People are mourning the tragic suicide of 18-year-old Rutgers University freshman Tyler Clementi; over in Maplewood, NJ, the young life of another person was taken from this earth as the result of a fatal shooting that should also receive your attention. (Maplewood Patch):
The Essex County Prosecutor’s Office reported today that the victim of a fatal shooting in Maplewood on Sunday was Victoria Carmen White, formerly James White. White had legally changed her name to Victoria Carmen following sex reassignment surgery.
The Prosecutor’s Office and Maplewood Police had originally identified the victim as James White. However, as stated in a release from the Essex County Prosecutor’s Office this afternoon: “Following an examination by the Medical Examiner and further investigation, it has been confirmed that the victim was a post-operative transgender female having undergone sex reassignment surgery.”
Looking at the numerous photos of Victoria, I have to agree with Monica Roberts of Transgriot.
Take a look at the photos of Victoria interspersed throughout this post. Does she look like a ‘man’? When are you peeps going to get it through your heads, especially in the law enforcement and criminal justice communities that genitalia does not necessarily equal gender?
There is nothing indicating that IDing her in that manner is relevant to the shooting. Bird of Paradox:
As ever, we are defined by our documentation. However, what stands out in this case is that, even though Ms White’s documentation and her genital configuration matched, the authorities still insisted on misgendering her. For what reason? That’s not made clear, but if I was a gambling woman, I would wager a shiny penny that it’s to do with anti trans bigotry on the part of the County Prosecutor’s office.That a society has such contempt for transsexual women that the first thing it does after we die is attempt to impose on us an identity which isn’t even legally ours, let alone one in which we lived, speaks volumes about the depth and intensity of insensitivity and downright hatred which we face each and every day of our lives.
If the authorities – having insisted we jump through all these flaming hoops in order to be considered the women and men we know ourselves to be – can then so casually dismiss everything about us except that we’ve undergone major abdominal surgery, and that we were once assigned identities which weren’t ours, then what hope do we have of ever being accepted as ourselves, dead or alive?
What is heartening about this senseless crime is that there is a great outpouring of support for Victoria was beloved by friends and classmates.
[Erin] Littles, who became friends with White while they attended Columbia High School together, said, “She (White) always encouraged people to be the best that they can be.” Littles says she was shy in high school, and White wanted to get her out of her shell.White, who was a part of Special Dance and cheerleading at the high school, helped Littles by making her try out for extra-curricular activities. They became more than friends, said Littles-they became family. Littles feels as though she has lost a sister, and the world has lost the heart and soul behind that smile.
Her friend Alanna Carter:
“I’ve never met a more radiant soul. Not only was she extraordinarily strong, she was also beautifully gregarious, kind, sweet, and gentle. I have never known anyone so intent on remaining true to herself. Things were not always easy for her but she never lost sight of the big picture. She loved life and accepted all of its hurdles with grace and understanding. Even though her life was tragically cut short, she cherished every moment, every experience, and perhaps most of all, every single friend.”
There is a touching tribute to Victoria Carmen White here, at Maplewood Patch:



The Essex County Prosecutor’s Office reported today that the victim of a fatal shooting in Maplewood on Sunday was Victoria Carmen White, formerly James White. White had legally changed her name to Victoria Carmen following sex reassignment surgery.
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Thanks Pam…Thanks Pam for helping get Victoria’s story out there.
I can’t see this not being a Hate Crime…..I ran across Victoria’s story earlier on today, via the lovely folk at Transponder-cast. Given the massive outrage that has been sweeping the US, I figured that it was wrong for people not to know about this as well, considering the short time difference and close location to the home of Rutgers University student, Tyler Clementi.
There’s another article available here on Victoria’s murder, though consider yourself warned that it is a tad inflammatory, even though it is accurate.
http://j.mp/aZlagd
A lack of respectThere was no reason to identify her as a man other than to show a lack of respect.
::sigh::
My thoughts are with her family and friends.
Thank you for that linkI absolutely loved it.
Even in death,the authorities treat her with disrespect. What kind of world do we live in?
About time.I love you to death Pam but I REALLY hope you had already planned to post this and that the diary I posted about it right here several hours before this had nothing to do with it. No ill will meant but the whole damned thing just…. I’m seething and I want to break things…. this is just deepl deeply wrong on so many levels that this happened and no one but us gave a shit when it happened.
