This case presents a constitutional question never addressed by this Court: whether a statutory scheme adopted by the State of Virginia to prevent marriages between persons solely on the basis of racial classifications violates the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment. For reasons which seem to us to reflect the central meaning of those constitutional commands, we conclude that these statutes cannot stand consistently with the Fourteenth Amendment.…These statutes also deprive the Lovings of liberty without due process of law in violation of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.
Marriage is one of the “basic civil rights of man,” fundamental to our very existence and survival. Skinner v. Oklahoma, 316 U.S. 535, 541 (1942). See also Maynard v. Hill, 125 U.S. 190 (1888). To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State’s citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discriminations. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.
Marriage — at the very least marriage between a legally identified male and a legally identified female — is considered a fundamental right in the United States. This fundamental right was spelled out by Cheif Justice Earl Warren within the language of the United States Supreme Court ruling Loving v. Virginia. The above quote is from that ruling.
However, which sex and/or gender is the opposite sex and/or gender of a preoperative trans person is apparently is of great concern to the marriage license issuers in Shasta County, Nevada (Which includes the city of Reno). Are trans people somehow legally third-gendered, and not able to legally marry anyone at all?
Well, aparently in Shasta County, trans women who have not had genital reconstruction surgery, but live in states where one can change one’s gender marker on one’s state identification cards before that surgery, aren’t able to legally marry anyone at all.
From the San Francisco Chronicle‘s Spurned by NV, transgender female to wed in CA (male name redacted):
Danielle Pauline Severson takes female hormones, dresses like a woman and plans to have sex reassignment surgery so she physically looks like a woman.Yet the pre-operative transgender female, who was born __ __ Severson, will have to tie the knot as a man in California.
Well, why is that?
From the Reno Gazette-Journal‘s Spurned by NV, transgender female to wed in CA:
Chief Deputy Clerk Nancy Parent declined to issue the license.“We try to be flexible in accepting things but because the government-issued photo ID says female, we cannot issue (a marriage license),” Parent said. “A birth certificate doesn’t suffice for anyone because there’s nothing on that birth certificate that proves it’s you, it doesn’t show what you look like years later.
“We have no leeway because the law in the state of Nevada opposes same-sex marriage. It’s not our rule; the voters decided it, and we had two people who appeared to be the same sex.”
When asked if she could have proved she was still male, Parent answered the following.
“We don’t make physical examinations.”
But, Danielle Pauline Severson had documentation: a birth certificate showing she had an M for a gender marker, divorce papers from a marriage to a woman, her name-change documentation, as well as her photo identification. Perhaps unfortunately — perhaps unfortunate only in this kind of situation — Severson resides in California where one can change one’s gender marker on one’s state identification cards without surgery.
If Severson would have married a male instead of a female in Nevada, then the marriage would have no doubt have been considered an illegal fraud because Severson is still considered legally male due to the “M” on her birth certificate, and her male genitalia. Remember Chief Deputy Clerk Nancy Parent’s quote:
…Nevada opposes same-sex marriage.
The net effect is that Danielle Pauline Severson does not have the fundamental right to marry anyone at all in Shasta County, Nevada.
Never let anyone tell you that marriage equality isn’t a trans issue. As I’ve quoted Mara Keisling of the National Center for Transgender Equality (NCTE) in the past:
Every trans person who’s in a relationship, regardless of what their gender is or ever was they’re either in a same-sex relationship or in an opposite sex relationships that somebody could claim was a same-sex relationship.
In Shasta County, Nevada, people like Danielle Pauline Severson apparently can’t legally marry anyone. Trans women who’ve changed their state ID’s gender marker but as yet haven’t had genital reconstruction surgery are dehumanized to the point that for marriage purposes in Shasta County, trans people like Danielle Pauline Severson are not able to legally marry anyone at all.
And, that’s just wrong.
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Related:
* Question At The Marriage Chapel: “Are you a transsexual?”




