I guess it’s all a matter of how you define “core,” Brian. He’s desperately trying to spin former RNC head and Bush campaign honcho Ken Mehlman’s coming out as both insignificant and minimizing the history of the GOP in fomenting anti-gay efforts in past political cycles. (The Advocate):
Brian Brown, president of the National Organization for Marriage, told The Advocate that Mehlman was “abdicating core Republican beliefs” in his support for AFER’s legal effort in challenging Prop. 8. “But it’s never been about the leaders. It’s always been about the people, based on an overwhelming majority of Republican voters — 85, 86 percent — who support marriage as a union between a man and a woman,” he said. “That a few folks within the Republican Party are questioning a party platform and have personal positions on same-sex marriage is a reality of political parties. [Mehlman] is no longer a major party leader, so I don’t know how influential he is, to be honest with you.”Marriage equality advocates, Brown said, are using high-profile conservatives now supporting marriage equality — from Ted Olson to vice president Dick Cheney — in order to “create an impression that there is an inevitability to same-sex marriage. The facts strongly go against that idea.”
Brown asserted that the RNC played a limited role in rallying the anti-gay marriage vote during the 2004 presidential elections, when Mehlman served as Bush-Cheney campaign manager. Eleven states passed constitutional amendments banning marriage rights for same-sex couples that year, including Ohio, which gave Bush a margin of victory over Democratic Sen. John Kerry.
“These [amendments] were pushed by people on the state level,” Brown said. “The whole notion that it was some top-down, Machiavellian ploy by the Republican Party is a farce.”
Come on, Brian, you need Maggie to help you out with a better line of spin. As Mike Signorile pointed out to WorldNetDaily’s unraveling Joseph Farah on the air, those polls on marriage equality are basically 50/50 and moving in the wrong direction from the fundie POV, so using that as the fig leaf for continuing the “save marriage” movement isn’t going to last much longer.
And as Jesus’ General Tweeted to me this evening:
@msignorile, @Pam_Spaulding, I have a feeling NOM’s Brian Brown will be “abdicating core Republican beliefs” at some point.
BTW, whatever you think about Mehlman’s pain-inducing past, the fundraiser for AFER is drawing big buck in for equality in the present:
Indeed, Mehlman’s first act as an out gay man will be hosting an AFER fundraiser next month to help support the case, which likely carries a price tag in the millions of dollars (the group has declined to disclose exactly how much).Although the invitations have yet to be mailed, Mehlman told The Advocate Wednesday evening that just through pre-selling the event, they had already helped to raise about $750,000.
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Some additional thoughts on Mehlman’s little coming out party…
* What does this mean for those of you out there who are still gagging about Mehlman officially “now on the team?” We are now moving into unchartered political territory, where strange political bedfellows have to decide what is in each other’s best interest.
As I’ve noted elsewhere, I’m a fan of GOProud’s positioning it needs to receive credit for making aggressive moves to point out the hypocrisy of the religious right and to take out the fakers and players like Joe Farah, who cannot stand up to real scrutiny. The fact is that LCR was working “on the inside” and never had a strong impact says more about the org than the GOP. Jimmy LaSalvia and GOProud put the org out there early and often to challenge the right wing bible beaters, and it brought on board prominent conservatives to take the lead to show you can be pro-equality and Republican.
Seeing how little the LCR accomplished when it was the only game in town and GOProud pushing in the door to break the logjam so quickly is good news for us all, despite the differences we may have on non-LGBT policy. To acknowledge that is to simply state the obvious – our rights shouldn’t be a partisan endeavor; we’ve only had to see it that way because only one party was even making an attempt to move in the right direction. We need both parties doing so
* Does this change how you view AFER? Its success is due precisely because it addressed Prop 8 as a non-partisan issue with a conservative case for marriage to be opened to gay and lesbian couples. It’s only natural that marriage equality supporters of all political stripes should be welcome to support its work.