Yes, that would be the blog that let me know this even happened, .driving me to write the angry diary I wrote last night. I gave her a hat-tip for it at the end. Apologies if I got inflammatory too but this just pisses me off to no end.
Maplewood supposed to be friendlyI have family in Maplewood and from what I understand it is supposed to be quite friendly towards our community. This is really sad to hear.
I’m unsure of protocol in this matter. I’d like to diary this over at the Great Orange Satan, but Pam, it’s your work, and you’ve diaried over there before.
Are you planning to cross-post? Please say yes. If not’ I’ll try to do this story justice, but I’d rather it come from an established dailykos person, I’m kind of a newbie.
I’ve posted it now on DKosHere it is:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…
I suppose, if it comes down to it,that we ought to take a bit of comfort from the fact that they didn’t identify her as “an It,” which frankly wouldn’t have surprised me in the least. Given the nature of our justice system, that practically constitutes enlightenment. Of a sort.
How I want to be remembered (NOT)Yeah, if I die tomorrow, I really want the obit to read (NOT!!!!) like this: “[my name], formerly known as [boy name] died on [date]. HE was survived by…”
All because my driver’s license and birth certificate don’t match. Gotta love the Ohio Dept. of Health and Vital Statistics! (NOT!!!)
R-E-S-P-E-C-T. I want nothing more, but I’ll accept nothing less.
Jenny
There seems to be a lot of anger directed at the news source on thisBut it seems to me that the party who dropped the ball is the police department for releasing a report after only ascertaining the birth name. Unfortunately, once that happened, news outlets were between a rock and a hard place regarding what to report and not to report.
If Victoria was post-op but somehow the police still managed (by fingerprinting or whatever) to attach a male name/gender marker to her, it is absolutely unconscionable and – even putting T politics aside here and just thinking about the legitimate objectives of police work – should possibly be even a terminatable offense to simply ‘go with that’ and not have anyone involved step up and say “Uh…this person has female anatomy but a male name. Perhaps this person is transsexual? So, perhaps there might be another ID out there that (a) we haven’t ascertained yet and (b) might be relevant to the particulars surrounding the death? So perhaps – maybe – we should do a wee bit more investigating before we do a dump to the news media?”.
???I find it quite disturbing they let it be known of her former name first. I am sure she had a ID with her name since she had BC changed etc… I wonder how they knew so quickly to look for the OLD name… UNLESS the POLICE KNEW HER PAST or maybe one of the 2 men she and her cousin met at the cafe that night was officer … Just thinking aloud sorry…If since she and her cousin were together you would think they could find the guys who the went into the apt together with.
From the local paper articles below in order they posted them online at the Mapplewood navigator
http://www.maplewoodnavigator….
http://www.maplewoodnavigator….
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It’s not disrespectIt’s outright ownership. It’s telling all of us that even if we think we can do this, “they” have the final say. We are a threat to the structures that many people rely on to get through their day without being ostracised, excised or merely embarrassed. We pay for their comfort with our lives and that is not just hyperbole.
My condolences to her friends, immediate family and to all of her larger family, many of whom might be reading this.
How do they always get the old name when this happens?Is there some central police database where former names can be looked up easily? Or do they have to go to the county courthouse to search for name change records?
These days you cannot get through life without the weight of your whole past stapled to your back electronically, open to abuse by anyone who can access the files. For trans people that becomes quite destructive.
WowThis (from the third of your links) cries out for an investigation as much as the murder itself does.
Does someone here have a way to nudge this in front of Rachel Maddow? For some reason, I think she’s the only MSM-oid who might have any inclination to look into this.
As for me…
I’m off to find a bookie who will offer odds on the “initial error” and the murder having more than a coincidental connection, such as – maybe – a tranny-chaser cop or prosecutor?
It’s even worse…The prosecutor’s office first only identified the victim as “James White”. Maplewood Navigator Sept. 13
Only later did they put out a new press release “clarifying” that the victim’s legal name was “Victoria White” along with salacious details about the autopsy finding that she had sex reassignment surgery (probably found a prostate gland.) Maplewood Navigater Sept. 14
It would be bad enough if they had given her old name along with her current, legal name on the initial report. Instead they completely ignored what they already had to know was her legal name (ie. the only name on all of her legal ID) and gave only her old name on the first press release.
