You’re assuming a lot

Well it will be interesting tomorrow at the LGBT Town Hall when we get to ask Mr. Solmonese about that bold promise he made at the HRC Carolinas dinner to a bunch of donors with their check books

You clearly are assuming that he will allow himself to have a serious question put to him – much less in a manner in which he will actually have to answer it.

Did I miss something here??? WHEN and WHERE did the Park Police “take responsibility”Has someone, anyone seen or heard of some , oh, “Press Release” or something from the Park Police that I haven’t seen??
Help me here, Please!
What in the world was Mr. Gibbs (who I do have a secret crush on) talking about when he said this?
Also, WHO is in charge of the Park Police, and what in the world was their motivation/justification for this.  This was waaaaayyy off!
There has been no “Taking Of Responsibility” that I have seen?

He’s right, they did, but who cares?
I could give you a link but it’s a waste of time. The more important issue is not which DC gestapo did what but what the President is doing: working against repeal of DADT!

The lab reports are in…again!
With respect, how many more times do we have to keep performing the same autopsy and getting the same answer…that the President’s support for repeal this year is DEAD…before the gay blogosphere starts urging everyone to stop the denial of that unequivocal truth and join…or at least aid financially….the direct actions of GetEqual?
I doubt very much if Messina and his boss, Reichsmarshall Rahm, let alone Obama, read anyone that stopped deep throating their Kool Aid long ago. I doubt they either read or give a flying fuck about open letters from various gay groups urging them to be nice to poor little us and keep their promises.
It is ONLY by drawing public and mainstream media attention to their hypocrisy that they MIGHT be embarrassed into changing….along with reigniting and multiplying the financial boycott by gays that flared briefly last summer and then was snuffed out two weeks later by the fools who believed his recycled promises at the White House Tea for the Gays was genuine.
To just keep talk talk talking about it, reporting yet another confirmation of ObamaRahm’s duplicity, has become masturbation. Goddess knows I’ve written, documented, railed again and again hoping to inspire an uprising myself.
I urge you take this message to Signorile’s panel tomorrow:
Out of the blogs and into the streets! We call upon every LGBT person to contact the White House/DNC and tell them NOT ANOTHER CENT UNTIL REPEAL!

It has taken… how long? to get an actual, honest, unambiguous answer?Tell me again why we should trust the Obama administration with our rights.

Well, we finally know the details of Obama’s much-vaunted PLAN for progress on LGBT equality.  And the plan is: NOTHING.  NOT A DAMN THING.  DADT, DOMA, name it.  And how could we ever have known?  I mean, it’s not as if he’s been transparently stalling for months, is it?  And it’s not as if he actually told us his religious views are more important than our rights, is it?  He never told us point-blank that God’s in the mix, or anything, did he?
But having Obama’s stooge finally admit this won’t deter the Obamolaters here from defending the two-faced, lying  bastard. Not one little bit.  They are already getting their talking points ready.  I can hear them warning up, off in the distance:
You people don’t know how American politics works!
He’s only been in office for a year and a half. Give him time!
You’re all a bunch of teabagging Republicans, that’s what you are.  So there!
He’s better than McCain, nyah, nyah, nyah!
He never said he’d do this while he was still in office, did he?
I’m already yawning.

tomorrow I am callingmy congressman, senators, Speaker Pelosi, Schumer of the DSCC, the DCCC and the DNC.
I will remind them all of two facts.  
1. Prior to his inauguration, Obama promised to begin the process of repeal on his 1st day in office.  
2. In his State of the Union address Obama promised to get DADT repealed this year.
Obama has broken both of his promises.
Then I will tell them that I keep my promises.  And, I promise I will not vote for any democrat, donate any money to any democrat or volunteer any time for any democrat unless DADT is repealed through the Defense Authorization Bill.
We need to threaten them and make sure they believe the threat.  It has only been a couple of days since the latino pols have threatened to tell their constituents to stay home in Nov if immigration reform isn’t handled this year.  And, I just heard reported that the administration has now said immigration reform will be done this year.  They made a threat and the white house apparently believes them.  It’s time for us to do the same.  PERIOD

Breaking: The President’s waffle iron is missingLet’s hope this doesn’t represent either (1) a surrender to the Joint Chiefs (bye-bye Commander-in-Chief powers) or (2) a retreat on other national-security matters as well, e.g., a war with Iran.
Bye-bye DOMA repeal as well?
Fiat justitia ruat coelum.

