No final decisions have been made, but the White House is floating a nastygram balloon for all of us out there who have pre-existing conditions and know how health insurance companies have gotten away with murder denying people coverage. And this was one of the primary reasons reform is needed in the system.
It was one of the promises Barack Obama made to Americans when he was on the campaign trail. And it’s a common sense reform at that, particularly since some companies, so greedy to protect every last dime in their coffers, have gone so far as to make being a battered wife and the state of being pregnant pre-existing conditions. Everyone knows a horror story about this.
Yet here we are, with a watered-down bill that already does little and in a state of panic to pass something, ANYTHING, the Democrats are turning on the big bus, revving the engine, and Pelosi, Reid and the President are fighting to floor it and run over all the people with diabetes, MS, AIDS, and any other chronic, expensive illnesses who have been waiting for…what was that word? Oh, that’s right — CHANGE. It’s been pared down to cover pre-existing conditions only for children under the age of 19.
Representative Gerald E. Connolly, Democrat of Virginia, said the 2,000-page House bill might have been “too much, too ambitious for an anxious public.”But Mr. Connolly said, “Doing nothing is not a good option.”
Lawmakers, Congressional aides and health policy experts said the package might plausibly include these elements:
- Insurers could not deny coverage to children under the age of 19 on account of pre-existing medical conditions.
- Insurers would have to offer policyholders an opportunity to continue coverage for children through age 25 or 26.
- The federal government would offer financial incentives to states to expand Medicaid to cover childless adults and parents.
- The federal government would offer grants to states to establish regulated markets known as insurance exchanges, where consumers and small businesses could buy coverage.
- The federal government would offer tax credits to small businesses to help them defray the cost of providing health benefits to workers.
- If a health plan provided care through a network of doctors and hospitals, it could not charge patients more for going outside the network in an emergency. Co-payments for emergency care would have to be the same, regardless of whether a hospital was in the insurer’s network of preferred providers.
The package could also include changes in Medicare, to reduce the growth in payments to doctors and hospitals while rewarding providers of high-quality, lower-cost care. To help older Americans, it could narrow a gap in Medicare coverage of prescription drugs, sometimes known as a doughnut hole.
Sara Rosenbaum, a professor of health law and policy at George Washington University, said the proposals were “totally doable” and could help perhaps 15 million people.
WTF? 15 million? How many people are there in the U.S who are uninsured or under-insured? According to CNN, 86.7 million Americans were uninsured over last two years, and an additional 25 million have insurance, reports CBS, but not enough to protect them from potential financial ruin by a health crisis.
I fail to understand why there is a lack of support, other than being bought off by the insurance companies, for barring denial of coverage for people with pre-existing conditions. The fact is that for those who cannot receive their medications to treat chronic health issues, will end up getting care in the ER, where it is most expensive, or, they’ll simply die. I suppose that’s one way to keep costs low — the GOP way.
Something like this is not better than nothing. These concessions will only delay political action on the necessary reforms that will be tossed onto the shoulder of the road. And after this last SCOTUS ruling on corporate “free speech” re: ads, expect are already hogs-at-the-trough pols to be oinking away as more $$$lop goes into political races, with going back to do additional reform placed permanently on the back burner.



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OySo for someone with, say: fibromyalsia, asthma, IBS, PTSD, endometriosis, eczema, and a hx of seizure disorder would be FUBAR?
Screw Medicare for all, I say we fight for Tricare for all! The infrastructure is already set up…
I think someone is drinking the Kool Aid…This article reeks as bad as a Fox News report. Lot’s of smoke and mirrors. I think the worst case scenario at this point is that the House will pass the Senate version of the bill. That bill already includes preexisting conditions and coverage for more than 30 million.
Later they can try to get a few of the other House things passed if they want–like the “Rich” tax to defray costs, better cost cutting mechanisms, and the infamous public option.
For the Democrats to try to reconcile the bill at this time and make it worse than the existing Senate bill would asinine. I’m not saying they wouldn’t do that, but they would surely lose the House and Senate later this year if they did something as stupid as that.
