You know, I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, but I also think that same-sex partners should be able to visit each other in hospitals, they should be able to transfer property, they should be able to get the same federal rights and benefits that are conferred onto married couples. And so, you know, as president, my job is to make sure that the federal government is not discriminating and that we maintain the federal government’s historic role in not meddling with what states are doing when it comes to marriage law. That’s what I’ll do as president.
– Candidate Barack Obama, in an interview with ABC’s Jake Tapper, June 16, 2008
Well it’s 1/19/2010, and the federal government is still discriminating against the LGBT community, and as we’ve read in recent days, our rights are getting refiled down to the bottom of the inbox of To-Dos because of political concerns. Take the election to fill Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat. The administration is already crowing that LGBT rights are just not important enough to address if she loses (and Dems go below a 60 seat majority). Kerry Eleveld of The Advocate, in her “View from Washington” column, lays out the frustrating reality of the “Coakley Effect” — it was discussed at that top-secret LGBT honchos meeting last week.
Turns out the Coakley race is not only key to bagging health reform so Democrats can finally pivot toward other legislation, but it also might serve as a bellwether for Dems on social issues. That reality was apparently a point of discussion at the emergency meeting called by major donors and the LGBT lobby groups last week in order to strategize about repealing “don’t ask, don’t tell.”Many in the room lamented that the political climate is not good for pushing a pro-equality agenda right now. “If she loses, all bets are off,” said one attendee of the meeting. “The Democrats will stay away from social issues, and focus like a laser beam on jobs.
To show you that there is no plan on our issues, witness this:
One of the most telling conversations I had with an attendee of that closed-door LGBT meeting centered around fact that the community doesn’t have a high-level adviser in the White House who feels LGBT issues to the core of their being. Because of that, this person noted, there’s no overarching architecture for passing LGBT legislation amid the intricate web of White House planning. Thus, every gay item is essentially a one-off, and once it’s passed, the community has to start from scratch to find a new opening for the next item.
In other words, from day one, whoever is ostensibly representing our issues — inside the admin or in our orgs — didn’t hammer out any kind of workable plan. At all. They have no juice with this administration and when the fundraising letters go out and land in your mail/inbox, it’s time to let them know how effective they have been. Who knows why this is, but I’ll speculate for a second, based on nothing but observations. During the transition, a large slice of our leaders in charge of these kinds of matters had their eggs in the Hillary basket in 2008, and thus had to build a bridge with few relationships of note with the Obama team. That slows down any sort of progress in getting infrastructure in place. Our LGBT liaison in the White House, Brian Bond, has largely been invisible, so it’s hard to say what level of advocacy he represented, how much juice he has to follow through independently, etc. We can only look at the result….an emergency meeting now that the horse is out of the barn and the barn is burning down.
“Did we as a community do something wrong when we gave lot of money, made demands about very specific legislation, but we didn’t get ourselves a power broker on the inside?” the person questioned, betraying a hint of regret inside players sometimes display upon realizing the limits of their influence. “We may have won some battles but lost the war because we didn’t get a powerful passionate advocate at the upper levels.”
Honestly, if Coakley wins, do you think Congress and the President will jump right onto our issues? If so, I have a bridge to sell you. The window of opportunity to prioritize civil rights for a loyal donor/voter constituency is closing on more than one front. Have you heard what the President has said about the federal Prop 8 case, now entering its second week?
::crickets chirping::
David Mixner hits the nail on the head about the silence, saying “Obama’s Silence Is Hurting Us Now“:
Isn’t it about time that President Obama find a way to help us instead of sitting quietly while his words are used against us time and time again? Not being for marriage equality is hard enough for us to stomach but now to remain totally silent while is words “marriage is between a man and a woman” have been used against us everywhere. Is he really content to allow his words to be used against us in elected bodies, in the courtroom and on the ballot? Doesn’t such systematic use of his quote demand that he stand up by our side?His silence is killing us.
The latest to use in full force his words against marriage equality are the lawyers fighting the Olson/Bois case before the Federal Courts…How much longer is Obama going to remain silent while the bigots use his own words against our struggle for freedom?
Apparently for the duration, as long as the White House feels politically vulnerable, and believes that LGBT citizens are not seen as in dire need of removal of institutional discrimination. There is no urgency being created by those who advocate for us, or direction to tell the community how to express the frustration and lack of dignity with which Congress and this White House has treated the LGBT community. As candidate and constitutional scholar Obama said in the above quote, he believes that “marriage is between a man and a woman,” despite full knowledge this is ridiculous from a civil perspective. Yet his promises to remove any federal discrimination have turned into delay and deny for one political reason after another.
