It’s hard to keep up with the idiocy coming out of this administration, its DOJ and the Pentagon. Look at this development; a memo has been issued as a fig leaf for the uproar created by reinstituting the ban on DADT via the stay of the injunction. (The Wonk Room):
At a briefing this afternoon, officials hinted that they may be pursing a softer approach towards the ban, telling reporters that discharges will now require the approval of the “service branch secretary.” In other words, only four people in the entire Department of Defense will be able to discharge a gay soldier under the policy.
A senior defense department lawyer briefed reporters on Thursday afternoon about the memos, saying, “These two memos are primarily in reaction to … the temporary stay last night. We are clearly in a legally uncertain territory.”
And this:
CNN is reporting that even though the Pentagon still wants the ban repealed through Congress, “they are now looking at other possible ways at which it might be repealed.
Perhaps that is the response to the reality check that DADT repeal via the Def Auth bill in the lame duck session is a non-starter. How the Pentagon can do any kind of about face when the geezers who are worried about the soap dropping and want to wait for the Dec. 1 bogus, freeped study to come out is anyone’s guess. Are gays and lesbians a threat to national security, troop readiness and morale or not? Just earlier today we saw an AP article that made an inference that today’s military, populated mostly from the conservative South and West are therefore bigots and require everyone else to accommodate their homophobia. That in itself is rank regional bias to begin with, but it makes “following orders” some sort of magical trait that is hard to find in service members. The whole matter is so childish. It’s embarrassing.
If there are “other possible ways” of non-legislative, non-executive order ways of doing away with DADT, surely they would have copped to them before now, no?
Look, the bottom line is that this is a PR disaster for this White House. The Dan Choi/Valerie Jarrett CNN appearances made it crystal clear who is an honest broker and who has made a deal with the devil. Gates has had Obama by the short ones for some time now, and it’s completely blowing back on all of them.
When Valerie Jarrett had to sit and watch Dan Choi rip her boss’s DADT reasoning to shreds on international television and tell her not to lecture him, it definitely looked like a game changing moment — the emperor had no clothes, they were set ablaze. Dan Choi said “You’ve Lost My Trust, I Won’t Be Voting for Obama,” that was the political gauntlet thrown down. Jarrett has no response to that; how can this administration restore any trust when it has shown that the LGBT community is merely an ATM to it. We’re strung along and told that the threat of President Palin or Majority Boehner is enough to go back to the rear of the bus and pay up some more, thank you very much.
No equality=no money, no vote in 2012 for Obama says Dan Choi. Now the WH has to wonder how many others have seen the betrayal and will do the same. Now the President and his boss Gates are stuck, and have to gamble whether these half-cocked measures are going to repair the damage.
Nope. No. Sale. Not until the discharges stop and gay and lesbian service members have full equality. This policy should have been done away with in the first two years of this administration and yet we’re still talking about showers, bunks and soap dropping. It’s preposterous. The pressure will continue; we’ve had enough of the lies about what can be done, the motives for the actions that have occurred and the unending drive for cash and scare tactics. No, we will vote — but support only those who support us with actions, not promises – the ones who stick their necks out there, like Rep. Patrick Murphy.




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when Gates and the militarycome up with their plan to allow open service and it involves segregated service in both facilities and career paths, a LOUD CRY should go up telling them that those who are segregated from the others should be the anti-gay bigots.
Let the gays and the straights who do not fear them share the regular military.
Let the anti-gay bigots be put in separate facilities and separate careers where they can be carefully monitored to make sure they don’t cause trouble for the rest of the military. And, if they can’t behave in a rational manner, then discharge them.
Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, Don’t Know?Still some confusion at the Pentagon. ODOJ is fighting us, but Gates’ latest fiat is rather puzzling.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10…
Is this the equivalent of sending the discharges to the Office of Circumlocution?
They know that they have lostTo me this reads as if we have accomplished the first step that we have asked for. We have been very vocal in stating that no matter what else might be going on in the repeal of DADT, it is imperative that the discharges should halt now.
Admittedly it has been several decades since I served in the Army, but I suspect that one thing has not changed. No low or middle level commander is going to want her or his name on a request that is guaranteed to not only be read by the secretary of their branch of the service, but also personally perused by the Under Secretary of Defense. By saying that he wants to hear about each and every case, the Secretary of Defense is saying in essence that he doesn’t want to hear about any case. In effect the discharges have been stopped.
Why the Secretary of Defense felt the need to do this now will have to be explained by someone more knowledgeable than I. One might wonder if the Commander is Chief finally caught sight of a chart listing the chain-of-command in the military? Hard to say.
This is a big deal. My heartfelt thanks to each and every person who has raised their voice, scrawled “No more donations until DADT is repealed, lobbied their congress person, chained themself to a fence or any of the other multitude of actions that we as a community have used to wipe this shameful law from the books. Draw strength from this. We are being heard, and the forces of bigotry are being forced to slither back under the rocks from which they came.
situationthey were caught completely flat-footed by Choi yesterday because it never even crossed their minds that there was anything but good li’l gays who will sit down & shut up.
that’s why they didnt bother engaging anyone brighter than dim bulb Jarrett.
Just watch her blinking into the camera, with no clue how to defuse the situation… hell, she seems shocked that there even IS a situation. that tells you the whole story
Contact the White House It might not have as much affect as any of us would like, but it can’t hurt. After the administration appealed/ emergency stay request I, and friends, sent our displeasure to the white house in clear, but respectful, words. The message was basically the same as what Dan Choi said on CNN.
The thing about taking the time to write something up sends the message that those of us who are not as loud or active feel the same way as those who are. Our frustration about being used and thrown under the bus, the discrimination we encounter with laws like DADT isn’t just coming from the “fringe” or far left but the solid middle of the community. I don’t often take the time to leave messages, I try not to repeat what others have already said on blogs like this but I spend most of my down time getting my news from places like here. And sometimes I am motivated to speak up.
I guess my message here is, for anyone who reads these blogs but doesn’t normally speak, you need to at places like the white house website because the more “average” people who do, the more they’ll believe the message that activists like Dan Choi have been pushing in their faces for the past year.
This is pathetic. The military is running scared of…..admitting that gay people already serve?I’m supposed to have confidence in the U.S. military to “keep me safe” from terrorists while they are so terrified of what might happen if they officially acknowledge that gay people are currently serving in the armed forces that they are running around like headless chickens? I am supposed to feel confidence with these people in charge of defense? These people? Who are afraid of gay soldiers?
How are they supposed to keep us safe from terrorism if they are so scared of gay people the mere thought turns them into blithering idiots?
Christ on a cracker.