crossposted on Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters
(this is a piggyback on a post published yesterday by Pam)
According to People for the American Way, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council told NPR that gay teens are suicidal because they “know that they are abnormal:
“There's no correlation between inacceptance of homosexuality and depression and suicide,” he says.
Rather, Perkins says, there is another factor that leads kids to kill themselves.
“These young people who identify as gay or lesbian, we know from the social science that they have a higher propensity to depression or suicide because of that internal conflict.”
Homosexuality is “abnormal,” he says, and kids know it, which leads them to despair. That's why he wants to confront gay activism in public schools. For example, his group supports the Day of Truth, when Christian high schoolers make their case that homosexuality is a sin.
But Perkins is wrong and the strangest thing is that his own words prove him to be a liar.
Remember that piece he wrote which was published in the Washington Post on National Coming Out Day? A portion of it said the following:
There is an abundance of evidence that homosexuals experience higher rates of mental health problems in general, including depression.
Media Matters said the following:
Perkins links to a February 2002 American Psychologist article, which reported on the “results of several breakthrough studies are offering new insights on gay men, lesbians and bisexuals.” While Perkins is right, “Several studies suggest that gay men, lesbians and bisexuals appear to have higher rates of some mental disorders compared with heterosexuals,” he's totally wrong that these rates have nothing to do with discrimination. In fact, the article immediately goes on to report that “[d]iscrimination may help fuel these higher rates.” The article reported: “In a study that examines possible root causes of mental disorders in LGB people, [Susan] Cochran [PhD] and psychologist Vickie M. Mays, PhD, of the University of California, Los Angeles, explored whether ongoing discrimination fuels anxiety, depression and other stress-related mental health problems among LGB people. The authors found strong evidence of a relationship between the two.” Several other studies back up this finding.
So while Perkins claims that there is no correlation between unacceptance of homosexuality and depression, he has no problem with distorting research that says just the opposite.
And it's not the first time he has done this.
According to Gay and Lesbian Medical Association's Ten Things Gay Men Should discuss with Their Healthcare Provider:
Depression and anxiety appear to affect gay men at a higher rate than in the general population. The likelihood of depression or anxiety may be greater, and the problem may be more severe for those men who remain in the closet or who do not have adequate social supports. Adolescents and young adults may be at particularly high risk of suicide because of these concerns. Culturally sensitive mental health services targeted specifically at gay men may be more effective in the prevention, early detection, and treatment of these conditions.
Me citing this piece is important because Perkins actually used it in 2009 as a part of his testimony in front of Congress in opposition to ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act). Endnote five of the printed testimony clearly says:
Evidence for the negative health consequences of homosexual conduct is available even from pro-homosexual sources such as the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association. See their “Top Ten Issues to Discuss with Your Healthcare Provider” online at: http://www.glma.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Page.viewPage&pageId=586&parentID=533&nodeID=1
He used the GLMA piece to talk about the so-called negative behaviors associated with homosexuality, omitting of course how homophobia plays a part in these negative behaviors, particularly depression – which was something the piece made abundantly clear.
Tony, allow to paraphrase something for you:
It's better to be thought of as a lying homophobic bigot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Related post:
Why can't the religious right stop denigrating gay suicide victims?




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Nasty piece of workPeople like Tony Perkins and groups like the Family Research Council are some of the reasons I finally gave up on Christianity back in 1992.
Letter to NPRTo: Barbara Bradley Hagerty
Michelle Norris
Re: Religious Undercurrent Ripples In Anti-Gay Bullying
http://www.npr.org/templates/s…
Dear Ms. Hagerty and Ms. Norris,
I am writing with concern over the recent airing of Tony Perkins’ statements with the contention that there is some “social science” with regard to the reasoning behind Gay Youth Suicides, in so much that it is caused not by the external pressures from society, but from internal feelings of hate and self worthlessness. He is wrong.
There is authentic science of a non-religious and professional perspective specifically to the contrary from the American Psychological Society and from the American Psychiatric Society, confirming that significant oppression in gay youth factually comes from external sources, to which I contend Mr. Perkins’ religious beliefs and actions contribute.
