don’t have it (addressing the cultural expectation of entitlement to medical technology), or is it to provide a more economical method of getting healthcare to people who would otherwise tax the emergency room system (addressing the costs of cultural expectations more effectively).  Either way, it’s dealing with the realities of our culture.

teabaggers also tend to be almost exclusivelysuburban or rural dwellers.  they are getting the largest amount of return on their federal taxes than any urban area in this country.  the amount of tax money being funneled out of urban areas in order to fund their lifestyles is outrageous.    

You are either lying or deludedYou are in a major car accident. Do you really expect us to believe that you would rather bleed to death on the street than allow yourself to be taken to an emergency room? That if you are unconscious and get taken anyway, you will check yourself out and die at home rather than cost the American tax-payer any more than you already have? Really?

You clearly implied it (Ferrari)And you can live that way. You just have to pay the tax for health care infrastructure.

Do you have property?Do you own anything?  Use any public infrastructure?  You’re part of the system — you’re benefiting from some of the major functions of government.  Why should healthcare be different, when it’s something that governments seem to do far more efficiently than the private sector?  (And I mean “seem” based on real-world evidence rather than selectively evoking fake a priori arguments.)

You said it’s a luxury.You equated health insurance with a very expensive car that in no way can be construed as necessary to your and, by extension, your family’s health and well-being. You said you could get one if you really wanted one, but you don’t think it’s worth the expense; so not necessary = luxury. At one end of the scale, health insurance provides you with affordable preventive and non-acute care that will keep small issues from becoming major life-threatening and very expensive issues down the road. At the other end of the scale, it provides you with catastrophic care that costs you more out of pocket than your yearly physical and flu shot, but that will be manageable and, by the way, allows you to keep living. In other words, necessary = not a luxury.
And if you’re adopting kids, you kind of owe it to them to get yourself to an emergency room rather than bleeding out on the ground out of principle if you have a mishap with a chainsaw or something.

Who really created the Tea Party?Let’s not forget that the Tea Party is basically a creation of Fox News, especially Glenn Beck.  It’s been well documented that Fox News gets a lot of financial support from the republican party.
Fox News was Bush’s lap dog during his presidency, always faithfully “on message” with whatever his administration was doing.  
So of course those who are now known as Teabaggers weren’t getting angry at all of these things.  When these things were taking place, they were drinking kool-aid, not tea.

Don’t forget the Koch brothers.The initial funders for the Tea Party were everyone’s favorite astroturfing specialists…

Thanks Kevin for the references which led me to rediscover a remarkable historical fact re FDR’s first midterms….

“We have done things that some folks don’t even know about.” – Barack Obama.
“What have you done that we don’t know about? Are you planning a surprise party for us, filled with jobs and health care?” – Jon Stewart.

Most would disbelieve my ability to set aside all of my incurable anger over his betrayals regarding the ban [and various other LGBT betrayal stocking stuffers], but I am. His remaining virtually mute last year while the cockroaches that have been with us always morphed into a third party/took over the already hideous GOP and use of the largest majority in both houses in 30 years in the words of Eric Alterman “as if it was 50-50″ or less don’t just disappoint me, they scare me as ruthless demagogues like Boehner approach official power.
Which brings me to the ludicrous-even-at-the-time magazine cover no doubt handcrafted by Time’s equivalent of Newsweek’s Obama hagiagrapher Jonathan Alter:

A recent CSM article tries to deconstruct the “myth” of FDR’s accomplishments, noting, however much in a vacuum, that, pre-WWII unemployment remained higher than it is now. Some will also find it hard to believe that I wasn’t alive then, but, whatever else, there appears to be agreement that FDR’s greatest achievement, pre the war, was calming America’s fear and despair, while Obama has failed.
From a recent article by David Woolner of the Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt Institute:

