This can’t make the Obama WH political genius strategists happy, or Robert Gates, who recently made changes to make DADT policy “more humane” And the outing witch hunts, despite John McCain’s fantasies, still continue to this day, and all of this talk is focusing attention to this issue as the WH has to choose whether to defend this policy in court. (The Wonk Room, which has video):
Yesterday, as Republicans successfully filibustered the 2011 Defense Authorization Bill and the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, President Bill Clinton told CBS’s Katie Couric that when he signed DADT into law, he was promised a far more lenient policy:
COURIC: Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, do you ever regret it as a policy?
CLINTON: Oh yea, but keep in mind I didn’t choose this policy. Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell was only adopted when both Houes of Congress had voted by a huge veto proof margin to legislate the absolute ban on gays in the military if I didn’t do something else…They made it clear they would never let me order my executive order, gays to serve in the military…. And I got beat and so did they gay rights people got beat. [...]Now, when Colin Powell sold me on don’t pass, don’t tell, here’s what he said it would be: Gay service members would never get in trouble for going to gay bars, marching in gay rights parades as long as they weren’t in uniform, getting gay materials for any of the places they went or any of the things they did, as long as they didn’t talk about it. That was what they were promised. That’s a very different don’t ask, don’t tell than we got. What we got as soon as General Powell retired, was this vicious mid and lower level officer feedback when they for a year or so made it worse than it had been before. Then it sort fo settled down. But the reason I accepted it because it was better than an absolute ban and because I was promised it would be better than it was.
Clinton was assured that the military would not pursue witch hunts against gay soldiers, but his policy led to that and resulted in hundreds of other abuses. The regulations prevent the military from initiating cases, but they instruct commanders to begin investigations once a servicemembers’ orientation is known. As a result, the history of DADT is riddled with witch hunts and with discharges that feel like witch hunts. Soldiers were both unintentionally outed by circumstances outside of their control or illegally pursued by their commanders. “The fact that the regulations were tightened by [Secretary of Defense Robert] Gates shows that there was plenty of room to tighten the regulations,” [Nathaniel] Frank told me.
But the bottom line is Clinton has to own the policy he helped put into place as a “compromise” to preserve his political capital. Here we are watching the legislative and political floundering to repeal the policy, with thousands of lives – ones dedicated to serving this nation – profoundly affected by the former president’s compromises.
You should surf over to The Palm Center to read “New legal analysis: White House can let judge end military gay ban.”
Today, the Palm Center released a new legal analysis prepared by Legal Co-Director and Law Professor Diane Mazur suggesting that the White House has a strong foundation for not filing an appeal to the recent case which declared “don’t ask, don’t tell” unconstitutional, Log Cabin Republicans v. United States.The memo concludes: “The Department of Justice has discretion to decline appeal of Judge Phillips’s September 9, 2010 Memorandum Opinion in Log Cabin Republicans v. United States holding ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ unconstitutional. No mandatory duty or obligation requires the government to appeal.”



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Didn’t see the interview.Wondering if Couric asked Clinton to comment on the 14,000+ service men and women who have been discharged under DADT?
Just goes to show that policy promises don’t mean a thing if a law is open to interpretation.
Clinton’s legacy to LGBT citizens is DADT and DOMA.
Mr President…
Are you saying the GOTP lied? I’m shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!
Poor, poor Bill Clinton.He was just a political naif, an innocent child in the field of politics, who had no idea of the kind of people who run our military. He was nothing but a helpless, innocent victim of their evil ways, like an Alzheimer’s-ridden old lady who’s conned by a hearing-aid salesman. I feel so sorry for him. And now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go check and see if the Easter Bunny has left me any fabulous chocolate.
Maybe BILL should go ahead and show up at LCR Party Tonight HONORING GOP Leadership!No, you can't make this stuff up!http://tinyurl.com/24otmtg
What’s the point of all thisIs Mr. Clinton trying to rehabilitate himself to the gays or is he trying to rewrite history? He’s acting as if we are not smart enough to know the facts. We know what real damage his legacy on DADT did.
Anyway, to me his acknowledgment is
Too little. Too late.
it would explain Colin Powell and some other thingsThis wasn’t the only case where the JCS was disingenuous to Clinton. They misrepresented the situation in the Balkans, so that the Bosnia/Croatian war dragged on — genocide and all — into 1995 before Clinton finally felt urgent enough to intervene. And there was the less-than-candid relationship over the war in Somalia he inherited from GHW Bush.
Of course, Powell got to misrepresent Operation Iraqi Fubar to the UN and the immediate world, and finally got caught telling a lie, so I suppose Clinton only now felt he could call Powell a liar and be believed.
Prop 6 Tracker has a great list of abuses…
With really shocking details of the total abuse of DADT…so much for Clinton’s statement that the abuses “settled down after awhile!” He’s working hard to rehabilitate his sad image as the “best Republican President we ever had” but he basically sold out the workers, soldiers and middle-class of this country, and the progressive base hasn’t forgotten his many compromises and sell outs.
http://prop8trialtracker.com/
Then let’s start the courts martial!I like Bill Clinton’s version. Let’s start going after officers who witchhunt and put them in front of courts martial.
Betcha DADT is history within two weeks from the first General to be dishonorably discharged for breaking the Don’t Ask part!
And don’t forget DOMABubba has been defending both policies, and defending them quite vigorously, until quite recently. My guess is that he’s figured out which way the pendulum is swinging and doesn’t want to be remembered as being on the wrong side of history.
What Clinton is saying . . . . . . is exactly what DADT was supposed to be like. That’s pretty much why I was willing to give McCain a partial pass on his vituperation, on the assumption that Sen. McCain is thinking of the originally-enforced version.
In any case, even if it was restored to the “kinder, gentler” understanding, DADT would still be wrong – it requires service personnel to hide ordinary social and non-sexual aspects of any relationships they have and completely erases partners/spouses.
That is a wonderful idea!!!! [eom]
To hell with ClintonWho was the freaking Commander in Chief, Bill? Was it you, a low-level officer, or Monica Lewinsky’s cigar hole?
Don’t the numbers back him up to some degree?DADT discharges started at just over 600 in ’94, then gradually increased each year until they had more than doubled in 2001. It was as if the military gradually just reverted back to the earlier policy. In 2002, there was a sudden drop as they became a bit more eager to hold on to people…
But, either way, he’s absolutely right that this was the best we could get at that time. It is NOT the best we can get now. We have the votes, but Harry Reid thought it was more important to make Republicans vote against DADT and the DREAM Act than to actually pass them. So he made them completely unpalatable to Republicans by refusing to allow them any amendments. Republicans who might face tough primaries saw a way to have it both ways and voted against. The votes were there, they’re still there, and we can win this if people stop playing stupid games.
He was inhaling at the time.
Let’s be clear about Clinton. Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar who taught constitutional law. He knew exactly what he was signing onto. He knew it was the codification of military bigotry enforced by military bigots in the officer class. (Obama’s “compromise” is more of the same.)
Clinton also knew exactly what he was doing when he championed DOMA, signed it into law within hours of its passage and then rushed to run ads on redneck christer radio trawling for bigot votes.
Clinton was – is – the definitive DemocratDixiecrat and anti-GLBT bigot. He signed NAFTA and deregulated the banks. He slashed social programs and flooded the streets with cops. He’s a rightwinger who’s lasting legacies are DADT, DOMA, austerity and 15,000,000 unemployed.
Agreed