Would you please invite credible representatives from either or both of these organizations to your program so that they might provide valid information to your audience, and so that your audience might be afforded the opportunity to consider factual science as opposed to particular religious perspectives.
Thank you for your consideration, and I will be listening for your responses.
Email NPR
http://help.npr.org/npr/includ…
Call NPR
(202) 513-3232
This is such an important point. It’s victim-blaming by those who CAUSED the harm in the first place.I’m glad you’re taking this up, Alvin, because the truth about this needs to overcome all the lies they tell.
But this piece is a damp squib, sorry. Make your point more forcefully–the science showing that homophobic discrimination depresses people. Bring numbers, studies, proof that back it up, focus it on this one clear, sharp, bright point: We suffer not from what we do to ourselves, we suffer because of what the homophobes do to us. Make them stop it, and we’re good.
They’re adding insults to the injuries they’ve given us. Blaming the victim.
You did quote from a study, which is the way to go, but I read through the piece twice searching in vain for the clear, powerful facts that will drive the point home.
The writing in your piece lacks focus and doesn’t convey the urgency and importance, nor does it support the point you and I want to make. I want our arguments to be spoken loud and clear, resounding around the world. This piece just mumbles.
Yes, assholes like Perkins are liars. Not only that, in fact, they’re damned liars. Perkins and his ilk shoot us in the guts, just for being ourselves. Then they point at us and accuse “See? See? You have a hole in your gut! It’s your fault you got that wound. Obviously you suck!” Or “You wantonly attacked my swinging fist with your nose! You’re a bad person and your broken nose proves it!” First they injure us and then use the fact that we’re hurt against us. There you have it– the classic abuser pattern. “See what you made me do? If you weren’t so sinful, I wouldn’t have to smite you!” Dante probably made a special circle in Hell for people who pull that shit. I am filled with white-hot RAGE over this and am itching to bash back.
Alvin, keep putting out the truth on who is truly to blame here for the pain we are made to suffer. Bash back–hard.
A pamphlet from HRC, Resource Guide to Coming Out, made this point succinctly and clearly; I’d like to quote from it to illustrate what I mean. Under “Reference: Myths & facts about GLBT people,” it says:
That shows how it’s done: Tell the truth point-blank and show up the liars for the abusers they really are.
OK, I take back what I said about your writing.After my outburst I felt calmer and re-read your piece. You did make the point that needed to be made, and you supported it with factual evidence. I apologize for calling it a “damp squib.”
If I’m experiencing anger management issues, it’s because RAGE is sometimes the only antidote to feeling crushed down by this depression. Rather rise up, take the war to the enemy, and take no prisoners. If my only choices are a) to feel crushed down; b) to rage, I’ll take b) every time. Because at least you can accomplish actions fueled by rage. Depression is pretty much useless for accomplishing anything.
It doesn’t matter that TP lies.He’s still allowed to say whatever he wants in the media without being challenged. First WaPo in a as a guest columnist in a Faith Opinion where he talks pubic health and now this.
‘customartist’s” letter to NPR is way too polite. Don’t forget that All Things Considered recently had antigay Fischer on too.
Stating the Obvious?Let me see if I understand this…
Someone took the time to write a report to tell us that a bigot is a liar.
This is what I call a waste of time and energy that distracts us from the work we need to do.
I vote to NOT waste time promoting what we already know.
Alvin was right to say this.We have to shine the light of truth on these lies that are literally destroying our people. The truth is our best self-defense. They can’t handle the truth. They shrink from the light like the vermin they are.
What we are missingSeattle, this is the point.
WE know it but who else does. Sometimes there is a bad perception that just because we know something, it is a widely known fact. You would be surprised how many in the public don’t know this stuff about Tony Perkins. Heck, many in the lgbt community don’t either. And that’s where we get tripped up. What Perkins does is a part of a carefully laid plan to demonize us and if we don’t break that plan down, we don’t make any steps forward. It’s like Sun Tzu said in the Art of War – you must know your enemy.
Yeah, I’ve seen you cross post on huffingtonbut huffington loves to bury a lot of stuff (I can find you as a rule Alvin but only because I know where to look)
I’m also on alternet.org tooThey are a bit more cordial because they have less celebrity bloggers. lol