In spite of his overwhelming success in the Presidential election of 1932, there was no guarantee that Franklin Roosevelt would lead his party to victory in 1934. Then, as now, it was something of a truism in American politics that the party in power in the White House would lose seats in the mid term election. Moreover, 1934 was the year that the arch right-wing and left-wing reaction to the launch of the New Deal would begin to coalesce around a variety of newly formed “populist” organizations that claimed to represent the will of the people. It was in August of 1934, for example, that a group of hardcore conservative democrats and republicans – financed by some of the most prominent names in American business – formed “The American Liberty League,” (See: “The Tea Party Movement: Successor to the American Liberty League?”) an anti-government, pro-market organization that accused FDR of leading the country down the path of a socialist dictatorship. …and of course the vitriolic attacks of Father Coughlin, the the so-called radio priest, who by 1934 was calling FDR a Marxist whose government had fallen under the sway of “internationalist bankers and financiers.”
There were other rumblings, too – that both Mussolini and Hitler were in power in Europe, and that FDR was stealthily leading the country into a Fascist dictatorship. Some even equated FDR with the two European dictators….
By the middle of 1934, most Americans understood that the partial economic recovery achieved under Roosevelt in his first 16 months in office had brought the immediate crisis to an end. Indeed, national income rose by over 20 per cent in 1934, but given the unprecedented depth of the economic collapse, the country still had a long way to go.
FDR knew that in spite of this marked improvement, millions of unemployed Americans (with no unemployment insurance yet in place) continued to suffer. He knew that this suffering left them in a state of fear and uncertainty about the future, and he understood that he could not take the 1934 election for granted. He had to get his message out to the people; to counter the fear mongering tactics of his so-called populist opponents. On June 28, 1934, he set the tone for the electoral season by giving one of his famous fireside chats. Here he asked the American people to reflect on whether or not they and the country were better off in June of 1934 than in June of 1933:
“a few timid people, who fear progress, will try to give you new and strange names for what we are doing. Sometimes they will call it Fascism, sometimes Communism, sometimes Regimentation, sometimes Socialism. But in doing so, they are trying to make very complex and theoretical something that is really very simple and practical.
I believe in practical explanations and practical policies. …that what we are doing today is a necessary fulfillment…of old and tested American ideals.”
In addition to the radio, FDR also hit the road, making a mid-term election campaign swing in August of that year that would take him through Washington, Oregon, Montana, North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois. Along the way he implored the American people to reject the notion –  advocated by the American Liberty League and others – that the way to recovery was for the repeal of all laws, state or national, that regulate business. To do so, he said, would be to return the nation to the “old law of the tooth and the claw” so that once again the “unregulated wild-cat banking of a century ago could be restored; that fraudulent securities and watered stock could be palmed off on the public; that stock manipulation which caused panics and enriched insiders could go unchecked.” FDR had faith that the American people would reject such a vision, because they believed as he did that “sound economic improvement comes from the improved conditions of the whole population and not a small fraction thereof.”
In the end, FDR’s efforts paid off, for Tuesday November 6, 1934, was a huge victory for both him and his party. Most political analysts had predicted a loss for the democrats; democratic optimists said that the losses might be small or the party might break even. Few predicted that the party would actually gain seats, rising from 313 to 322 in the House and from 59 to 69 in the Senate-giving the democrats in the latter body the widest margin ever held in the history of the Republic. Having achieved the seemingly impossible, FDR went on the launch the “second New Deal” which gave us some of the most important social and economic reforms in our nation’s history, including Social Security and unemployment insurance.
The circumstances in which President Obama finds himself today are not exactly like those which confronted FDR in 1934 (President Obama, for example, has had to deal with a more recalcitrant and obstructionist Congress, thanks in part to the disappearance of liberal and moderate republicans). But the mood among the electorate – symbolized by rise of the Tea Party – is not unlike that of 1934, where apprehension and uncertainty gave rise to bigotry and hatred.

Would Obama barnstorming sooner have made a difference? Perhaps. But his weekly radio/Internet address is more like leaving the refigerator door open than “fireside chat.”
In short, Obama is going to have stop whining about not being understood or appreciated enough and rekindle and maintain his own fire or we will lose more than the House in 2012.