It’s time to kill this billIt’s time to kill this bill. We watched while the public option got taken out, while affordable medicines were jettisoned and now those greedy insurance companies get to keep their beloved “pre-existing conditions”? The only thing that seems to be left is a mandate that every American be in thrall to the insurance industry the rest of her or his life. Screw that!
Good thing I have lubeI have Complex PTSD, one major and two minor psychiatric disorders requiring anti-depressants and anti-psychotic medications. The V.A. won’t touch me because I’m not a retiree or a combat vet. If pre-existing conditions gets stripped from the bill, I won’t be able to afford the health insurance enough to go to grad school this fall. I’m going to have to get a student loan just to pay for health insurance premiums under a new plan because I won’t be covered by my employer while on sabbatical to go to school!
And drug costs? We already know that prescription drug cost controls and re-importation have been stripped from the bill. My antipsychotics cost $14 per pill because they’re not available in generics yet. If I can’t get health insurance with a drug plan, my prescription drug costs are going to be over $500 per month out of pocket. I can’t afford that now working full-time for a defense consultant, let alone as a grad student!
Have I mentioned recently how much I hate the Democrats? Especially POTUS? Asshole.
No real big surprise hereThe dems and the repubs are totally controlled by big corporate money and well funded special interest groups. Folks with pre existing conditions or a lack of health insurance do not fit into either group so of course you are screwed. Thus far, the Obama administration is just shy of a disaster. The tea leaves I see don’t see much improvement over the next 3 years.
While a huge chunk of the US population is petrified of socialized medicine I am a convert.
I now live in Canada and this is what I experienced two days ago:
I had to go and see two physicians and two labs for lab work for an acute condition. I did not have to wait in line at either Dr’s office in spite of the fact that I did not have an appointment. The labs were the same. My total out of pocket expenses: ZERO. My meds: $11 CAD or about 12 US.
I moved up here primarily for a job but I must admit it is getting tough even thinking of ever moving south again.
My primary reasons now for staying is that Canada has had nationwide full civil equality for ALL citizens and visitors alike for nearly 5 years, which btw I find to be absolutely priceless! Secondly, my healthcare bills, and I am relatively healthy are zero other than what I pay in payroll taxes. Having said that, I am of a certain age where these bills will only go UP. I have other significant reasons as well.
Back to the topic on hand, I simply no longer understand the USA at all!
Torture sanctioned by the masses and now even Obama, indefinate detention of anyone the government choosed to imprision, for life if need be, zero affordable healthcare and zero healthcare at all for the poor except for ER admissions, lack of civil rights for GLBTQ americans, a never ending war, billions of dollars to bail out wall street and basically zero dollars for main street, etc., etc. I am sure you can fill in the rest.
I am now convinced more than ever that the country will continue to go down the drain until the pain gets too great for a majority of americans to take and they finally revolt. I am not talking tea bagger revolts. I mean civil disobedience or anything other means necessary to force change. I only feel very sorry for all of those who already are in too much pain to bare and who have been demanding for change for awhile now. Unfortunately by my calculations only a very small minority of americans have reached the point of being so pissed they are ready to hit the streets with pitchforks and torches. Until that happens, I am afraid that we can only expect more of the same.
Underground railroad to Canada anyone?
The real problemBasically, here’s the issue:
A lot of medical treatments (surgery, etc.) can be postponed.
If there are no restrictions on preexisting conditions (so anyone can get coverage at any time), someone can:
- Wait until they get sick, injured, or even just have a bunch of stuff to treat
- Sign up for insurance
- Get treated
- Quit insurance
I finally ended up starting my own business – insurance was a lot of the reason for doing so. Small business insurance in the US is “shall-issue” – they can’t deny you, although they can do some preexisting condition exclusions.
As soon as I had insurance, I went ahead and started treating a lot of the issues I had (in the state I started my company in, only things you’ve seen a doctor for the last 6 months are excluded). They lost money on me; however, I am going to continue with them. In the long run, they will make a bit of a profit on me – enough to make it worth doing.