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Uh huh.Like there’s anything about MY birth certificate that “proves it’s me,” even though the genders match. Or my Social Security Card, for that matter. I had to show up with those to GET my state issued ID.
“We don’t do physical exams.” Right. What’s next? “Sorry, you look a little femmy today. We don’t buy it. Go butch it up and try again another day.”
That’s pretty much what happened to me in White Plains NYBUT when Trudy and I went to Manhattan, we got our marriage license, albeit after a three hour wait while counsel for the marriage licence bureau of the City Clerk got a “second opinion.” This refusal in Nevada could make a very interesting test case, but getting married in CA might moot the issue . . ..
Even if we manage to get a marriage license and have a facially legal marriage of whatever kind, cases like Kantaras, Littleton and Gardiner indicate that any court can set aside a facially legal marriage for no reason at all.
And then there’s Tennessee…which has a court ruling from a couple of years back that says ONLY birth gender is valid for marriage purposes in TN (the ruling was used to invalidate a legal marriage). Therefore, Nashville could become a mecca for same-sex transweddings.
The simplest, most just solution is marriage equality. Anything else, and these state and local governments are going to be tripping over themselves at every turn.
Well not alwaysHeh, unless both people are trans like my girlfriend and I. Which isn’t that uncommon I think actually.
Yes, sadly you’re right.I’m contemplating marriage with my cisgender female partner in Tennessee, but we’ll have to find a sympathetic judge. If one of you is from out of state and can get a BC change, you might be able to slide in with a fair-minded judge.
The bottom line is that anything we do in TN is subject to the whims of the Tennessee Taliban.
BTW, here are links to the story…
http://search.theleafchronicle…
http://www.365gay.com/news/ten…
Jennifer Finney Boylanwrote an article some time back (NYT? WashPost? not sure) asserting that many same-sex marriages are legal, i.e., those involving a couple that wed before (sometimes years before) one partner transitioned. I’m not sure if this is true (would someone please explain the previous comment about how any court could set aside a marriage?), but I think her basic point was the arbitrariness of it all, and that the simple and just solution would be equal marriage for all.
Peace,
noahsdad
Fundamental problem with DOMAAnd thus Autumn has highlighted the fundamental problem with all “one-man/one-woman” laws; they don’t define what a “man” or a “woman” is. Those of us who are educated understand that not only are there transgender people, who may or may not have fully transitioned, but also intersex people who may live their entire lives without a clear physical gender. It is not clear at all whether the laws in question allow for them to marry, and thus the laws are clearly unConstitutional, according to the Supreme Court.
That is why I have never understood why Olson/Boies, for instance, don’t use the Intersex as proof that Prop 8 is unConstitutional. I also think the LGBT legal societies should be fighting for exactly the kind of invasive exams that Nevada won’t do. If we have to protect marriage, then straights should be fine with genetic and physical exams to ensure they are not some kind of “freak.”
From the outside looking inI don’t understand the outcome Autumn wanted, absent marriage equality.
The NV registrar stated that NV uses state issued photo ID, as the basis for granting a marrige license. They honor the gender identity on that license. Had Ms. Severson shown up with a male identified person, with a photo I.D. with a male gender marker, there is nothing in this reporting that would lead me to believe a marrige license would have been denied. What is the outrage over?
I would argue that CA is displaying the more “anti-trans” stance, by not recognizing the “femaleness” of Ms. Severson.
I would like to see marrige equality, but until that time, how do you want me to react (as a straight, white, middle aged guy). People have a gender identity, it is not the same as their sexual orientation, and it is not always governed by biology (at least not biology that we understand yet). When faced with the inconvenient truth (Ms. Severson wants to enter into a lesbian marriage, which is not possible in either CA or NV), she opts to change her gender identity to male to skirt the unfairness of the underlying law.
I am sorry, but this kind of thing is what makes people believe that gender dysphoria is not “real”.
I should have addedI don’t subscribe to the view that gender dysphoria doesn’t exist.