There you have it folksThe Federal government doesn’t give a shit about the american people, all they do is perpetuate hate on one side and then pretend they are doing something about it on the other side. It’s time for the American people to stand up to this shit and demand our constitution to be restored. It doesn’t matter who you put in office or in congress, they will never full fill a damn promise, whether it’s repealing the patriot act or the DADT policy.

Well..In case it has escaped everyone’s attention, Obama has broken just about every single promise he has made since his inauguration.
1. Repealing the Patriot Act (Extended it for 1 year)
2. Promised not to sign executive statements
 *(“With much of his legislative agenda stalled in Congress, President Obama and his team are preparing an array of actions using his executive power to advance energy, environmental, fiscal and other domestic policy priorities,” reports The New York Times. “)
 *Obama’s most notorious Executive Order is the Establishment of the Council of Governors, which creates a body of ten state governors directly appointed by Obama who will work with the federal government to help advance the “synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States”.
 * No family making less than $250,000 will see “any form of tax increase.”
Obama has indeed kept 108 of his promises but many of them were nothing but a hike to big government. Bush passed over 260 Executive Orders and the majority of them were to institute martial law and militarize the states

HehI don’t trust any of them. They’ve shafted the constitution, that alone should tell you how the federal government stands ultimately on the rights of the american people.

Cmon People – Let’s Break from THEIR Two-Party SystemSince before I was of age to vote, (and now I’m in my 50s)I never trusted the Dem or Repub party.
It’s THEIR party system, and look whose interests they represent.
After Obama attended the HRC dinner, I scanned the net for reactions regarding his speech. My favorite was written by someone who posted an opinion on the NY Times web in response to the article. I have included it below:
“Everyone who identifies themselves as being different assumes that anything that happens to them is because they’re somehow different. ‘What about our rights?’, they ask. Then they ask for protection from the same government that is oppressing everyone and it seizes on the opportunity to oppress everyone more. ‘We have to have your money to protect you’, it says. ‘You have to give up your rights so that we can protect you’, it says.
If a mob guy walks into a store and demands money to keep something bad from happening, everyone knows what he’s up to. No one seems to be able to recognize the same thing happening in a government that has evolved into nothing more than a giant protection racket feeding the ones at the top of the food chain.”  

Not at all.After all, SCOTUS has ruled that corporations are “people.”  And the federal government sure as hell cares about them.  It’s only the people who really are people that Obama and the rest don’t give a damn for.  Hmm…if only there were some way to incorporate the LGBT community…we’d get everything we want in no time at all.   (Of course, that might involve all of us moving to Delaware, so it might not be worth it.)

That’s brilliant!

Look for Martial Law to be imposed…somewhere in the U.S. by the end of this year.

YepAnd they already have it in executive orders to round up the american people and put them in FEMA camps. Bill Clinton and Joe Klein are already saying that speaking out aggressively against the government is a seditious act.  

there’s moreHe’s given us offshore oil exploration, an ongoing Gitmo, an escalation in Afghanistan, a seamless continuation of Bush DOJ pleadings in the Jepesen and al-Haramain cases, a Solicitor General who seems to think “battlefield law” confers jurisdiction and a health bill without public option but with a mandate. DOMA/DADT repeal were just two more items on a very long list.
No surprises. And just watch: ENDA might get put off another year too.

Put not your trust in princes.
– Psalm 146:3

Compliments ofThe Banksters and their international Corporations cartels, and yep yep! the FEDERAL RESERVE!

And please don’t leave outRace to the Top and other neocon educational “reform” abominations written by BFF Arne Duncan, Education Secretary and basketball buddy to Obama.  We just beat back a horrendous anti-teacher, anti-union, anti-public school bill here in Florida that was written by former governor Jeb Bush using language straight from Obama/Duncan’s RttT grant application language.  
The teacher’s unions are very angry at Obama and his failure to keep the promises he made to us during the campaign (repeal of No Child Left Behind — he’s changes a few things, kept the worst parts and somehow made them even worse than Bush did).  
Between the anti-war progressives, the Latino community, the LGBT community, the teachers, the unionists, and health care advocates, who exactly is left in the democratic party today?  Anyone?  Buehler?