By excluding my preexisting conditions for 6 months, they keep me as a customer, without screwing me over. If I leave, I have to wait 6 months (without treatment) – it’s a strong motivator to keep insured, and get the treatment that keeps me healthy, rather than just waiting until I get sick enough to get a doctor.
In order to remove preexisting conditions, there must be a mandate, or people will just jump in and out, and an insurance system where only the sick have insurance is mathematically unsustainable.
Given the choice between being forced by law to do business with a for-profit corporation, and pay into an (admittedly broken) system – I’d much rather have (reasonable) preexisting condition limitations. Besides, I was without insurance for a long time because it wasn’t worth it to me financially. Forcing me to do it isn’t the answer.
Let’s work on patent reform (a lot of what contributes to the insane cost of some drugs), tort reform (sometimes good medicine isn’t good enough), medical licensing reform (fewer doctors reduces supply, driving up prices), medical education reform (more affordable education = doctors can charge less), and all the other ways we can make insurance affordable, rather than just subsidizing it for the poor by making everyone else pay even more for a horribly broken system.
Coverage for GID in that mandatory government insurance?When whatever gets passed, if anything, still contains the unconstitutional individual mandate, I’m completely confident that the government program it mandates won’t cover any costs for GID treatment, so I’m also completely confident I’ll not be buying it. I’m also confident that I won’t be paying any 2.5% of my gross income for the year to the federal government as a punitive tax.
So, what’ll federal fuck-me-in-the-wallet prison be like for a MtF like me?
I’ve heard of caseswhere people have been denied insurance because they had jaundice as infants. So I could be denied on that basis in spite of the fact that I was fine three days later and I haven’t had a single problem with my liver since. The real kicker is that the conditions that caused me to become jaundiced were necessary for me to be born alive. In some cases, it is not hyperbole to say that life is a “pre-existing condition”.
No Socialized MedicineI would be OK with a ban on discrimination based of preexisting conditions, as long as illnesses stemming from smoking, alcoholism, drug use, or obesity are not covered. Such a package should also include comprehensive tort reform that would put criminal lawyers back in their place. I think this is something republicans can get behind as long as no public option or single payer is involved.
There’s always the obvious, tested, half-the-current-price option:Anything short of universal health coverage creates this kind of trouble. Why put so much time, money and effort into less-effective measures?
You have no clue, obviously.If you aren’t filthy rich, individual healthcare will never be payable.
Even without all these problems being healthy is in no way guaranteed. Cancer and many types of infections don’t care about your behavior. The older you get, the more risk you have. Private health insurance becomes unpayable. The only good solutions is too force people to buy health insurance while young and healthy and in return force lower insurance for older patients.
And obesity is for example itself a condition that is not necessary a consequence of personal behavior, but really a medical problem for many. You are probably the typical asshole that thinks it’s just their own fault.
A person that is obese, but is moving, doing a lot of sports for fitness (no extreme sports!) can well be more healthy than many thin guys.
Oh, extreme sports should of course also not be covered.
And if we ask for such exceptions, don’t you think that the public will also request not to pay for homosexuals?
Tort reform was shown to be just a Republican talking point and actually meaningless, if not harmful to good healthcare. What system do you put in place to help the harmed patients? Oh, no socialized medicine, right?
Republican tort reform will always be a gift to bad apples, they won’t accept a system that deals with them.
I think on health care the blogs of Ezra Klein and Andrew Sullivan are worth a read.
This is why I want to go back home to Canada…Maybe y’all should come up to. Btw, B.C. and Ontario both full cover ALL GID surgeries — you still have to pay for prescriptions but that’s a far cry from what is covered here…
Ontario only with reparative therapyOntario only covers transitional surgeries if you go through reparative therapy first.
Everybody to MA …Kill their healthcare system and punish them for their vote for a racist teabagger.
Van, it is good for we LGB’s butour trans brothers and sisters in Canada have it worse than in some parts of the US; prehaps Mercedes or another Canadian trans could speak to this..
And the frequently hugely necessary and life saving reassignment surgery (A friend explained that dysphoric imperative can and more than infrequently does in fact drive you to suicidality) is available in some places only after submitting yourself to the equivalent of “reparative therapy”
So before you agree to do a Labatts’s comercial at a Blue Jays hockey game whilst sitting with Stephen Harper, you might want to weight carefully the pros and cons
See? The Democrats DO support death panelsThey are called “the insurance industry.”