I’m a bit confused as well.It reads to me like Danielle was trying to enter into a lesbian marriage, which is illegal in Nevada. Unless you’re trying to say that because she still has a penis and an M birth cert she’s still a man, which would kinda go against everything you’ve said in the past?
I also didn’t read anything about her trying to marry a male, so I’m not understanding why you’re saying she can’t marry anyone in Shasta county.
Can you clarify please?
I also didn’t realize the birth cert requirement in California, I guess it must depend on the person issuing because I know people who’ve been able to get married with just a driver’s license change, or a surgeon’s letter. Or nothing at all.
Missing the PointI think the key quote here is:
“If Severson would have married a male instead of a female in Nevada, then the marriage would have no doubt have been considered an illegal fraud because Severson is still considered legally male due to the “M” on her birth certificate, and her male genitalia.”
Technically, no matter which sex she married, she could have her marriage be invalidated. And that’s the problem.
exactly!this case demonstrates a problem with what many transgender activists have been advocating for- drivers licenses that reflect the “new” sex despite having not undergone sufficient surgical sex reassingment procedures to acquire amended birth certificates, passports and social security cards.
That said, I recognize that even if an individual undergoes all of those procedures and secures the documents, any marriage entered into by such a person is subject to legal challenges…particularly when crossing state lines. There is a decent discussion of this in the following article:
http://aas.sagepub.com/cgi/con…
Hopefully, we will one day have same sex marriage. For trans people who don’t see it as your issue, this sort of thing should demonstrate why it really is. We are caught in the cross fire over this topic. Absent same sex marriage, we really need some sort of state consensus on identity recognition for trans individuals .
Olson and Boiesprobably aren’t including intersex people int heir arguments, because none of their clients are claiming this as a barrier to marriage. If there were already strong cases ruling for the freedom of intersex people to marry regardless of the sex of the spouse, I’m sure it would have been mentioned as a bolstering arguments as is marriage for inmates, interracial marriage, etc.
And alsothe patchwork of different state laws creates a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. I’m sure that in many ways life became much easier once she was able to change the gender on her drivers license, but of course it created the “can’t marry” problem. But if she hadn’t changed her drivers license, she wouldn’t be able to function as herself and would likely be getting harassed when anyone noticed the discrepancy between her appearance and what the DL said her sex was.
The Gender BinaryWhat if Ms. Severson idenitifies as third gender or genderqueer? A person’s choice of surgeries and other treatments doesn’t necessarily indicate his or her core gender identity, which can be anything in the vast universe of genders and sexes. If she doesn’t mind using her male identity in order to game the unfair system, then I see nothing wrong with her doing that.
The bottom line is that marriage needs to be gender-neutral. Nothing less is acceptable.
I’m confused…I understand that Danielle wants to be married but she applied in Nevada as a man? Hold on, it’s always been said that transwomen are women. Nevada doesn’t allow two women to marry. And then she said she was actually a male? What gives? She’s a woman–of course they denied her a license. Is it wrong? Sure, I think so. Two consenting individuals (adults) should be allowed to marry no matter what sex or gender either is, in my opinion. But this just rubs me as wrong. You are a woman but then claim to be a man. She could have always gotten her ID changed back to a M and then married a woman. Then she could have changed her ID again. I guess it just sits kind of wrong because since transwomen are women, why is she then claiming to be a man? I also understand genderqueer but she doesn’t seem to be that from the little I read. It seems almost to be, “Hey, I’m actually a man, so let me and my lover get married even though my ID says I’m a woman and I identify as a woman.” Doesn’t that kinda of fly in the face of transwomen are women, despite the fact they may have male genitalia?
Not to Nitpick…But there is no Shasta County in Nevada.
Never was. There’s a Shasta County California, which Borders Nevada.
If this happened in Reno, it would be Washoe County. If it was in Carson City, it was Carson City County (alot of people seem to think Reno and Carson are the same place) It doesn’t actually say in which Jurisdiction she was attempting to get a Marriage license, but I’m just a stickler for being accurate….