* Accountability: Just holding a coming out PR event and raising cash for AFER does not let Mehlman off of the hook. As I mentioned in an earlier post, he has, in 2009/2010, not changed his donation pattern, still giving generously to anti-gay Republicans, ostensibly because he’s “not a single issue voter.”
There’s $2,400 to Missouri Republican Roy Blunt, who has voted to add a marriage amendment to the U.S. Constitution banning gay marriage, as well as to ban gay adoption.There’s $2,400 to Sen. John McCain, who wants to keep gay servicemembers out of the military.
There’s $1,000 to Ben Quayle, who is running for Congress in Arizona and who just labeled Barack Obama the worst President in history, and who just sent out a mailer to voters touting his opposition to marriage equality.
There’s $2,400 to Illinois Republican Mark Kirk, who voted to keep “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” in place (and who himself is subject to lots of rumors about his sexual orientation).
There’s $2,400 to Utah Republican Sen. Robert Bennett, who tried to stop marriage equality from becoming a reality in Washington, D.C.
And the list goes on and on and includes Republicans like Rob Portman, Kelly Ayotte, Bob Corker, Richard Shelby, and Johnny Isakson, all of whom have taken positions completely contrary to full equality for LGBT Americans.
WTF? That’s got to stop pronto, Ken. As we’ve learned with the Dems, the only thing they respond to is withholding the dough. But perhaps this will be a slow lesson for him to learn. Use your power to support and cajole candidates who are not personally anti-equality but are not yet willing to step out from behind their curtain of anti-gay positions. That’s how you can be effective. Will you take that role?
* Where do you think Ken stands on ENDA? Will he be speaking out on other issues?
* How will groups like HRC, which has been tied to the Democrat booty call for years, adapt to a diversifying political landscape? What about the DNC? I’m no clairvoyant, but at some point in the not-so-distant political future, you may see a significant number of wealthy LGBT donors breaking off and going GOP if it goes socially libertarian fiscal conservative. We already have a class divide in the LGBT community that largely goes undiscussed because it’s a third rail topic, but it does profoundly affectss what issues are given priority and the literal complexion of the faces of leadership. What will this mean for the movement?
No answers here, of course, just random thoughts I had as news trickled in. What are your thoughts?




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I can’t wait for publicity whore, Jeff Gannon, to weigh in on this…Ken says he couldn’t even admit to himself that he was gay for the past 47 years, but SOMEONE hired Jeff Gannon, a male prostitute who was famous for golden showers to come to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue DOZENS of times.
Jeff’s not real famous for keeping his mouth shut either! And a disclosure of this nature, now that he wouldn’t be outing anyone, would certainly put him back in the limelight that he loves so much.
Such a disclosure, especially with juicy details, could be especially troublesome for Ken, because it would put the lie to much of his recent remarks.
AFER is still good.AFER was fighting for marriage before he came out and wanted to do a fundraiser, and we could use all the help we can get, even if it is from a man who has done immense damage to the cause in the past. AFER will continue to fight for what they believe is constitutional, and I don’t believe having powerful former-anti-gay figures helping them should tarnish their image at all. Unless Olsen/Boies decide they are going to fight less hard for us as a result, I see no harm in Ken helping out.
Illinois is weird that wayI never voted a straight ticket until 2000, when the Republicans officially lost their minds. At the state level, our former (Republican) governor vetoed a “bikers’ rights” bill because the legislature hadn’t passed a gay-inclusive civil rights bill. His successor, a Democrat, didn’t support same-sex marriage. We have a pretty mixed bag on gay civil rights here. The far right doesn’t do very well here since the days of Penny Pullen, who introduced a bill in the legislature in the late ’80s to quarantine AIDS patients and lost her seat in the next election (in what passes in Illinois for a “conservative” district). And there’s always Alan Keyes’ campaign against Barack Obama for the Senate as an object lesson.