UPDATE: Howie Klein has an idea about where gay donors should go…
Blue America has embarked on a Better Democrats campaign for this cycle, starting with this ActBlue page, Send The Democrats A Message They Can Understand. Please take a look. We are targeting bad Democrats and trying to assist grassroots progressives who are opposing them.The Democrats who voted against the Matthew Shepard bill– again, all Blue Dogs– are serial homophobes who oppose gay fairness at every opportunity, just the way Republicans do. Blue America opposes and hopes to defeat each and every one of them — Dan Boren (OK), Chris Carney PA), Travis Childers (MS), Lincoln Davis (TN), Joe Donnelly (IN), Brad Ellsworth (IN), Parker Griffith (AL, who has since left the Blue Dogs to officially join the Republican Party), Baron Hill (IN), Frank Kratovil (MD), Mike McIntyre (NC), Charlie Melancon (LA, a candidate for the U.S. Senate in a state with a lot of gay people), Walt Minnick (ID), Mike Ross (AR), Heath Shuler (NC), and Gene Taylor (MS)– not with a worse or equally bad Republican but with a better Democrat.
If you donate any money at all the the DCCC, most of it will go towards bolstering anti-gay Democrats in trouble with the Democratic base. Your money will go to make sure dedicated and relentless homophobes like Chris Carney, Frank Kratovil, Baron Hill, Walt Minnick, Joe Donnelly, Brad Ellsworth and Travis Childers are re-elected so they can continue voting against gay families.
And the DCCC has already started trying to destroy progressive candidates like Doug Tudor in favor of conservative shills like Lori Edwards in Florida. At the very least, we hope to eviscerate the power of their Blue Dog caucus and make it less able to work against the interests of gay people and other Americans who are not part of the corporatocracy conservatives seem to believe should get all the breaks.
Again, if you’d like to help, this is a very good alternative to donating to the DNC, DCCC or DSCC: Blue America.



You know, I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, but I also think that same-sex partners should be able to visit each other in hospitals, they should be able to transfer property, they should be able to get the same federal rights and benefits that are conferred onto married couples. And so, you know, as president, my job is to make sure that the federal government is not discriminating and that we maintain the federal government’s historic role in not meddling with what states are doing when it comes to marriage law. That’s what I’ll do as president.
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Win or lose, we loseIt wouldn’t matter if they had a 70-seat majority, they’d still ignore our issues. There’s no leadership from the WH, which thus sends a very clear message to ignore, delay, forget. Whatever Obama believes anymore, I think he has a lousy set of advisers on the economy, on the wars, on civil rights, on privacy rights.
Maybe we need four Palin yearswith republican majorities in both houses to discredit conservatism for a generation and to wwake up the dems that we ARE willing to let them hand..
Rahm is the noxious demeanor of Karl Rovebut without the political skill
It’s the MathLook, larger groups get attention, smaller groups get ignored (especially when there are larger groups that don’t like a particular smaller group).
We’re about 4% of the electorate nationwide (if exit polls in presidential elections are approximately reliable). A little under 3 out of 4 of us vote for Democrats, which means we’re about 3% of the vote in a presidential race. (Presumably, these percentages hold in off-year and special elections, but data are limited.)
Okay, you might say that 3% is big enough to matter, given that many presidential races are won by smaller margins. Except that 3% doesn’t matter, given the nonsense that is the Electoral College, because we’re concentrated in what are usually Blue states (ignoring the current aberrational debacle in Massachusetts). We might be well over 3% of the Democratic vote in, say, New York state, but we don’t really matter to a presidential candidate there because the Democratic candidate usually wins by much higher margins.
In other words, we lack sufficient clout as voters to earn obligations from politicians through our votes. And that’s why allies among other voting demographics matter so much. Until we get lots more straight voters willing to vote with and for us, politicians will continue to solicit our contributions and then ignore us after the election.
So: You can huff and puff — or whine, if that’s your thing — all you want when politicians don’t do what you want. But politicians think only about the next election, and we’ll never get equal rights until a much, much larger percentage of voters let the politicians know that they give a damn about our equality.
This isn’t right. This isn’t the way it should be. But it’s the way it is. If you want power in America, you need allies among your fellow voters if you want true and lasting allies among politicians.
Oh, get over blaming RahmObama hired him. The boss is always responsible for the doings of his underlings.
Sad but true.Good post, Pam. Sad but true. Croakley win won’t change a thing unfortunately.
Just making a commentand I realise that Obama is a naive dreamer who hired a second class Machiavelli as opposed to GWB who got the real thing
Well, it’s worth noting…When Obama and other Dems were promising our community the world in the summer of 2008, no one–no one!–was anticipating Dems would have 60 seats in the Senate. They got 59, which exceeded even the most optimistic predictions. And 60 came later when Specter defected.
Obama’s silenceIts not just Obama, its the entire democratic party. If Coakley loses and probably will, serves the dems right. They’re afraid to stand up to the GOP. LGBT voters have been thrown under the bus over and over. Eliminate the economic downturn, the wars, health insurance reform, homeland security and can any of us really believe that things would be different? We’ve see marriage equality defeated in Maine, New York and New Jersey and where were the democrats on this? SILENT! What needs to be done and NOW is to get the message out loud and clear to the dems that unless they deliver, they’ll no longer be able to take our votes and financial support for granted. All of us need to contact our representatives, for or against, and spell it out for them. I’ve already withdrawn support of the DNC and actually wrote a letter to its same-sex marriage foe chairman Tim Kaine exactly what I think of him and the party. The dems can’t win an election with us. That’s our leverage and they need to hear it, time to get tough with them or they’ll pay the price. Enough is enough! No more excuses, no more delays.