Okay, here is an answerThere are a number of American jurisdictions with courts that have followed the outdated and poorly-decided English decision of Corbett v. Corbett, 2 All E.R. 33, 44 (1970), which held that a marriage by a post-op transsexual woman actually belonged to her originally-assigned sex, and her marriage to a man was declared to be null and void.
In Littleton v. Prange, 9 S.W.3d 223 (Tex. App. 1999), cert. denied, 531 U.S. 870 (2000), Christie Lee Littleton had had her Texas birth certificate amended as a result of her having completed surgery. She had a marriage license and married her husband. This was a medical malpractice wrongful death case. Her husband was killed by Dr. Prange’s bungling, but the doctor’s insurance company lawyers were successful in having the marriage declared void to eliminate liability to the wife for wrongful death.
In Kansas, an estate proceeding, In re Estate of Gardiner, 42 P.3d 120 (Kan. 2002) resulted in an estranged son being awarded the entire estate on the basis that the marriage between his father and his post-op stepmother was void ab initio.
In Florida, Kantaras v. Kantaras, 884 So. 2d 155 (Fla. App. 2004) was a matrimonal that centered around the legality of the marriage and child custody issues. A well-written lower court decision was tossed out on intermediate appeal, and the parties later settled, leaving bad law in place.
The New York case I used to get my marriage license, Anonymous v. Anonymous, 325 N.Y.S.2d 499 (N.Y App. Div. 1971), involved a pre-op trans woman whose marriage to a man was voided (she had had SRS in the meantime, but to no avail, the marriage was held to have been void ab initio (from the beginning). I argued that if I, as a pre-op trans woman could not marry a man under Anonymous v. Anonymous, I should be allowed to marry a woman.
The idea that a marriage is void “ab initio” if entered between two parties who are at the time the same legal sex, would militate against a court unilaterally voiding a marriage entered into at a time when the parties were legally (according to the state’s determiner of legality) of the opposite sex.
However, since the court would determine at a later date what the parties’ legal sex was at the time of the marriage, it is possible that a court could conclude that a marriage made between a transsexual (or other intersex)individual and anyone else might be void ab initio, on the basis that a transsexual (or other intersex) individual is never fully male not fully female, regardless of op status, and therefore constitutes a “third gender.” If marriage is between a man and a woman, it would follow that third gender people woudl be neither, and thus not legally capable of marriage.
In my own situation, I was able to convince the lawyer at the New York City marriage license bureau that if I could not marry a man under existing caselaw, I should be able to marry a woman. And I did.
But what if a court later disagrees and decides that I could not have been either, and that my marriage is void from the start? What if it’s a wrongful death case, and Trudy isn’t around herself to object?
The trans community has or should have a large stake in pushing for marriage equality (and yes, I know, we need our other rights recognizedas well!), since gender neutral marriage laws would permit us certainty in our marriage relationships, regardless of our op status or the sex of the person we marry/are married to.
The marriage situation might be like the situation encountered by a trans individual at a Maryland rest stop on I-95 a few years ago. A state trooper stopped her from entering the ladies’ restroom. She then went to go to the men’s restroom, and the trooper stopped her from using that bathroom either. It sounds a lot like what’s going on with the mentally defective public officials in Reno.
In New York . . . . . . I am technically legally “male” for marriage, or anything else where the birth certificate assignment of sex is used. Great, as a lesbian I married my wife legally without having to drive a couple miles to Greenwich CT. On the other hand, I am female on my driver’s license, because the standard for DMV is a letter from a medical or mantal health professional certifying as to predominant gender. The driver’s license is commonly used form most purposes for proof of identity, including sex.
Federally, I would be male for passport purposes were I to apply for one, unless I wanted a special passport good for one year, for use to have surgery in another country. Then again, I am female for social security purposes, having changed my name and sex under social security regulations in effect before October 2002.