As for Melman, good. I’m glad he’s finally come to terms with himself and is taking the opportunity to do an about-face and work actively for the community. Yeah, he’s done a fair amount of damage, so give him a chance to make up for it. We need more of this — closeted Republicans coming out and throwing their support behind our fight. Who knows — once that starts happening, maybe the Democrats will grow a couple and do the same.
PS — we now have a civil unions bill in the state house, co-sponsored by my state rep, and a marriage bill in the senate, introduced by my state senator. My district is bedrock liberal — the only thing I have to yell at my congresswoman (Jan Schakowsky) about is that she should take a higher profile on these issues and do some yelling of her own.
Movement vs. MediaMy two minds of this are:
1) the MSM media who helped Mehlman “recently” out himself by keeping him closeted lo’ these many years.
2) the movement perspective which is to swallow hard and take new allies where you can get them.
I’ve listened to many “liberals” and liberal LGBT allies and even liberal LGBTs themselves argue against hate crime laws or even marriage equality from a “liberal” perspective.
Knowing that some “conservative” allies or conservative LGBTs oppose non-discrimination laws doesn’t come as any surprise either.
A majority movement requires a big tent. Though I wish everyone believed the same things I do, I know that’s not going to be the case, so we’ve got to work together.
Beginning to atone for the very recent damage Mehlman has done to LGBT lives in this country — and abroad — by working publicly on LGBT issues is fine by me. But he has much to do.
While I may be galled by this, I think more of the out LGBT conservatives I know who have been doing this before Mehlman and others were outed. People you never read about in the NYT. They must really be swallowing hard.
All that said, my harshest criticism is reserved for the MSM who knowingly abetted Mehlman and ilk while keeping him in the closet.
They bought into “being LGBT” as “being toxic” because they were/are bigots themselves.
They still do this — even LGBT reporters do — by falsely “balancing” their stories because of their own self doubt (or self loathing).
Mehlman is now outed. Other political figures will come sooner or later.
My question is who will continue to aid them in the closet? It’s the MSM, and even some of those are mini-Mehlmans.
Sorry Not On Board Sorry but I think this is all a stunt by Mehlmen to try to make himself look better in the eyes of the GLBT community and AFER is being used to further that agenda. We can see that he continues to give to anti-equality candidates while supposedly fighting for equality. He’s playing both sides of the fence. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a partner and is not recently single and knows getting out into the GLBT would be impossible unless he tried to make an appearence that he is trying to make up for all the damage he has done. My guess this will be his big PR splash then he will sulk away and continue to fund anti-equality candidates. He figures people will remember what he did here and few will check up who he is giving money to in the future.
I figured he was there for Rove.I don’t see it does us any good to find out Gannon was there for Melman.
Not that anyone needs to rebut BrownBut his comments are completely absurd. Even if (gack) all the anti-gay work was done locally, all the marching orders and talking points came from above.
Anyone who’s watched the Daily Show for more than 10 minutes has had it forcefully pointed out how often some talking point from the Bush White House hit Fox, Limbaugh, and the other usual suspects and within hours was all over the local news and on protest signs, etc. I’m even willing to believe some of the people involved THOUGHT they came up with their local ideas themselves, but the incredible movement of talking points and key phrases gives the lie to that.
“Ground Zero Mosque” is just the latest of these. People didn’t independently come up with things like “special rights” and “family values.”
And, when that top-down pressure shifts away from being anti-gay to the next talking point, they’ll follow along, baa-ing happily, leaving the professional haters like Brown wondering what the hell happened.
AppalingI am happy for Ken Mehlman. However, there is little that he can do to rectify the harm, he has done to gays. During the 2004 Bush campaign, it was the strategy to gay bait. Several states proposed and passed constitutional amendments banning same sex marriage. The purpose was get out the anti gay pro Bush vote. It is a burden he must carry and ,as I said, I am happy for him, but what he did to gays was appalling.
So staying in the closet is a core Republican belief?
Always thought so, but it’s nice to have this confirmation.
I’ve……cancelled my ongoing donation to AFER and unfriended them on Facebook.