We are NOT going away……….next week 30 on the fence!“DADT Equality Rally” on Sunday, May 2 at 12:00pm.
Event: DADT Equality Rally
What: Rally
Start Time: Sunday, May 2 at 12:00pm
End Time: Sunday, May 2 at 3:00pm
Where: Lafayette Square
We also need to contact members of the Senate Armed Services Committee and really put the pressure on Sen. Scott Brown and Sen. Susan Collins. We need these two Republicans to get repeal into the Def. Auth. Bill.
Start calling people!

My guess isthat even if it’s included in the auth. bill, Obama will veto and demand revision.

The party systemIs nothing but a control paradigm designed to keep the American people distracted and divided. Lets start looking to the Declaration of independence for our answers and not billionaire globalists that intend to take down our country and enslave us by eradicating our constitution.

Maybe-Lesby Anne Elena Kagan…
…DEFINITELY believes in “battlefield law.” During her confirmation hearings for O’s Solicitor General, she had this loving exchange with Maybe-Gay and Definitely Right Wing Extremist & Rabid Homophobe Lindsey Graham:

GRAHAM: “If our intelligence agencies should capture someone in the Philippines that is suspected of financing Al Qaeda worldwide, would you consider that person part of the battlefield? Do you agree with that?”
ELENA KAGAN: “I do.”

In other words, Kagan believes suspected terrorists/”enemy combatants” can be held indefinitely without charges and trial. [NB: OAG Eric Holder believes the same.] Kagan has “also agreed that an American citizen could be prosecuted for drafting a legal brief or writing a newspaper article in coordination with a banned group.” – LA Times.
Such opinions, and her scary defense of the Patriot
Act before the Supreme Court, have made Kagan the darling of Right Wing heavyweights [only bit players are braying about the sexuality issue].
While most gay bloggers are simply giggling about the possiblity that a maybe-lesbian might be added to the Supreme Court, gay civil rights attorney, author, and Salon columnist Glenn Greenwald has looked below the surface and been horrified by what he’s found:

“Whatever else one might want to say about … Elena Kagan – it is simply false to claim that [she] would fit within the so-called ‘liberal’ wing of the Court on matters of executive power and civil liberties. The replacement of John Paul Stevens could have a very radical impact on the Supreme Court, and it’s certainly not too early to begin combating pernicious myths about the leading candidates. . . .
…replacing Stevens with Kagan … would shift the Court substantially to the Right on a litany of key issues (at least as much as the shift accomplished by George Bush’s selection of the right-wing ideologue Sam Alito to replace the more moderate Sandra Day O’Connor).”

The Huffington Post’s Sam Stein wrote recently that ObamaRahm had “reached out to progressive allies” and asked them “to dismiss” Greenwald’s articles with their own defending Kagan.
My first personal opposition to Kagan was based solely on her betrayal of her own past legal protests against DADT. Greenwald’s research proves there are even greater, chilling reasons to oppose her, and I urge everyone concerned about whom ObamaRahm may nominate for the lifetime seat on the Supreme Court to read more at
http://www.salon.com/news/opin…
and
http://www.salon.com/news/opin…

Didn’t want this at top. From Clarknt67 on DKOS…re the above story.here is link:  http://tinyurl.com/24vywec

