This is beyond predictable. “Just dropping by” is not something that just happens at the White House. There really is a sense of flopsweat in the air. At this rate the administration is going to bring in the Netroots to “shoot the breeze” with the big guy to try to save face with a week before the midterms. (The Advocate):
President Barack Obama dropped by a White House meeting Tuesday of pro-repeal advocates who were convened to discuss the prospects of moving “don’t ask don’t tell” repeal before the end of the year.“The President stopped by to directly convey to the participants his personal commitment on this issue,” said a White House official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.
Yawn. FAIL. Again. This song and dance is really tiring at this point. Metro Weekly’s Chris Geidner:
A person outside the White House familiar with the meeting agenda told Metro Weekly that there were three main points the White House was looking to impress upon attendees: (1) President Obama was pushing for lame-duck Senate action, (2) there would would more meetings up to the vote and (3) executive options are not being looked at right now.
Since the terms of the meeting excluded any discussion of the legal DADT cases in the queue, talk revolved around legislative solutions only. That makes Robert Gibbs’s answer to the legislative question today quite telling.
“The only way we’re going to get something through the Senate is to change the vote count,” Gibbs said. “You’re going to have to get past a promised filibuster in moving to the bill.”Asked whether the White House was doing any contingency planning for the “very real prospect” that the legislative avenue would fail, Gibbs noted recent steps taken by the Pentagon to limit the number of people who can approve discharges but ultimately failed to outline any alternatives to legislation.
No plan, no fallback plan either. Sound familiar? How many times can Lucy jerk the football away from Charlie Brown? DADT is alive and kicking, and it will be after the election — and in 2011. That means the President and HRC didn’t deliver as promised. That is something no one will forget. The ineptitude and lack of a plan, as well as the gross use of the LGBT community is just plain sad.
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BTW, here is the portion of today’s press briefing with Robert Gibbs related to DADT:
Q Is the President expecting repeal legislation on his desk by the end of this year regardless of what happens at the polls next week?MR. GIBBS: That’s our hope. Again, our desire and our hope and the President’s commitment is that he will work to see this pass. This is — look, we are — we’re approaching the beginning of December, which is when the Pentagon’s study of implementation and of the attitudes of the military will be complete. And the President believes, continues to believe, that this is a law that — the end of this law — that time for the ending of this law has come.
The courts are signaling that. And certainly it’s been his political belief going back — when I met him in 2004, that was his position.
Do you have a — we might have covered it, but go ahead. (Laughter.)
Q No, no. Of course not, of course not. Two quick questions. Any sense of what that report looks like? Has anyone in the White House had a chance to see some of the prelims of that DOD report?
MR. GIBBS: Not to my knowledge. The last time I heard about this, nobody in this building had seen that, no.
Q And in terms of contingency planning, I know this is your favorite subject, but, look, there’s a very real possibility this doesn’t go through. I know you guys want it to, I know that’s the meeting today. But if it doesn’t go through, I mean, is something like stop-loss on the table? Perfectly within the President’s authority, by the way, during a time of war.
MR. GIBBS: I think that — look, you’ve seen steps that have been taken over the past several days at the Pentagon involving service secretaries. You have for — you have a sitting chair of the Joint Chiefs that believes it’s time for this law to end; the President working closely with the Secretary to make that happen.
And our efforts in the short term will be focused on the durable repeal of a law that the President thinks is unjust, and that’s where our focus will be.
Yes, sir.




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Sometimes I think I may be too cynicalNah.
Because things like this happen. Muted words and no action – except to fight against repeal in the courts.
I fear our community will fall for this and think he actually cares. From the leaked email sent to activists:
How chilling is it that we now know Obama is counting on Joe Solomnese’s help to “figure out” how to pass this in the lame duck. Consulting on a cocktail party? He’s got it covered. Outfoxing McCain’s filibuster? Not so much.
Equality…is just not on their agenda. Founding principles be damned..they just don’t have time to be bothered.
Yeah, see.. (1) President Obama was pushing for lame-duck Senate action, (2) there would would more meetings up to the vote and (3) executive options are not being looked at right now.
1) He’s trying to push this beyond midterms when they don’t have a chance in the senate and their bigoted survey comes out to kill it dead
2) More meetings to control the message and try to bend gay orgs to the lie that they need to pass a “legislative” repeal, using language that doesn’t actually repeal anything, which won’t matter ANYWAY because the bigoted survey will come out and Obama will shrug his shoulders and say “Whelp, the Pentagon says no so support teh troopz!!1!1″. I guess that’s why they can’t talk about the court case that killed DADT dead and why this fraud in the oval office had it reinstated.
3) He refuses to do even the LEAST thing to stop discharges.
Fuck you, Obama, you giant soul sucking black hole of untruths and triangulation.
Deliver results, or STFUDo or do not. There is no try.
OF COURSE, they’ll fall for it….