This sudden arschlöchen on the part of AFER is embarassing and naive.
If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
Joe My Godhas a rundown of Mehlman’s ongoing sins against our community including current donations to some of the most virulent homophobes in Congress. Read them and then tell me you’re still overjoyed.
John Aravosis points out the only positive that I can see in this whole thing: It now means that a prominent Republican is to the left of Obama on marriage equality. It’s too bad that Obama seemingly lacks the capacity to be embarassed.
The REPUBLICAN march toward equalityI’ve said it before, but it becomes clearer every day. The REPUBLICANS, who have fought equality for LGBT Americans for decades, are pivoting on the issue. It’s Nixon in China all over again. THEY will bring equality to all Americans, THEY will get the credit, and the Democrats will still be mouthing their platitudes about separate but equal. As a lifelong Democrat I am ashamed of my party, but I will rejoice when I get equality, whoever is instrumental in implementing it.
Where does AFER stand on ENDA?Where do you think Ken stands on ENDA? Will he be speaking out on other issues?
I don’t know the answer to these question. Maybe somebody else out there does.
Where does AFER stand on ENDA and DADT?
Is Signorile correct to describe Ted Olsen as an LGBT alli as he did on his facebook page the other day?
It is perfectly clear to me how a liberatian conservative could support marriage equality since they would feel that government should get out of the way of people living their lives. But that same principle would suggest that government needs to stay away of anti-discrimination laws for the same reason.
I’m not critizing AFER or Olsen. I find it perfectly valid to pursue a single issue. But I do think it is wrong to generalize that support. Only they can do that and so far they have not, at least I haven’t heard them. So, if it is a valid question to ask Melmen, which I do, then maybe we should ask others as well.
precisely, Laura – that’s why I asked about ENDA
That’s why I ask the question. If we are to extend the libertarian conservative line of thinking, it’s not a given that Mehlman or Olsen would support ENDA. On the other hand, they could align with the constitutional notion that discrimination is wrong.
But asking the question in my mind is necessary.
And Mehlman coming outas well as the ambivalence on the part of the Ann Coulter s and Glenn Becks wouldn’t be happening if they didn’t see some political capital to be gained out of it.
And that is a direct result of Obama and the Democrats mushiness and “Farce Advocacy” on gay rights.
Now what this will translate into remains to be seen.
Don’t blame AFER one bitAfter all, the schmuck is bringing in a lot of money, and we need it. AFER has been one of the most effective organizations ever for LGBT rights, and in a very short time. I figure if a huge liberal like Rob Reiner can hold his nose and take Kenny-boy’s money, we shouldn’t complain. All’s fair in love and war.
However, Mehlman’s continued support of those who, like Mehlman himself did, consistently scapegoat LGBT Americans, using propaganda to deman, dehumanize and belittle us, means his is NOT forgiven, and should be shunned by all us rank-and-file folks.
See Brian Brown as a prime example
The GOP versus the Tory Party in the UKIt never ceases to amaze me why any gay man or woman could support, donate and vote for a party that doesn’t believe in their equality. Mehlman doesn’t come as any surprise. On the other hand, the Democratic Party isn’t so unanimous in supporting it either.
I find it fascinating just how different the GOP in the U.S. and the Tory Party in the UK are. Both conservative, yet the former strongly opposed to equality, opposed to ending DADT, DOMA and ENDA whereas their UK counterpart is just the opposite, with a military that allows gays to serve openly; anti-discrimination in the workplace and delivery of services already protected by recent legsilation as well as the right of gay couples to adopt children, lesbians can have invitro fertilization under the National Health Service and civil partnerships allow them to enjoy all the rights of marriage without the hame thus far. Already, there is momentum growing in the UK to upgrade to full civil marriage equality. The Liberal Democrats headed by Nick Clegg (now part of the Tory coalition government), are about to endorse same-sex marriage as official party policy; Labour is mulling it and already, several of their leaders have voiced support for it and there are rumblings within the Tory Party. Prime Minister Cameron himself had indicated prior to his election that he will consider it. He may have no choice now that Labour is making noise. Interestingly, there is an absence of religious interference in all this, unlike the debate we are having in the U.S. Not bad for a country that has state religion and a society that doesn’t profess any religious affiliation, roughly 95%, and a society in which 61% think that same-sex marriage should be allowed. Truly amazing.