The White House could end the story once and for all easily enough. It could address this directly and clarify this is an absolutely untrue rumor, they want to delay repeal until 2011 and if Congress wishes to move forward on a repeal vote in 2010, it does so with the full support of the Commander-in-Chief. However, even in the wake of the protest at Barbara Boxer’s fundraiserand yesterdays’ incidentin at the White House, Deputy Press Secretary Bill Burton still refuses to give a simple “Yes” or “No” on repeal in 2010.
The LGBT community waited 17 years while we experimented with the “compromise” of Don’t ask don’t tell.
The LGBT community waited 8 long years while the GOP controlled Congress and the White House.
The LGBT community waited while the Stimulus package was fought over.
The LGBT community waited while the health care reform debate dragged on for 14 months. (And we sucked it up when the final bill excised all the LGBT-specificHouse Bill provisions our community had fought for.)
The LGBT community waited while the jobs bill was fought over.
The LGBT community is being asked to wait while Wall Street reform is being fought over.
But, now is the time to “walk and chew gum at the same time.” Now is the time for “fierce advocacy” and the “fierce urgency of now.” I thank Senator Udall for providing it. If Democrats suffer serious losses in November, repeal will be much more difficult. Or if they lose the House or the Senate, it could be off the table entirely for years.
Given that provisions of the healthcare bill do not kick in until 2014, it seems absolutely reasonable to vote in 2010 for repeal, with a delayed implementation until after the study is complete. Repeal can be sunset for sometime in 2011. Many LGBT lobbying groups including Human Rights Campaign,Servicemembers Unitedand the Servicemembers Legal Defense Networkhave indicated they are amendable to such a compromise. The LGBT community has been patient and are willing to be reasonable. But “trickle down equality” is not working. It’s time to stop tinkering at the edges of repeal and end this policy once and for all.
A big thank you to Senator Udall for speaking on behalf of our brave servicemembers and all those who care about equal treatment and opportunity in America. And a thank you to other heroes in Congress who have led, including my own terrific Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, Carl Levin, Joe Lieberman, Patrick Murphy, Barney Frank, Tammy Baldwin and many others. You are American heroes.

DADT, ENDA DOMA“Until the Democratic Congress passes, and President Obama signs, legislation enacting ENDA, repealing DADT, and repealing DOMA, we ask you to join us in pledging to postpone contributions to the Democratic National Committee, Organizing for America, and the Obama campaign.”
That’s “The Pledge.” Haven’t you guys all taken The Pledge? Joe Sudbay sure has. So he, and most of you, cannot support Obama until DOMA is repealed. WHICH AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN – not before the 2012 elections, even if Obama were to make it his first priority and work 24/7 for it for the rest of his time in office. So, pass ENDA, repeal DADT, whatever – you’re not going to support him, but y’all can still throw a nasty tantrum.

Maybe we can do more now…Everyone can’t chain themselves to fences but wouldn’t some well placed flash mobs on Pennsylvania Avenue be a real hoot? I wonder how that would work from now until election day?  

try these links… at Glenn Greenwald’s blog at Salon:
http://www.salon.com/news/opin…
and, further back,
http://www.salon.com/news/opin…
“The Case Against Elena Kagan”
Alarming stuff, if the Solicitor General thinks that calling a place a “battlefield” can take jurisdiction away from sitting courts, esp. if the “battlefield” is the continental U.S. and the suspect is a U.S. citizen.
For drafting a legal brief, huh?
I agree that LGBT issues can be important, but if we get a Supreme Court majority that thinks the President can be what John Yoo says, a latter-day Caesar, then little else will matter.

Fiat justitia ruat coelum.

hate to say it…..how many times have i been ‘shouted down’ on various comment threads for pointing out, based on his own words and deeds, that barack was not really going to do anything for us ? too many times to count, i was told that we just had to be patient..he’d get around to us as soon as he ended the war…as soon as he saved the economy…as soon as he took care of all the ‘more important’ (!) things on his full plate. i honestly do hate to say it but..i told you so. we’re right back where we were when clinton gave us DADT: they have to ‘study the issue and get back to us..someday..maybe..we’ll see. in the meantime, keep sending in those donations and let’s have a FABulous cocktail party with ‘leaders’ like solmonese’ !! ugh.

And what the interpretive answer be?A new voting method?  Say the Condorcet method?  Or some other criteria for the legislative and executive branch?  If it were not so profitable for politicians, would they run for office?  It is this power that leads to the wealth of the offices involved; something the fouinding fathers foresaw but did not think likely, hence the lack of inherent safeguards for the offices mentioned above.  It saddens me to see this country being sold off, piece by piece, just so we can have a short term gain on our P&L’s, ignoring the long term losses involved.  Thisd is a zero sum game and the average person is the one that is losing, now more than ever.  But, unless the wealthy are investing in foreign currrency or hard capital, such as precious metals and such, they will get burned too.  bonus question:  Can anyone name who controls 97% of the world’s rare earth elements?  
Just who will be destroying the country, the “billionaire globalists” or the people, through their own indifference?
Geekydee  