Kill the BillThe Administration was foolish to begin with to continue on this path and make it such a make or break when the bill was looking like something out of the Republican platform.
No, reading her insurance billA mandate with no cost controls means that for-profit insurance companies rob me with help from the government.
This bill is unacceptable to me as a taxpaying business owner, and it’s political suicide for the Democrats.
Insurance premiums will go up, as they have the last 7 years, but I’ll have no choice but to pay them…even if they exclude the expensive drugs and treatments. So it’s going to cost me more than my share of single-payer, and I still won’t have the large-group benefits that pay the medical bills.
It’s dumb politics, because who am I going to blame for this latest set of premium increases as the companies inflate their way to the deadline for cost controls? Big government.
19+So….what about after you lose your job and try to get health insurance? What then?
This is some utter bull.
Single-payer!
At this point, I say it’s better to have no bill at all.
Even before these concessions, there was no teeth to the whole “can’t deny someone health insurance due to pre-existing conditions” because insurance companies could easily get around it and say your health status was due to a “lifestyle choice>
Acne, depressionAcne and depression have been used to deny someone health insurance.
Having a freakin’ beating heart is a pre-existing condition to these b_stards.
Trust meI’d love to move to Canada.
CNN reported on a casea few months ago in which a California woman fell and broke her wrist while jogging. And her insurance company denied treatment on the grounds that he broken wrist was a pre-existing condition. There is no depth so low that the Best Health Care System in the World(TM) in the Greatest Country in the World(TM) won’t sink to it.
As I’ve commented here before, a few years ago I went blind from cataracts which developed in me much more rapidly than normal. My insurance company denied me coverage They used ever pretext they could think up, including the claim that a writer doesn’t need to be able to see and that the cataracts were a pre-existing condition. My doctor argued with them on my behalf, to no avail.
Finally the state of PA, recognizing that it is not in the public interest to let productive citizens go blind, stepped in and offered me emergency Medical Assistance to pay for the surgery. Without “socialized medicine,” I would be blind to this day.
Socialized medicine saved my hearingWhen I was on active duty and going deaf due to otosclerosis, which is a pre-existing condition as it has a strong genetic component, Tricare doctors performed a stapedectomy on me in a hospital run by the government. My hearing is now back at 70%, which is far better than the nothing I was getting.
My taxes payed for my Tricare, for that single-payer insurance system. It worked out pretty well.
You have no idea what you’re talking about, as usual.
Pre-existing conditionsRequiring insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions is quite pointless unless there are also strict regulations in place about what they can charge those people. The senate bill includes no such cost controls. Making insurance available to everyone will accomplish nothing if people can’t afford it.
The other big problem with the bill is that it mandates government subsidies for health insurance. Again, without rigid cost controls on insurance, that provision is worse than useless. Since the insurers will receive more government money the more they charge, the bill actually includes an incentive for them to keep raising their rates.
The provisions in the bill are counterproductive, to say the least. They will make the existing mess much worse. The bill should be killed now and never resurrected.
This amazes me…We have become an all or nothing nation. Politics has been degraded to nothing more than a sports contest where if one side loses they don’t talk to the other until the next year when they play again.
If you pass this bill you clear a lot of baggage that we have had to deal with for a long time. Once you pass a mandate and guaranteed coverage you will never have to deal with it again. It would be political suicide to reverse it at a later date. Same with the new taxes on insurers and drug makers, ban on lifetime limit coverage, closing the Medicare “donut hole”. All of which are in the Senate bill.
Might our premiums go up. Maybe…Probably…Sure. But they are going up anyway. We might as well get something for it. Plus it clears the baggage so we can then focus on the other issues clogging the system. The reason why this is such a mess now is that we haven’t acted on it in the past 40-60 years. No incremental advancements. And what people on both sides are now asking for is again “all or nothing”. No incremental advancements.