This had to be a deliberate act of malice on the part of the prosecutor’s office.
Not an “error”As I point out below, there is no way they could have known her former name without knowing that her legal name was Victoria. It was not and could not have been an “error”. It was deliberate.
My point exactly.
A transsexual’s name was erased in New Jersey. We all know why. But what we don’t know is who did it.
That needs to change.
Something besides a chaser i think I Think maybe it was as you suggest a police or prosecutor who didnt know Victoria’s past and then freaked and killed her when they found out … Just thinking out loud on this one.. guess only time an outside ivestigators will ever know what happened… I still wonder why the cousin hasn’t pointed a finger to the two men they were with … I mean they know the last person who was with Victoria don’t they.. are they scared of the police to say who it was .. maybe needs to be dealt with by the feds.
thank you, PamI’ve been upset and concerned because I’m not hearing anything from the local Newark Essex LGBt community regarding any kind of outrage or real concern about Victoria’s murder, let alone the disrespect about the reporting of her gender. I was reluctant into jumping into local issues when there was a local organization in place!
Every one in NJ is up in arms about the tragedy of Tyler Clementi, for which they should be… but NOTHING about Victoria!
Here was a success story of a woman who was happy and had the strength to be at peace with herself, who was accepted and loved as a person by relatives and friends … who was murdered.
As tragic as Tyler’s case was… he did not have the inner strength to stand up to his own truth, he gave up!
Am I wrong in thinking that Victoria’s story is the one that should be told and be embraced by LGBT folks? Was this not a tragedy? Is something not “kosher”?
We’ve seen that situation a few times, now.
First of all, I understand your frustration but I’d respectfully request that you drop the hierarchy-of-death. Suicide among trans people ain’t exactly in the single digits and I’d rather not minimize anyone’s struggles as them simply being too weak to “stand up to [their] own truth”. It’s not always a matter of bucking up, believing in yourself and turning that frown upside down for trans people or gay people. It’s rarely as simple as a single rash reaction to a single embarrassing incident.
Regarding the discrepancy in how the stories were & are being handled…this is not dissimilar to the Constance McMillen / Juin Baize situation. Both stories need to be told. Sadly, only one usually does. We’re not that one.
Transsexual deaths don’t get as much play on pure Gay and Lesbian sites because most of their readership is not Transsexual and don’t consider themselves as being gender atypical. So the news doesn’t get disseminated, rarely makes the front page, and it gets eclipsed by the gay version if there is one even vaguely similar.
We’re sometimes the shameful secret of the LGBT family, the one that blatantly points out that we’re grouped together because ALL of us transgress externally designated societal gender expectations. A lot of assimilationists don’t want to turn on that spotlight, and unfortunately they tend to be the ones with greater media access and ownership. Sure, we get to be in the family holiday picture cards, the ones that show how inclusive the family is, but we’re not always allowed to go to the birthday parties or eat the cake. Not that this is cake.
But, and this is important to remember:
Trans people and especially post-surgery transsexuals are a tiny percentage of those considered to be outside of the norm in their gender story, and by this I only mean that we make up a fraction of the LGBT population. Likewise, trans-indifferent or hostile gays and lesbians and others, those that fly the LGBT banner but stab us in the back with a smile are also a small fraction of the total. Most people’s reactions to this story are the roughly the same; they feel she was probably killed because she was outside the cis-hetro norm and her death was wrong. A few probably think it really tragic, and a few think she might have “brought it on herself”. In the end, based on the scant sentences reported, to most people hers was “just” another hate crime murder in a bad part of town.
Trans people and a few others, however, seem to immediately understand that the damage and violation was continued after her death, and it was done by those sworn to protect and serve all citizens, not just the people like themselves. It’s also likely an indication as to how much effort will go into solving her murder. That should bother us all and should prompt anyone that is LGBT to push the story and ask why the police and prosecutor’s office felt the need to claim ownership of a murdered woman’s identity rather than focus on the crime.
It also prejudices the court caseBy misgendering Victoria from the very beginning, the prosecutor’s office may have comprised their case by signaling to the defense that a trans panic defense may be acceptable.
this isn’t about whether a trans woman “looks like” anythingI posted the below at TransGriot, but wanted to point it up here, also, if I may:
May Ms. White rest in peace.