I have a court case pending in New York Supreme Court, New York County, challenging the birth certificate designation on the basis that the initial designation as male was erroneous. This may result in my marriage being voided – which would just put me in the same legal position as any other lesbian in New York, rather than as one with a “minor technicality.”
It’s a technicality.Look at it this way. I am not a man. But my birth certificate says “male.” Even if I had already had my surgery, I would not have to change my birth certificate. The law permits but does not require a change there. A post-op woman born in New York and living in New York who is oriented toward women might, under current law in New York, still be allowed to marry a woman.
Think of it as a loophole. In my case, Trudy calls it a very tiny minor technicality . . .
Who knows how my marriage would be viewed in, say, Virginia . . . I would argue that neither DOMA nor any of the mini-DOMAs apply to my marriage – but that’s cold comfort if something were to happen while Trudy and I hypothetically travel down I-95 on our way to Florida.
Chief Deputy Clerk Nancy Parent is identified as the culprit . . . . . . and unless there are two of them in the area with the same name, it would be Washoe County NV – good catch!
WellBeing as I live in Nevada, I would hope I have some idea of what I’m talking about =]
Same here!In Ohio, we can’t get our gender marker changed no matter what!
This has also happened here in Ohio… a pre-op MtF getting married to a natal female, so come to Ohio and get married too!
Wait…I thought that NY doesn’t use the birth certificate for marriage, which is why anyone who lives in NYC (where BCs are reissued completely new, as if it were the only version that ever existed) still can have their marriages invalidated if they marriage someone of the opposite sex/gender.
(Man… this stuff is too confusing).
TrueThat’s true, Lurleen, but if we can bootstrap the DOMA challenge to the Prop 8 appeal if the bigots take it that far, that would be the death knell to this myth of one “man”, one “woman”.
The problem here is state involvement in personal relationshipsThe solution is to eliminate all gender tests for marriage.
Actually, I would go further because I don’t believe the state has any right to mediate personal relationships, but I gather I’m in the minority. That is to say, I don’t believe in marriage at all.
If folks want to bind themselves to another, that’s all well and good, but the state shouldn’t have anything to do with it.
In Ohio…the bastards will not change the sex on your birth certificate for anything. No matter how many surgeries you’ve had, no matter that every other piece of ID you have designates the other gender– Ohio forces you to keep forever the one you were born with. You can get an Ohio driver’s license with your correct gender, but your Ohio birth certificate will contradict it. After all, the DMV and Vital Statistics are two different agencies. Why should one care what the other one thinks? Tell it to the judge.
So then which gender will officialdom use to determine who you are? I dunno, maybe it’s a tossup! Take your chances: Gender roulette! Place your bets!
Moreover, if RealID goes into effect, trans people born in Ohio are S.O.L. It will force all forms of ID to match the birth certificate in every detail. Since I had the misfortune to be born in that benighted state, I’ll never know security in my ID until they drop that utterly unjust discrimination.
You’re absolutely rightI feel it’s dishonorable and dishonest for trans people to take advantage of that loophole. It’s unfair for cisgender gay & lesbian people who can’t exploit that option. It lends credence to the mistaken notion that trans women have “male privilege” over cis women. Worst of all, it negates/makes a mockery of trans people’s gender identity altogether, as you pointed out.
After I transitioned, I was “legally” in a same-sex marriage– but I don’t want it to be that way. I refuse to be on anything but an equal footing with other lesbians before the law. I left that marriage (for other reasons) and I’m going to get divorced. Now that I’ve established my official femaleness, I want to gay-marry my girlfriend, and I can’t in this state. But I will not go about it in that sneaky way that contradicts my womanhood. It wasn’t easy to attain, and now that I’ve made it, that’s it, I’m never going back.
There is no Shasta County in NVWashoe County is where Reno is. Shasta County (and town) is in California, up by Weed. This mistake just makes the whole story all the more confusing to me. I absolutely agree that marriage should be gender neutral but don’t understand why an official not obeying the law of the state she is in (Is it CA? NV? who can tell with these errors?) is not very news worthy, nor anger-making.