AFER is revealing its elitism and lack of accountability
In what twisted alternate reality is this even close to true? AFER convinced one gay judge in San Francisco to strike down Prop 8. Wow, that was tough. GLAD has won marriage, through the courts or legislatures, in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont and New Hampshire. Lambda won it in Iowa. And there wouldn’t even be a Perry case if it weren’t for Lambda, NCLR and the ACLU winning marriage in California in the first place. Not to mention all the state and local non-discrimination, hate crime and anti-bullying laws passed by local LGBT orgs.
In not only accepting Mehlman’s money but trumpeting his involvement, AFER is showing their true colors. As I posted on AFER’s FB page:
“Only wealthy, white gay men could laud Ken Mehlman’s ‘contributions.’ His career has been focused on implementing political policies that are not only destructive to our community, but also to communities of color, women, immigrants, working people and people with HIV. Only if you don’t value those groups as part of our community could you possibly think it’s ‘a coup’ to get him.”
AFER is funded by uber-wealthy donors and accountable to no one. They’ve shown, time and again, that they have no interest in hearing from or working with the organizations that have been working hard for decades to build up all the rights we’ve won, and they show a callous disregard for the damage that a loss of this case at SCOTUS will inflict upon LGBT Americans who are not privileged gay white men from the coasts. I can only hope that their wholehearted embrace of a man who has overseen destructive campaigns against LGBT will open peoples’ eyes…
Let me tell you how I really feel…
my new post is upThe Advocate interviews Ken Mehlman; what is the political path forward?
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/…
Donation changes will be forced by RepublicansI’m with you, Pam, about Mehlman taking responsibility for future donations.
Won’t much of it be forced by Republicans, though? I can only imagine that he’s being scrubbed from fundraising lists by Roy Blunt, John McCain, Robert Bennet and others this week. For that matter, let’s not be surprised in the next few days to see Republicans running for office pull a Bob Dole and return money he’s given this year.
Pandering to Teabaggers will require conservative politicos to purge any hint of being Mehlman-friendly.
Rove’s prollythe biggest closet case of all.
“BTW, whatever you think about Mehlman’s pain-inducing past, the fundraiser for AFER is drawing big buck in for equality in the present”This quote pre-supposes a lot.
Referring to one of the most vile people in the history of this country, a person who happily and profitably participated in the greatest of treason — the overthrow of Democracy — as someone with a “pain-inducing past” is staggering. It’s highly unlikely he himself did not directly commit criminal acts in the rigging of elections that caused the installation of Dick Cheney as our President for eight years, but let’s say he didn’t. Let’s say he just supported the people who were actually committing the crimes and had no knowledge of exactly what they were doing. That’s okay? Because it’s only “pain”?
Or is it okay because he’s “drawing big buck” for some vanity outfit of a couple of guys who decided that they knew better how to pursue equality for this entire country — and whose path to equality was not only an all-or-nothing almost 50-50 gamble with all our lives on the line, but involved working with another of the most vile people in the country — Ted Olsen — who we have absolutely no reason to trust after he did his part in overthrowing democracy himself, and not just with Dick Cheney, as Olsen also brought us Citizens United. Yes, that’s a fine, upstanding citizen to be associated with who obviously has only the most humanitarian motives. For the first time ever in his life. Yes, that makes sense.
So let’s re-write that quote:
“”BTW, Mehlman got rich destroying our lives and the lives of everyone like us in this country, but the fundraiser for AFER, a quickly and loosely thrown-together front for a couple of guys who decided that working with traitors in one of the riskiest legal gambles ever that could decimate our civil rights movement was a smart move, is drawing big buck in for that group to continue to do whatever the hell they want in the present as they continue to work with people no decent human being would even cross the street to spit on.”