UNLESS SLDN and SU come forward tomorrow and tell the truth:
But, of course, they won’t EVEN THOUGH his having “dropped in,” on top of the meeting a week before midterms PROVES that our justified anger IS getting through. Imagine what could happen IF they DARED separate themselves finally and completely from Obambots HRC, Stonewall Democrats, Winnie Stachelberg, and Third Way?
this lame duck won’t huntLet’s translate, from the Advocate story, shall we?
He feels our pain.
They will “soley” (sic) envision doing nothing.
Cui bono? Who pays whom?
He suggested that Omar Khadr, poor boy, is getting lonely, and he and his friends in Gitmo might need company.
Which means, if this conversation turns up on Leakywicks dot com, you LBGT lobbyists are off the gravy train!
Thank you, Mr. President.
To quote Dr Maddowon her take on the Obama “plan” to end DADT a couple of weeks back:
And he re-enforces the political creds of Gay Inc.in an attempt to discredit those of us who all closed the gAyTM and are holding out for equality
After the election it will be “look how hard Gay Inc worked with the President to succeed; and the cause was lost by (Spaulding/Avarosis/JMG, etc)” in an attempt to turn the LGBT community back into passive sheep.
Watch it unfold.
It’s just not possible to be too cynical about Democrats and Republicans. They never disappoint.
On Tuesday, November 6th, 2012 vote against Obama and the other right wing presidential candidates.
Actually, that wasn’t a signal
It was an unequivalcal declaration and a mandate to stop the discrimination immediately.
Oh, and any of unsupportive of the President as he runs for reelectionare neutralised by the taint of “causing the 2010 losses”
Theater of the ABSURD … aka “dog & pony” showblah, blah, blah … I can’t hear you!
I can see ACTIONS if there any.
But blah, blah, blah I don’t hear.
DON’T ASK … DON’T GIVE.
btw, I’m really enjoying this Election Time:
– No Phone Calls to Make
– No Precinct work to be involved in
– No walking the nieghborhoods for GOTV
– No $$$$MONEY$$$ to give
– No votes for Democrats who BETRAYED us
DON’T ASK … DON’T GIVE
What a wonderful October and November I’m having!
The very ideaThat Obama could basically end this practice with a pen, or when that “activist judge” found for the Log Cabin GOPs, or with reconciliation. Are we seriously even debating whether this man has our best interests at heart? He has his own issues? He seems very worried about his place in history to me. When it comes to teh gay and especially trans folks like me, he runs away from people who could be his greatest allies. We are simply votes that the Dems have already counted in their column. While I would never vote GOP, my party is constantly breaking our hearts. So damn sad.
Z
To see how bad…Here’s a post on PHB from two years ago.
LGBT Civil Rights Orgs’ Leadership Give Forecasts For LGBT Civil Rights In The Obama Era
Read it and weep.
You must have a crystal ball by Cartier. Or is it just that you understand Democrats? ZoeB @ Wed Oct 27, 2010 at 02:44:34 AM EDT
“A view from 2 years in the future…
ENDA? Stuck in committee. Has been since the vote to pass it out was cancelled at the last minute (the day before it was due) in November 2009. No plans to ever revisit the issue.
DADT? A bill that would give the ability to the Pentagon to do away with it – if it wanted to – after a 1-year study ending just after the elections, that lost cloture and is unlikely to be voted on in the lame duck senate. With the massacre that’s predicted, Dems losing the House and possibly the Senate, forget it.
DOMA. Ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
UAFA. Not scheduled. Maybe in 2020 or so.
Hate Crimes – Obama didn’t veto it! But it’s not being enforced, so is a dead issue.
But it’s not all bad. Would you believe the Log Cabin Republicans won a court action, and a Federal Judge pronounced DADT unconstitutional? Of course, Obama’s DOJ is fighting against it tooth and nail, as they have every other pro-GLBT decision, using language even worse than the Bush administration’s.
And there’s been some crumbs – a few federal employee benefits assigned to all unmarried partners, not just gay ones. And a study to look at giving GLBT partners the right to see their loved ones in hospital, one day.
Now… wasn’t that worse than even the most pessimistic of you predicted?”
Wrong.There sure as hell IS try.
And this ain’t it.
While he’s dropping in….Maybe he should drop by a few of the Senators who are voting the wrong way.
OMG, did Joe Solomonese and others start speaking in tongueswhen The Messenger walked in the room?
Did The Messenger’s very words so enrapture Gay Inc., so amazed they were by his teaching?
I mean, how much bullshit can one be baffled by?
Did the pen fall out of his hand as he was “trying”…to sign that stop-loss order?
Didn’t think so.
Issue the order, or quit telling us how much you just wish you could do something.
Well….
So The Fierce Advocate knows that there is plenty that he can do and he doesn’t have to play stupid anymore?
Why werent’ these executive options placed on the table?
You are truly prescient“At this rate the administration is going to bring in the Netroots to “shoot the breeze” with the big guy to try to save face with a week before the midterms.”
http://www.americablog.com/201…