It boggles my mind! I understand your point on your choice of to carry/not to carry insurance to save money, but passing the mandate forces the hand. Just like poker. The market will either adjust because of the outrage at higher prices especially if the insurance companies are still posting record profits or it will result in the public to keep turning over the government until they do something about it. I’d rather have that then nothing.
Mental HealthThis worries me about mental health issues. Is Schizophrenia a “pre-existing condition”? Which mental illness are we “born with” versus the ones we “develop” later in life.
I wish you the best as you try to navigate though this mess. The only reason I have medications for my laundry list (Complex-PTSD, PTSD, Bipolar I, agoraphobia, depression, anxiety, oh my) is because I’m on disability (SSI).
Stop Scaring People Pam!Look I voted for Obama, and I am unbelievably disgusted by his b*tch a$$ed behavior and as a woman of color it took a President opf color to show me how full of Sh*t ALL politicians are, and if they aren’t full of it they are either dead or soon will be.
Bottom line is: President Obama NEVER truly wanted to change anything, this is why he continued to hold out that limp olive branch to Republicans despite the GOP definitively telling him over and over to not bother and don’t be fooled by the Democratic Party in genral because it’s NO coincidence that EVERY NEW session of Democratic Leadership is as weak and pitiful as the previous session of out-going leadership. They tacitly WSANT to maintai the status quo.
I know what I am talking about, I live inside the Washington DC Beltway and have spent time in cuttthroat Washington Poltics.
Now the MOST iumportantr thing I have to say is: I HAVE LIVED With MS FOR OVER 20 YEARS! PAM STOP SCARING PEOPLE! AS FUCKED UP AS THE GOP IS THEY NEVER TURNED THEIR BACK ON ME AND JUST LET ME DIE. Also stop this crap of alluding to children possibly getting MS! Children RARELY get Multiple Sclerosis much less under the age of 19 as the disease usually stars affecting people in thirn late 20′s. So you shouldn’t have added MS to your indictment Pam seriously! You are as BAD AS THE gop WITH THE SCARE TACTICS.
MS (Multiple Sclerosis) IS A CASTROPPHIC ILLNESS, AND IF YOU DON’T HAVE INSURANCE THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO ADDRESS THE ILLNESS NONETHELESS just like they address indivduals with Cancer (Which you left off of your list of “Pre-exisiting” conditions). Sure, getting medical coverage MAY REQUIRE GOING ON MEDICAID AND IF THAT HAPPENS YOUR INCOME WILL BE REDUCED BUT IF IT’S A MATTER OF HAVING YOUR HEALTH TAKEN CARE OF THEN WHAT’S MORE IMPORTANT? Hell you cannot work during an MS flare-up anyway, so your income is automatically reduced.
Look Pam MS isn’t a “chronic illness” where nothing is severely disrupted. People can die/ or lose their ability to fuction substantively. You really need to get your facts straight Pam because now you are starting to lose credibiity wth me and I always admired you but this is BULLSHIT.
And a mess it isThis shit has cost me my livelihood. My security clearance is suspended until my doctor deems that I’m stable enough to be trusted with matters of national security. I’m on disability right now because I can’t work more than a few hours per day, but it’s short-term disability provided by my company’s insurer. It won’t last more than six months, and then what? Either I’m better or I’m not, and if I’m not, I’m screwed.
I can’t afford over $500 per month out of pocket for the drugs that keep me a functioning member of society. Right now the only thing I can do is apply to the V.A. and have my doctor make my case that my problems are a direct result of Military Sexual Trauma and related PTSD. I can deal with everything else so long as the meds are paid for. My anti-psychotic won’t be available in a generic until 2015.
WowYou know, I really doubt Pam is the most appropriate target for your bile.
Hi MauralI seriously doubt that our transexual brothers and sisters have it worse than ANYWHERE in the US. Please cite some expamples of the trans community being treated worse than in Canada as I seriously doubt you will come up with any instances. Currently the following provinces cover some to all of sex reassignment proceedures/meds/councelling, etc. BC, SK, MB, and QC. I cannot find information on the other provinces.
I agree that having to go through the equivalent of reparative therapy sucks, it still gets the patient to where they need to go. This has to change and it will.