Factors in its origins are only important as tools to fight it…
…which Obama is doing a piss-poor job of doing.
They’ve been winning the rhetoric war for over a year, today they and their coconspirators will win the House, and it’s only going to get worse unless Obama gets off his whiny ass.

uhh… an Emergency Room is for EmergenciesYou can never tell when you will be in one. Going to one is expensive, I know I’ve been there a lot due to a heart defect. Each time, the bill was $2,000 or better.  
Then I got a better paying job, one with really good insurance. It covered getting my heart fixed. That bill was $40,000.000. Yeah, that’s not cheap. But my insurance covered all of it but $120. Me getting my heart fixed wouldn’t have happend at all unless I had the $40 grand in hand or insurance. They don’t do that surgery for free.
So, the day comes when your health fails you expect me to pick up the tab. Oh, wait, you have ‘moral conviction’ and you’ll die before ….yeah, right. Once they say “we’re gonna code’em” your moral conviction will take a back seat to survival.  

Actually, I got mad a long time ago.>When Bush spent a surplus buying Americans by sending out $200 and $600 gifts. Buying votes more like it.
>When every Intel agency told him that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and he said there were and we had to go, cause they done did his daddy wrong! (durn tootin!)
>and more, way more.
….actually, he really pissed me off when he cut me off in Islamorada driving his dad and brother Jeb around. The guy is a very bad driver and a jerk behind the wheel.  

Speak for yourself, DonalObama is not my enemy. And strangely enough, neither was Bush. The point is to point out the hypocrisy of the tea party movement. And I will no longer play the parity game anymore. By that I mean saying things like “While I’m not happy with how things are going, Obama is still . . .” because I am very happy with Obama as President, period. Regardless of how things are going against him.
Eugene Robinson has written an excellent piece about the tea party which is so simply as to their anti-Obama ire. It’s the basic reason that we all know but NO ONE will admit to – http://www.washingtonpost.com/…

Health Insurance1.) Your “Code of Ethics” would be worthless if you faint and are unconscious. Someone may see you and call an ambulance. You can be admitted into a hospital without your consent if you are in no position to give or deny it and they will give you treatment that they believe to be something you (who they don’t really know) would consent to.
2.) You said you will be adopting children, are you prepared to risk leaving them orphans again if something treatable but expensive should happen to you?
I’m just curious as to if these dilemmas had ever crossed your mind. Maybe catastrophe insurance wouldn’t be a bad idea, I mean, not something fancy and expensive, but just something that puts an affordable cap on any life-saving emergency care that may come up?
I sincerely hope you never get a large kidney stone.
My wife had one of those that was too big to pass on its own. It was exceedingly painful. She couldn’t coherently answer questions, she just writhed in pain until they gave her three different very strong IV painkillers. If we had refused medical care (it ended up costing over $30k, but the insurance paid for most of it thankfully) she would’ve suffered for months and then died a exceedingly painful death after her kidney died, atrophied, and poisoned her system. She’s 25, and except for that one incident, she’s as healthy as a horse, eats right, works out, etc.
If that were to happen to you, would you force your children to watch you suffer for months and then die, or would you teach your children that money is the most important thing and shoot yourself to escape the pain because you cannot afford surgery, and risk them finding your body?
(note to everyone else: I apologize for how tl;dr this comment is)

The Tea Party movement ishypocriticalbut so are at least some of the people pointing out the hypocrisy of the TPs. So are at least some / many of Obama’s supporters.
If you are very happy with Obama as President, period, then you should have very happy with Bush as President, period. Were you? Did you vote for Bush?