May I just say, though: I don’t like the idea of saying – “look at her pics, does she look like a ‘man’?” Obvs not – she is utterly lovely. But what is the idea here – that if she were less attractive, THEN it would be okay to misgender her? Is that really what we want to say? This isn’t about how pretty we are as trans women.
Jersey Girl and Gemma Catherin Seymour can shove it.You know something, reading the link posted above pertaining to this case exposes some hypocrasy that’s found in liberal circles. The tired “White gay” meme that gets dull after a while once and the pathetic, hateful attempt to downplay and trivialize the death of the Clementi kid because of people’s petty frustration is insulting. Being a transgendered doesn’t give you the right to behave in such manner. Aside from Lawrence King, Matthew Shepard and Miss White, I don’t ever recall addressing cases or crimes against involving LGBTs. Lot alone those of color. Media is often very biased against LGBT. A awful and tragic fact of life. With that said,
there’s nothing admirable about the post link posted above.
Why not show the same anger to the Black community? White was Black, why isn’t her community doing something on her behalf. Oh because had she’d been a Black, heterosexual Straight female, a young woman like her would become the poster children of the neglected youth of color by biased, mainstream media. Yet communities of color, including the Latino community, play favoritism and select their victims all the time! Communities of color never show the same anger, frustration for LGBT of color when killed than they do for Straight kids that get beat up/killed by White cops or criminals, or when they’re kidnapped or even raped. And then they proceed to complain how media is biased against communities of color. Biases they’re probably guilting of having themselves! Where’s Gemma Catherin Seymour’s critisim on this. Oh yeah, it’s those pastry queens from Castro fault! Blame the White gays and organizations for not covering Victoria Carmn White’s death. Sometimes I wish I wasn’t such a bleeding heart, so I too could be an insenstive jackass and demonstrate the same behavior.
What’s more hypocritical is this, after she stops ranting about the White Gays.
After pretty much faulting, trivializing and scapegoating the Clementi kid because the lack of media attention. She said she didn’t care if she sounded insenstive, well, in that case, as insenstive as this sounds, she should just STFU and realize that she’s probably on the same level as the people she finds fault with. The sad and tragic fact is that LGBT of color never get the same attention and coverage by media outlets. Even with that, many of you forget the biases that communties of color have against their own LGBT you, NONE which are mentioned in her article. It’s always the damn snow queens
To others, my apologiesExcuse my long tirade. I’m just frustrated the people sink to low and make inflammatory comments like that. I honestly don’t care if I’m not transgendered because nothing, and I mean nothing justifies hateful comments like that. People get worked up what social conservatives say about LGBTs, but Seymour’s comments where on the same level. Sorry, but it’s just the way it is. You can all boast about her allegedly “speaking the truth” but there are others who are never addressed on their own biases that should be in that article. It’s just the same rhetoric over and over. It pisses me how the
Clementi kid was trivialized and how quickly some jackasses used him as whipping boy for their politics.
The one thing Victoria Carmen White has in common with him, at least for me, is the fact that both these deaths have “touched” me, in the sense that I feel for them. Well not really, but I have a lot of empathy and sympathy for them. When I read cases like this, I get upset. Not because “one of us” has had their lives taken (I don’t feel like I’m part of ANY community, especially the LGBT community thanks to the likes of Jersey Girl and Miss Seymour) but because how fucking awful and inhumane people can be in this day and age. It’s not even exclusive to LGBT, either, it’s how people, in the world we live in today, have no regard for the fellow man. There’s no civility, no empathy, kindess no LOVE and yet we supposedly a rightous, moral, Christian society, accoring to bible-thumping bigots.
I didn’t like how Clemteni became some random “White gay kid”. Imagine if someone called Victoria Carmen White as a “Black tranny”? Or even addressed her as that. I’m sorry, but even with the White gay elite and the LGBTs issues with media coverage, class, race and even sexism doesn’t give ANYBODY, including Miss Seymour, the right to trivialize their deaths. That bit of silencing transgendered folks was cheesy. I’m pretty sure many LGBTs feel like their being silenced by media and much of society.