While far from perfect coverage, there has been great movement on many levels to finally get full coverage for SRS implemented nation wide. I can assure you that this will NEVER happen in the USA.
I really don’t get your comments regarding me and Harper…a bit off base I think. And as having lived in both the US and Canada I can assure you that Harper is not much more to the right than a good third of all democrats. Pathetic but true.
Let me know when you want to start the immigration process and I will give you a helping hand. xo
I would also exclude as a preexisting condition complete stupidity and ignorance
“THE GOP IS THEY NEVER TURNED THEIR BACK ON ME”Well, they never turned … because they always looked away.
I only picked Harper because he is PMnot questioning your lefty liberal suspected socialist-like-me bona fides.
You know that I have a place next to me on the barricades waiting for you
As for the trans issues, I would refer you to the poster Mercedes, who is a trans-canadian. She has a blog called Dented Blue Mercedes.
Dear VanhattanHow did you acquire a job in Canada? I want to emigrate to B.C. ASAP.
LinusPlease contact me. I’m ready to emigrate, but have no contacts in B.C. and want to work. MBA + 20 years experience in Human Resources, private and public sectors.
Not just the serious stuff eitherI get migraines and have hayfever allergies. These were cited 4 years ago as the reasons why I was refused coverage by HealthNet, PacifiCare, and BC/BS in California.
It simply amazes me how much we supposedly exceptional Americans cannot do.
What’s the goal?Coming to MA for the health care, or destroying it? You punish the wrong people by if your goal is really to “kill it.” All of my friends voted for Coakley, and they are the ones who would pay by losing their health care, not the Brown voters. I happen to still have COBRA, but the mandate here has helped several of my friends.
If you want to move to MA because you like the health care and marriage equality and other nice things here, then you’re contributing to the community and that’s quite a different story.
Don’t most of us here want to see the entire country have health care and marriage equality? I’m angry with my neighbors too, and would have trouble being anything more than civil to anyone who voted for Brown, but this is still one of the best places in the US to live. Brown’s term ends in two years, and we’ll take the seat back then. If the Democrats in the Senate hadn’t been rolling over to the minority Republicans all year anyway, I doubt so many disaffected Democratic voters would have skipped the election. It’s hard to feel like your vote matters when the Democrats can’t get legislation passed with 60 members of their caucus; if you thought you were getting something better after the 2008 election and this is what you’ve had for the past year, it’s easy to see why you might not think electing a Democratic senator makes a big difference.
Thank youI’ve looked up a lot of things on my own.
It will be some time because I’m only a sophomore in college (19 years old) but I want to move there before I’m 30….if not sooner.
Sudden Stop of Meds = ?!?!I know from personal experience that a sudden stop in some psychiatric meds can cause severe problems, not just to the person, but to society at large. I went 4 days … 4 days without my dose of EFFEXOR and it was terrifying at times what it did to my mind. Doctors already know of this danger, but do insurance companies?
Do we really want people with serious mental health issues to be thrown into chaos/violence due to a lack of medication, or gaps in medication? How will soldiers with PTSD fare without decent care AND consistent meds and treatment?
More homicides/suicides to come unless we take this issue seriously. We do NOT know of the long-term effects of these meds, and how each individual will react when the medication is suddenly taken away or unavailable.
It’s not really meant, just a rantI just think the Brown narrative about how MA voters had no incentive to vote for healthcare reform is really disgusting and stupid.
Thanks Maural you are too kind and funny as wellI have read some of Mercedes posts and I am sure I could learn more about trans issues in Canada from her. Thanks for sharing her blog name, I will be sure to tune in.
Having said that, my assertion is the same. I fully suspect that the average trans person here in Canada is light years ahead of where folks are in the US on most if not most areas of their life from legal protections to health care availability. Of course, provinces such as Alberta are not called Texas north for nothing so there is plenty of more hard work to be done to make all of trans healthcare needs a part of the national healthcare system…..but still Canada is far more receptive to change, even in the most conservative areas. I think it is only a matter of years and months and not decades before all the necessary changes will be completed. Here is to hope! xox
you are most welcomeAre you in university at present? Let me know how I can help you and I will be there. Best wishes!