Some people have no problem with Obama’s anti-GLBT bigotry, war and mass unemployment…
More of us do and that’s why people are waking up to the realization that Obama, the Bushes and the Clintons are our enemies.
Some think the Democrats retention of DADT and DOMA while dumping ENDA is OK. Most don’t.
A few people are agreeable to Obama’s policy of killing and wounding a few thousand more GIs and a few more tens of thousands of innocent civilians to make the world safe for Haliburton and BP. Increasing numbers of people aren’t.  
And I can guarantee you that the 15 million long term unemployed, many homeless. living in Obamavilles in dire poverty, don’t have good feelings for Obama, the Bushes and the Clintons.  
The fact that racists infest the Teabaggers (and the Democrats and the Republicans) is no excuse for mass unemployment, mass murder of muslim civilians and homohating bigotry and you know it. You can’t blame the anger of trade unionists, antiwar GIs, GLBT folks, immigrant workers and the unemployed on Teabag racism.  
The Tempo with which Congress changes hands, even though few have any faith in the Republicans, the swift drop in support for Obama, the contempt that many hold for Congress and the widespread dissatisfaction of those who voted for Democrats in ’08 are all signs that the ability of the two parties of war, bigotry, racism and economic chaos are losing their ability to dupe people.

“because I am very happy with Obama as President, period.”
There’s one in every crowd….and village.

and further …You would be willing to die and leave your child(ren) without a parent?

Wrong on several counts as to the facts, I’m afraid.1. Obama has already cut the deficits marginally – in a recession, no less.
2. What, you mean the Bush bailouts? They were proposed, voted up, and signed into law before Obama ever stepped foor in the White House. Why are the TEAbaggers so unhappy with him, then?
3. Which Obama’s changing as best he can – but Rethuglicans get in the way at every opportunity.
As to 4) and 5), I concede the points.

Which would probably dump them into state careFurther burdening the tax-payers.  

We need microchips for the voluntarily un-insuredWe need implanted chips (like lost pet microchips) for those who choose not to be insured so that when they are unconscious and unable to pre-pay for emergency care, the emergency personnel know when to stop or to even start
Possible transmissions:
* Stop when you have depleted my bank account (current balance is $115)
* Un-willing to pay for any medical coverage; please just shove me out of traffic and go on with your pathetic, unfree, but health insured lives
* Hier to Multimillion dollar fortune. Flog the body for all it’s worth. Throw in a face lift while you’re at it.

The public options was killed by the RepublicantsPoints 1 – 4 were all pre-Obama – where were you then?
As for Point 5, the public options was killed by the Republicants
So how does giving the baton back to the Republicants solve any of these?

Well…You didn’t get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.
Bush won. Multiple independent recounts completed in the years since have confirmed that fact. Get over it.
You didn’t get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq .
Democrats voted unanimously to send us to war. Twice. And Democrats have approved every spending bill to keep our troops there since.
You didn’t get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.
Plame lied. Journalism died.
You didn’t get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
Of course we didn’t. We wrote it.
You didn’t get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.
We invaded Canada?
You didn’t get mad when we spent over 800 billion (and counting) on said illegal war.
Shame to have all those really cool weapons and not use them.
You didn’t get mad when Bush borrowed more money from foreign sources than the previous 42 Presidents combined.
Actually, that’s kind of what started our getting mad.
You didn’t get mad when over 10 billion dollars in cash just disappeared in Iraq.
Yes we did.
You didn’t get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
Yes we did.
You didn’t get mad when Bush embraced trade and outsourcing policies that shipped 6 million American jobs out of the country.
Yes we did.
You didn’t get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.
Yes we did.
You didn’t get mad when we didn’t catch Bin Laden.
Yes we did.
You didn’t get mad when Bush rang up 10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current account deficits.
Yes we did.
You didn’t get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
Yes we did.
You didn’t get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans drown.
Yes we did get mad — at the Democrats that ignored 30 years of warnings that the levies were inadequate. We got mad at the useless governor who blocked Federal assistance. We got mad at the useless mayor who refused to evacuate his city. We got mad at the useless Democrat emergency management officials who didn’t HAVE an emergency evacuation plan. We got mad at the useless Democrat citizens who sat around waiting for their useless Democrat officials to save their useless Democrat butts. We got mad at those same useless Democrat citizens who re-elected the same useless Democrat mayor. And we’re still mad that the same useless Democrat emergency management department STILL HASN’T WRITTEN AN EVACUATION PLAN!
You didn’t get mad when we gave people who had more money than they could spend, the filthy rich, over a trillion dollars in taxbreaks.
No, because those rich folks are our employers. The money they don’t send to the government in taxes is what we call “pay checks”.
You didn’t get mad with the worst 8 years of job creations in several decades.
Because we don’t live in the Democrat-conrolled states where all those jobs were lost.
You didn’t get mad when over 200,000 US Citizens lost their lives because they had no health insurance.
Red herring. Every hospital in the United States is required to administer life-saving health care to all patients, regardless of ability to pay. Look it up.
You didn’t get mad when lack of oversight and regulations from the Bush Administration caused US Citizens to lose 12 trillion dollars in investments, retirement, and home values.
Oh we got mad — mad at the Democrats who have been in control of the institutions that CAUSED the financial meltdown. We also got mad at Bush for not taking action in his first term when Barney Frank’s fraudulent schemes were first uncovered.
No…..You finally got mad when a black man was elected President and decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick.
No, we got mad when Democrats pushed through a multi-trillion-dollar boondoggle using parliamentary tricks against the will of an overwhelming majority of the American people. We got mad when 10′s of thousands of people starting LOSING THEIR HEALTH CARE BECAUSE OF THAT BILL. And we’re mad because DIMWITS LIKE YOU STILL HAVEN’T READ THE DAMN THING!
And we’re mad because DIMWITS LIKE YOU STILL THINK IT’S A BLACK THING!
IT’S STILL THE ECONOMY, STUPID!!