So, which perception of that trimpuhs the most?
Here we go again…..I think that you have a lot to learn, kid.
Sure, Clementi’s death is tragic, though does it mean that he should be made the “poster child” of this situation? Like it or not, an outrage isn’t going to help get those that provoked his suicide, though a bit of attention on Victoria White’s death would help bring her Murderer to justice.
This happened BEFORE Clementi’s death. If it HAD of been reported, it potentially could have helped STOP his death due to greater awareness of LGBTI people within his area. It might have also of made his tormentors think twice about what they were doing to him.
That’s one of the main reasons Jersey Girl, Gemma and myself are soo pissed over the lack of coverage of trans-related murders, as any form of LGBT-related education, via the media or otherwise, helps prevent situations like these. If that kid had of known that there were people around who could help, he never might have committed suicide. Ditto the others.
Spare the patronizing attitude.Considering that I’m always learning something new about the LGBT community everyday and something about myself. Condescending much?
The situtations are not the same. One commited suicide as result of heartless, mean-spirted prank and the other was deliberately murdered. I don’t see how he was ever a poster child of two entirely different situations. Ask me how does it justify TRIVIALZING someone’s death? You reduced a kid to being same damn pastry queen or some random gay White kid everyone’s making a big deal about. Gemma’s rants about the White gays are a tired meme and it was a testimony to the former of what I said. Why can’t you and others share some of that anger to our allies, and heck, maybe even the Black community itself (pertaning to White’s murder)? They may have a equal or bigger responsibility but your friend depended a tire meme that seems to very popular when looking for a whipping boy.
Those comments where uncalled, period. You may appluad her and yourselves for “telling it like it is’” but, I repeat, there’s nothing admirable about it. Even if there is some validity behind the post, it made the commenter sound like a JACKASS. Media outles are heavily biased against LGBTs, sorry to say. You think because they covered Clementi that it’s evidence of more care for gays than trans folks? Really, the media just loves the gay community so much? What about ALTERNATIVE media outlets that complain so much about what the mainstream does but are guilty of doing the same? Every thought about ranting about?
You might as well dig up the graves of Lawrence King and Matthew Shepard and blame them as well. They recived a lot of coverage. King was bi-racial, but “looked White” Share your anger on them too. There’s nothing more I fear than being a victim or being a killed as a result of hate crime. Miss Gemma gave me another reason, the fear of my death being used as a whipping boy, a scapegoat for someone’s politics and ultimately, my death being downplayed and trivialized because the trans community is often ignored.
You may not like it rapid_butterfly, but the reality it thatAfrican descended transwomen have to battle the same ‘unwoman’ societal BS our Black cis sisters do.
Another dose of reality is that for far too many cis people, transwoman = NFL linebacker in a dress.
So yes, for many transpeople of color, since we are already whacked by a beauty standard that is NOT designed for women of color, how we look and how close we are to the beauty standards within our culture are important.
respectfully – you’ve missed the point, MonicaMonica. I am a trans woman. So I am well aware of the pressures we face as trans women to conform to societal expectations of beauty. Believe me when I say I am well aware of what it feels like to be told that I’m not feminine enough.
however: if you say: ”this misgendering is not okay, cause, see, she was beautiful (which Ms. White clearly was)” that is sending the message: misgendering is okay or somehow less bad if the trans woman is not beautiful or looks too manly or whatever. And that is a real mistake, IMO, especially when it comes from within our community.
The misgendering of Ms. White is NOT okay, but it’s not because she was lovely.
I don’t deny anything you say about the importance of living up to expectations, but those are pragmatically important things – not things that are somehow a prerequisite for respect.
and respectfully, rapid_butterfly you missed my point…In that African descended trans women are far too often subjected to the same ‘unwoman’ meme as their cis sisters are, and as a trans woman who happenes to be African descended, I don’t necessarily experience trans issues the same way as a white, Latina, or Asia trans woman does.
That difference comes across in my writing on the blog and the way I look at issues.
You saw it one way. That’s not the way I wrote it or what I was thinking at the time I composed the post.
My response to Steven Goldstein, Chairperson of Garden State EqualitySome of you may be in interested in the correspondence I have received from Steven Goldstein, Chairperson of Garden State Equality, and my responses thereto.
http://gemmaseymour.tumblr.com…
Re: thelatinkid90Imagine my lack of concern over whether or not your feelings were hurt by my pointing out the truth.