WellIt was Nathan Rothschild a globalist and banker who bought out the London Stock Exchange after he lied about Napoleon winning the war that said “Give me control of a nation’s money supply and I care not who makes it’s laws.” The Rothschild family, along with the Rockefellers, Morgans, Oppenheimers and Schiffs control the moneys of the world. And they are doing so through the Centralized banks such as the IMF and Federal Reserve. How do you think Argentina’s economy collapsed? The US completely dismantled that country along with many others INCLUDING IRAQ and are now working on Iran. Any country that rejects the Centralized bank planning by the banker elite globalists  are sabotaged and destroyed and then replaced with leaders that will….cooperate. What we are seeing is nothing but a repeat of History dating back further then Hitler.

Well here’s another Question for JoeKerry Eleveld at the Advocate is reporting LGBT leaders, including HRC, were told Feb 1, just four days after the SOTU address that the White House would not be repealing DADT in 2010. Why did Joe subsequently promise as such to his donors at a fundraising dinner? Ask him if he’s running a pomzi scheme trading lies for cash?
I’ve resisted the urge to deminize Obsma, but if these reports are true, he included DADT in the SOTU knowing full well he had no interest in delivering it in 2010, I am convinced he thinks we are fools.
And I’m becoming convinced he’s a sweet-talking snake-oil salesman that’s been taking our community for a ride. I hope getEqual heckles every fundraiser and I’m ready to chain myself to that fence too.  

LoLAnd I have been on this blog site since 2008 saying the same thing only that Obama and Bush are notdifferent from one another, just different ideas on how to achieve the same goal. Which is and always has been a formation of a one world government. The  idea for a one world government means the eradication of a nation’s sovereignty and that includes the inherent innate rights of the people in that nation. But more then likely I will be told again that I am just a conspiracy nut job. So yeah man I know completely how you feel.

“like a fire bell in the night, (it) awakened and filled me with terror…” Thomas Jefferson.How many ‘fire  bells in the night” does it take before you get burned again?  It’s well past the time for Democrats and Obama supporters to wake up and smell the betrayal.  
Obama doesn’t deserve getting the benefit of the doubt. He’s been in office too long and it’s clear that he’s our enemy.
How many turncoat Clintonbot diehards still try to justify Clinton’s DOMA and DADT? How many Log Cabin types still try to excuse Bush’s use of state DOMAs as wedge issues? Our communities are rightly critical of McCain, Pelosi, Palin and Quislings like Barney Frank.
Obama ran his election campaign, from McClurkin to Warren, appealing for the votes of bigot christians. And clinched the election sabotaging same sex marriage with ‘gawd’s in the mix.”
Obama and the Democrats are in bed with theocrats and the DNC is positively infested with them. So is the White House Office for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.  
Obama doesn’t another chance at running us over with the Democrat bus. If you stay in the Demnocrat party you might as well just lie down at the bus stop and wait for it.
Join and help build unions, the heavy infantry of social change and especially the Union run and funded Labor Party.
A Republican is a rancid right centrist with a theocrat attached at the hip. A Democrat is a Republican in drag.
With Democrats like this who needs Republicans?

Agreed.

I intend to, Clarknt67 – and will he lie?Because I have heard from 3 independent sources as well. His bold promise was made at the HRC dinner as donors enthusiastically parted with their cash — and think of all the corporate donors there. Big bucks. So he can either claim Obama tossed them under the bus, or HRC tossed us under the bus all while continuing to rake in money on civil rights “vaporware”.

Another link that I found for thishttp://thephoenix.com/Boston/n…

I’ll Second that motion,…………….and…This needs to be an issue not only nationally, but locally too.  Politicians are always coming ’round with their hands out.  Well I’m saying it’s high time to ask each of them exactly what they are are doing, or rather, HAVE DONE for Gays, and I’m not just referring to “what have they talked about”, but “EVIDENCE” of previous of initiatives.  
If they cannot answer me with proveable facts, then No-Moolah-4-U-!
I plan to have this discussion too at the next local Dem meeting.
YES, we must stand firm on the cash.  This includes with the HRC, and any other “rights group”.
Put out or get out!  I’m tired of waiting.  This was a Promise Broken! period.
Contact the White house
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
Contact the Democratic Party anout “Issues”
http://my.democrats.org/page/s…
AND
Contact the DNC “Contributions” Division telling them that there “will be no more contributions” until there are Proven Policy Changes on DADT and ENDA.
http://my.democrats.org/page/s…
They already have our money, so they should give us some results with the cash that they already have.  
My Pledge:
How each and every Legislatior has Already Voted on Gay Issues will be My Deciding Factor in every election from this moment forward.