Allow me to refute your silly points one by one1. You didn’t get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.
Bush won. Multiple independent recounts completed in the years since have confirmed that fact. Get over it
Let’s see those multiple recounts.
2. You didn’t get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq .
Democrats voted unanimously to send us to war. Twice. And Democrats have approved every spending bill to keep our troops there since.
Everyone, including the Democrats were lied to about weapons of mass destruction. And come on, who in their right mind will turn down spending bills for troops in war?
3. You didn’t get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.
Plame lied. Journalism died.
You are gonna have to do better than that. How did Plane lie? And if there wasn’t any wrongdoing by the Bush Administration, then perhaps you should set up the “Scooter Libby went to jail for nothing” fund.
4. You didn’t get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
Of course we didn’t. We wrote it.
The Patriot Act was definitely a demonstration what Beck always accuses Obama of doing – taking away our freedoms. How ironic that you don’t have any problems with it.
5. You didn’t get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.
We invaded Canada?
How was Iraq a threat to us? It had no link to Osama Bin Laden or Al Qeda.
6. You didn’t get mad when we spent over 800 billion (and counting) on said illegal war.
Shame to have all those really cool weapons and not use them.
Cool weapons? That remark was both callous and cruel. You wanna repeat that line to the families of those who died? How about Pat Tillman’s family?
7. You didn’t get mad when Bush borrowed more money from foreign sources than the previous 42 Presidents combined.

Actually, that’s kind of what started our getting mad.
I missed the protests, marches, and tea party expresses to Washington.
8. You didn’t get mad when over 10 billion dollars in cash just disappeared in Iraq.
Yes we did.
Again I missed the protests, marches, and tea party expresses to Washington.
9. You didn’t get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
Yes we did.
Once again I missed the protests, marches, and tea party expresses to Washington.
10. You didn’t get mad when Bush embraced trade and outsourcing policies that shipped 6 million American jobs out of the country.
Yes we did.
Nope. Again no protests, marches, and tea party expresses to Washington. I think this would have been a perfect time for some of those “I want my country back” primal screams. Those seemed not to have taken place either.
11. You didn’t get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.
Yes we did.
You all were using the Jedi mind trick to show your anger, weren’t you?

12. You didn’t get mad when we didn’t catch Bin Laden.
Yes we did.
You must have been communicating your anger to each other by a huge mind meld, like the Borg on Star Trek.
13. You didn’t get mad when Bush rang up 10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current account deficits.
Yes we did.