As you have admitted you yourself are not trans, you do not get to decide what it is appropriate for trans people to feel about this issue.
I honestly have never encountered the phrase “pastry queen from Castro”, but if that possibly is in some reference to the Castro neighborhood of San Francisco, I would have you know that, in fact, I am a native of New York City who currently resides in New Jersey, and have never been to SF. This is just one of the many reasons why these stories concern me. They are being enacted in my backyard.
If by “pastry queen” or “snow queen”, you are inferring something about my race, gender, or economic status, or really anything else at all about me, then you may wish to know that I am a 42-year-old, functionally unemployed, transsexual woman who is of mixed race, and if you know anything about the subjects of miscegenation, sexism, and racism in this country, then you will understand that a 5′ 10″ white English-German woman marrying a 5′ 4″ Filipino man in the mid 1960′s wasn’t exactly a cakewalk for us.
But, of course, all this is beside the point.
Those of us who are trans are sick and tired of having lip service paid to us by the “LGB and Sometimes T” organizations which claim to be working for our equality, but often are willing to ignore us or even throw us under the bus to further an agenda which doesn’t include us.
We want our rights protected, and we want it right the fuck NOW. Justice should not be made to wait on the doorstep until you’re comfortably dressed.
Those of us who are economically or employably less advantaged are sick and tired of the oppression of classist privilege.
Those of us who are people of color are sick and tired of the oppression of white privilege.
Those of us who are women are sick and tired of the oppression of male privilege.
Those of us who are trans are sick and tired of the oppression of cissexual/cisgender privilege.
So, when we see society at large falling all over itself to protect the needs of yet another rich, white, male, cis person, even if he happens to be gay, while completely ignoring us, we’re bound to get a little pissed off. Or a lot, as the case may be.
You think you’re tired of hearing the “white gay” meme”? Well, fuck you, we’re tired of having to say this over and over and over and over again, so don’t tell me how bored you are with the truth.
In progressive circles, we’re fond of the rhetoric which tells us there is no hierarchy of oppression, when in fact, a hierarchy of privilege is well-established. Imagine my lack of concern over your hurt feelings when this is pointed out to you.
Imagine my lack of concern over breaking solidarity with some of the wider queer communities over this issue, when my constituency is so often denied.
If you have anything at all relevant to say about Tyler Clementi, Victoria Carmen White, or any of the criticism I, or anyone else, has levelled at the situation, then be relevant. You arguments wouldn’t make it past a high school debate team, riddled as they are with logical fallacies and off-topic obfuscations. All of which have been used time and time again as silencing tactics against us.
It’s your responsibility to educate yourself, not mine.
News terminology: “transgender woman” vs “woman”: pro and conIn any murder or attack on a transperson / person-of-transsexual-history, I think that the “transgender” aspect should be mentioned in the news report. Such crimes need to be identified publicly as hate crimes. If it isn’t mentioned, other people aren’t going to recognize the very real problems facing transpeople / POTH.
As for the argument over which death was more tragic, ENOUGH ALREADY. Go forth and publicize for both Victoria White and Tyler Clementi. Both of them should have been alive today.
Don’t give Pam too hard a time about it…FWIW, I picked up the story from Questioning Transphobia right after it happened, so it was getting some coverage, at least in trans news outlets. For the last three weeks, though, I’ve been growing steadily most frustrated as the Clementi, et al, stories overwhelmed White’s murder, along with growing ever more frustrated with Garden State Equality’s inaction until my dam burst yesterday.
Gemma
Thanks Pam Not only do we face their biggotry while we live our lives as who we are,they even mock us in death. Do they even have a suspect in this? I didn’t see anything mentioned on that. My thoughts and prayers go out to her family and friends. And I thought NJ was becoming a safe haven.
As far as I’ve heard there are no suspectsWas wondering if we raised $$ for a reward for info leading to arrest and conviction of the perp?
At some point we must be proactive!!
Pam and I cleared it up on Twitter.Everything is fine. Well, at least for Pam & I. For Victoria it’s still sorely lacking.
Video of one of Victoria’s friends telling NAACP President Ben Jealous about the murderhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
Thank you!