I am sure all of these issues are valid and worthwhile, but we will get nowhere if we do not focus on the acquisition of our rights. This Is My Only Issue
until Full Rights for Gays are enacted.

As far as Corporate Paesonhood is concerned………We really need a Constitutional Amendment to change this, IF it is really necessary?
Doesn’t the Constitution say “For the People, By the People”, etc…

Is there Really a Rally? Please give more details and some contact information.
I agree that Each Month we need to have a “Fence Rally” where the Media will either be allowed to view the protesters being arrested, or not, until DADT is repealed.
Dan Choi and the others have literally put themselves on the line for US, we need to now stand up to this opression, or just bow down and take the abuse for the rest of our lives.
The time is NOW!

I think that we have just been hit by that Democratic Bus you mentioned.I can mentally see the caricturization of the Democratic Bus (which we have paid for a wheel or two) dirven by Obama, with Democratic Leaders in the front seats, whose salaries we too pay, running over the Gays, and especially Gay Solidiers who have fought to defend America.  It’s time for a New War – One for Our Rights!
What a pittiful crying shame for the Leader of the Democratic Party to have completely abandoned his word.

UhOk let me ask you this, all of you who are saying we need our rights for GLBT people. How do you expect to get these rights when the federal government is disparaging your basic constitutional rights, I mean they pretty much shafted the group protesting DADT and Obama flat out lied to  GLBT people. And here everyone is saying we need to do another rally, make more donations to this lost cause, that is exactly what it is.  So if you’re being denied your basic constitutional rights to protest this seeing that people were arrested for it, I would say there is definately a battle going on and DADT is just not a priority right now.

postscript and some convergencesRegarding Elena Kagan, commented on above, the animal-cruelty ruling earlier this week, commented on in another thread, and the question of rights, including ours, smothered in the name of strong government. Greenwald has a new column about the Supreme Court and Kagan, specifically, some alarming assertions she made in her pleadings about the animal-cruelty ban:

Where the First Amendment value of the speech is “clearly outweighed” by its societal costs, the speech may be prohibited based on its content.

You shouldn’t have had a Constitutional Law course to take alarm at this. If Government can ban speech because it doesn’t like the viewpoint, i.e., content (rather than, say, the time-place-and-manner), it isn’t a stretch to see a ban on LGBT advocacy if some future state or Federal government decides it’s “harmful to society”. This, apparently, was what drove the court to an 8-1 decision, made even Chief Justice Roberts see a First Amendment threat.
Article at
http://www.salon.com/news/opin…
(BTW, I agree that the videos were repulsive and that Congress needs to deal with them. A sloppily-worded and overbroad law is not the way. Kagan apparently, inadvertently, demonstrated just how a poorly-written law, in the Executive’s hands, could do harm. See, e.g., the history of the Mann Act if you don’t believe me.)
If this is what passes for legal reasoning in Obama’s administration — and Ms. Kagan is Solicitor General — then it suggests an alarming combination of legal carelessness and Executive arrogance. But that was, after all, the m.o. of the Bush/Cheney administration.

“Fear of serious injury alone cannot justify suppression of free speech and assembly. Men feared witches and burnt women. It is the function of speech to free men from the bondage of irrational fears. To justify suppression of free speech there must be reasonable ground … to believe that the danger apprehended is imminent …
“Those who won our independence by revolution were not cowards. They did not fear political change. They did not exalt order at the cost of liberty. To courageous, self-reliant men … no danger flowing from speech can be deemed clear and present.”
- Justice Louis Brandeis, dissent, Whitney v. California, 1927

Actually, betrayal by Democrats is SOP.

I will not support another deceitful democratno matter what their party platform says.  Obviously, we have been majorly duped by the whole lot of them, AGAIN.  If I vote for anyone this fall or 2012 it will be an independent, green, or socialist.