That must have been when you all started writing ugly letters to each other rather than protesting and marching in Washington.
14. You didn’t get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
Yes we did.
Let me guess. You didn’t protest or go to Washington with signs during this time or any of the other times? You sure you all got angry?
15. You didn’t get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans drown.
Yes we did get mad — at the Democrats that ignored 30 years of warnings that the levies were inadequate. We got mad at the useless governor who blocked Federal assistance at every level. We got mad at the useless mayor who refused to evacuate his city. We got mad at the useless Democrat emergency management officials who didn’t HAVE an emergency evacuation plan. We got mad at the useless Democrat citizens who sat around waiting for their useless Democrat officials to save their useless Democrat butts. We got mad at those same useless Democrat citizens who re-elected the same useless Democrat mayor. And we’re still mad that the same useless Democrat emergency management department STILL HASN’T WRITTEN AN EVACUATION PLAN!
Yes it was the Democrats who told Michael Brown, “you are doing one heckuva job, Brownie.” And a lot of those people were either unable to move because they had no transportation or was in the hospital or in nursing homes. But those “stupid people” deserved to die, right?
16. You didn’t get mad when we gave people who had more money than they could spend, the filthy rich, over a trillion dollars in taxbreaks.
No, because those rich folks are our employers. The money they don’t send to the government in taxes is what we call “pay checks”.

Standard silly line about rich people. You sound like you live in a feudal society. I love the world you live in where rich people should get big tax breaks but people in nursing homes should be left to die in a flood because they are too stupid to get out.
17. You didn’t get mad with the worst 8 years of job creations in several decades.
Because we don’t live in the Democrat-controlled states where all those jobs were lost.
So only states controlled by Democrats had high unemployment? South Carolina had an unemployment rate of of 11.5 in August. Didn’t know the Republican governor Mark Sanford was a Democrat. Georgia at the same time had an unemployment rate of 10.3. Who knew the Republican governor at the time, Sonny Perdue was a secret Democrat. Need I say more?
19. You didn’t get mad when over 200,000 US Citizens lost their lives because they had no health insurance.
Red herring. Every hospital in the United States is required to administer life-saving health care to all patients, regardless of ability to pay. Look it up.

So you don’t refute this fact, you just call it a red herring. And imply the notion that if these people die, it’s their stupidity. According to a 2002 study -
* Uninsured people with colon or breast cancer face a 50% higher risk of death.
* Uninsured trauma victims are less likely to be admitted to the hospital, receive the full range of needed services, and are 37% more likely to die of their injuries.
* About 25% of adult diabetics without insurance for a year or more went without a checkup for two years. That boosts their risk of death, blindness and amputations resulting from poor circulation.
But it’s okay as long as those tax breaks for the rich keep coming, huh.
20. You didn’t get mad when lack of oversight and regulations from the Bush Administration caused US Citizens to lose 12 trillion dollars in investments, retirement, and home values.
Oh we got mad — mad at the Democrats who have been in control of the institutions that CAUSED the financial meltdown. We also got mad at Bush for not taking action when the fraud was uncovered.
Bush was President at the time, but it was the Democrats’ fault. That makes sense. Whatever happened to the “buck stops here?”
And you really need to read up on the healthcare bill. If you have already have healthcare, you won’t lose any of it. And I would oppose the bill too if I were told lies about death panels. But check the polls again. People like the bill. Also, the bill was passed fairly. No tricks.
And I think it’s a black thing because of Mark Williams and those lovely racist tea party signs.
My friend, you really shouldn’t have bothered to answer. If your aim was to defend the tea party, you failed. Your comments, especially the ones about the “cool weapons” demonstrate the real tea party – a group created by resentment and so cowardly that they can’t even admit their own prejudices so they wrap it up in jingoism and phony patriotism. Sad.

One more thing“multi-trillion-dollar boondoggle”
Dude, you seriously have to stop quoting Sarah Palin.