Hi MadWell, I certainly admit that I have been most fortunate. I was a healthcare professional for 20 years in the US, became increasingly distressed about where our country was/is going and began to look for other options. I was hired as a consultant for a CA company for 1.5 years when I lived in the states and then they asked me to apply for an open management position. I did and was then offered a job at their Vancouver headquarters. So I packed my bags with my now husband and our beloved dog who one day showed up at our door and here we still are 4.5 years later. We both now have permanent residency and my husband has applied for his citizenship last October. I do a lot of international travel so they count everyday I am out of the country against the total time you need to be in the country to apply. I will be eligible to apply for citizenship this March however.
I also know of many many couples and other GLBTQ persons who have immigrated into Canada from all over the world. Most primarily to be with the one that they love or to have equal civil rights, etc. They all have very different backgrounds professionally from students to councellors, architects, waiters, nurses, teachers, bankers, programmers, etc. So no matter what you do it is possible to immigrate….you just have to follow some proceedures/rules and play the waiting game and you are in. Let me know if I can be of any assistance to you as I would be happy to help you sort through your options!
Here is a great place to start: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/i…
Cheers
Yep-Uni kidI’m in college right now.
Thank you so much. ::hug::
@LinusI’m totally down for a move to Canada. I’ll put in on a giant coach bus and we’ll shuttle people up there. Can I call you Harriet now?
Really? Is that what you “don’t” think?Well you’ll just have to get over it now won’t you, because I really don’t think I was directing my comment to you. Nor do I “think” my comment was created because I wanted your input.
My comment was speciffically directed to an individual who is using scare tactics, attempting to get individuals living with what the medical industry AND the governemnt considers to be “Catastraophic Illness” into believing that whoever runs this country that they will be left to die now that Obama’s Health Reform is in jeopardy.
Or are you erroneously assuming that I am some wheelchair-bound, bitter individual who, if not for circumastances would have acheived great things? Let me set you straight and maybe you will learn to mind your business.
I’ve lived with MS 22 years, and though I am a progressive/liberal, I can nonetheless assure you that Republican rule hasn’t killed me. In fact I am FULLY ambulatory and earned a MASTER’s of Science Degree in 2006 AFTER having lived with MS for 16 years! I HAVE health insurance covering monthly medical expenses totalling OVER $2500.00 a month. So I CAN if I wanted sit on my haunches and not care about wether anyone else gets insurance. But instead I am letting those who may be newly diagnosed or are otherwise frigthened by Pam’s wild and unsubstantiated accusations that NO the government is NOT going to throw individuals living w/Catastrophic illness to the wolves. Are you serious?WTF!
Now what were YOU assuming about me, and what are YOUR academic acheivements?
Are you serious?I live in Washington DC, unlike you and despite my disdain for Republican polticians I can be fair and attest to there existing some decent but misguided people out there who vote Republican but yet did things for me when I was illl that NO Democrat gay or straight ever did, like make sure I had food in my home when I arrived from the hospital after a life saving surgery, or fix my comouter driving 30 miles to pick it up and another 30 miles to deliever it back. Not to mention loaning me money is I needed it.
But lets get to the meat of the matter since you think you are so cool and glib. What have the Democrats done for us lately?
Every session of New Democratic “Leadership” in just as weak and impotent as the previous one. How can this be? Why is it that no current class of Democratic leadership has a backbone? Do they inbreed?
Democratic party wasn’t hip to the fact that Tea Partiers were organizing or that Cloakely should have been more active in her own political campaign? That they were lsing their base and that indeoendents were fed up.
Now though here you are WHINING that “They (Republicans) NeverAbandoned you because they turned their back” (a.k.a “Abandonment”}. Whatever stop being a victim, because the Democratic Party is in collusion with Republicans, make NO mistake about that. This is the world of Politics and the way they remain viable is to create a conumdrum by confounding us on a daily basis. The media plays into this frenzy regularly creating divisions where applicable.
Seriously leve me alone because you are very naive and annoying.