Okay, that last part is inaccurate — I, for one, would run across the street to spit on any of them.
Thank you for this blast of sanity.I often wonder if the entire damn community has lost their minds over these people. The Prop 8 trial, which may yet end in all of us losing everything we’ve gained to date, was pointless from the start. Prop 8 will obviously be overturned at the ballot box in 2012. It probably could have been overturned this year. Racing to put it in front of a disgraceful, bigoted, bought-and-paid-for right-wing extremist Supreme Court — and put there by someone EXACTLY LIKE THE WORST OF THAT COURT — shows what this group is really about.
Why would anyone trust a known snake in the grass?Beyond my comprehension. A leopard’s spots don’t change.
WTFThe Tories are hardly all that supportive of LGBT people. Fairly senior Tories, have even recently, insisted on the rights of certain businesses, beds and breakfasts places, to discriminate against LGBT people. The Tories are not the opposite of the Repubs. They’re not as bad, mainly because the rest of UK society has dragged them, often kicking and screaming along.
You conveniently omit mentioning that all those laws you talk about were passed by Labour, NOT the Tories.
Great News and Excellent AnalysisI am glad that the GOP is ever so slowly embracing the inevitable, gay rights is not a partisan issue, and having one party for us and one against us is not good enough. I love seeing the religious right meltdown with AFA, Porno Pete, NOM, and Farah running for cover or lashing out at those around them.
As for his past sins against LGBT’s, we should forgive but not forget. He has the rest of his life to apologize for it, but ultimately better late than never.
I wouldn’t be at all surprisedto see photos of BB with a boytoy de jur on his arm, one day real soon. He can’t possibly spend that much time thinking about the hot-hot man sex without throwing a little wood over it.
Federal court
First, we don’t really know if Vaughn Walker is gay. It keeps being repeated as truth but I’ve heard no confirmation from Judge Walker himself. Do not be surprised if after all this is said and done, Judge Walker puts out a statement saying “Sorry, folks, but I’m actually heterosexual”.
AFER accomplished, for the first time ever declared so by a federal court, that gay and lesbian couples have the right to marry each other regardless of their gender.
You also forget the fact Lambda, and local LGBT orgs, also lost battles in Washington State, Indiana, Maryland, New Jersey and New York. I live in Washington State, and the ruminations from that failure is haunting to this day. So you’ll have to excuse me if I have some misgivings about the efforts to overturn the decisions using State Supreme Courts. It doesn’t help the 31 states that have enshrined marriage inequality into their state constitution in a manner that the state supreme courts won’t touch them.
Their only choice is to move to another state, have their right to travel restricted whereas heterosexual couples are not challenged.
Also, Jeff Zerillo and Paul Katami are ‘persons of color’. Do they not deserve their rights too? Your statements are ridiculous, and would have us wait decades for full equality. I do not want to wait until I’m in my #$%#$^$ sixties before my marriage is respected nationwide.
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The United States is not a democracy. It is a constitutional federal republic.
Democracy, in it’s purest form, is what has been used against gay people over and over again, with 31 constitutional amendments on the state level. You cannot support democracy in the form that you suggest, as democracy is the antithesis of fundamental rights that are enjoyed in terms of protection of minorities against unequal treatment under the law.
We can have a full discussion on the issue of corporate personhood, stolen elections, and other assorted forms of stupidity, after our full citizenship is recognized under the constitution and under the Civil Rights Act of 1964/Fair Housing Act of 1967.
Agree on asking the question.But no one is asking. They would rather bask in glow of a marriage equality win and assume the best. Signoreli should have known better then to just declare Olsen an LGBT alli without having asked the hard questions. But then, he didn’t ask the questions about killing the gender identity bill just before passing marriage equality in NH. He didn’t ask the hard question when Delaware passed SO only anti-discrimination.