Well. Lesbians can and truly should ally with and jointhe National Organisation of Women, who embrace and support Lesbian issues including child issues and healthcare
We could do very well in NOW, politically.
Actually Specter made 59It didn’t hit 60 until Franken was seated. If the election in Mass is close, The Democrats should return the favor and make certain Brown is no seated until say August.
Oh, now you’d be surprised about this….I agree that the gays in California or Massachusetts might not be able to flip it but there are enough in Florida. Maybe even Ohio. Washington and Oregon are possibilities in the near future? And there is a big gay vote in Texas and over the next couple of presidential election cycles, Texas may come into play.
It’s not the what of the electorate, it’s where that electorate is…
And until the GLBT community can threaten the Dems on that electoral level, nothing will get done.
Well, unless the Dems discipline Diaz and Slasher MonserrateNo money for the party; I don’t like dems than can be bought by millionaires to tax only the poor
What does that mean? Just ignore and forgetThat Obama’s top advisor is an odious little toad that, not only would toss GLBTs (and all progressives) under a bus, he would delight in doing so?
That Tapper quote just burns me upWhat is DOMA but the inteference of the federal government in marriage law?
What was “Gawd in the Mix” but the use of highly charged political rhetoric by a presidential candidate during a political campaign here LGBt marriage rights?
But your bigger point is right Pam, “our leaders” have much to answer for…
Now, not that I have a problem with Obama focusing on jobs. But, you have to be able to do more than 1 thing at a time. Or so President Obama says.
Yeah, that’s right (ish)I think I was remembering it was clear when specter flipped that Franken was going to win as well. It was just a matter of how much of spoiled brat WATB Norm Coleman was going to be.
What we have is a donkey stuffed with 27 tons of carrotsWe’ve tried bribing the donkey to move forward with all the carrots it can eat, but until we pull out the stick and give it a good whack or too, it ain’t gonna take a step forward. We are hearing non-GLBT party loyalists claim we’re going to destroy the party that we’re pursuing mutually assured destruction. That may be true, but I belive if we go down that path, Democrats will wake up that we’re not going to mindlessly vote for them anymore and that they have to actually do something to get out money, our volunteerism and our votes. At that point they will change to avoid mutually assured destruction.
First of all…they are quite correct that there is no pressing issue here. There is no real need for urgency.
Second of all, some people, particularly at the Advocate, are WAY to fixated on marriage. The President has already spoken on his position on marriage. Like it or not the people of California did not support gay marriage, and neither does the leadership of the country. If people want to make marriage their Waterloo then they deserve to lose because the elected leadership of both parties and of the government in general, have already closed that door in terms of support. If they were talking about civil unions, then an argument could be made that he should get involved. But there is no rational reason for him to stick his neck out fighting to reinstate gay marriage in California when he is publically against that position.
People really do need to come to terms with the fact that the public and the politicians are not there yet.
We supposedly got that with 8 years of BushHow quickly we forget!
This is a well reasoned positionand holds alot of truth. People like to point ot polls as some kind of gague of where the electorate is on LGBT issues. They forget that the only polls that matter are on election day. If VOTERS actively oppose gay rights then the pols will follow suit. Its just that simple. LGBT by itself is too small. larger coalitions are needed…and that larger coalition does not exist on the ground.
You’re right, we need to be good little House Faggotsand not demand what “real” people get without asking. Now go fetch some cash for your master, and be quick about it!
Thing is…“They” aren’t even talking about civil unions.
I don’t remember the President sticking his neck out in the Referendum 71 campaign in Washington and that’s his actual stated position. Of course, there’s the convenient cover there of “I don’t get involved in state marriage law.”
The Obama Administration. is not sticking his neck out for anything gay related right now.
I honestly don’t need to think about marriage equalityI want Obama to hold to his promise to eliminate discrimination in jobs — ENDA, DADT. Getting those through are far more important to more people than marriage, which has to ultimately be decided in the courts, as we see now.
He’s not moved on those either and the American public has been been in favor of both, so what’s the problem on the Hill and in Congress. They are out of sync with their constituents, Republicans and Dems.
the voter is irrelevantand the majority is irrelevant, because we have a constitutional democracy. our constitution was created to protect minorities like us against mean-spirited majorities. this fact is conveniently forgotten when one wishes to apologize to the president for forgetting that he swore to uphold the constitution, not the “will of the people”.
Amen to That!There are a great many people who don’t realize the extent to which the legal basis for gay rights is in the women’s movement and in the battle for choice. The notion that we have privacy rights in our own bodies and in our choice of partners all stem from the same sources.
Plus, as far as NOW goes, that’s a major ally. (Though many would be surprised today to learn that wasn’t always so.)
Let me add this, Geek….I will agree with you that marriage seems a priority for our community and the media is obsessed with the marriage issue as well (well they get DADT in there sometimes)
The problem is when I see and hear homophobes discussing “gay marriage” they are not simply talking about “gay marriage” they are talking about any and all civil rights for LGBT’s. Rarely (even you it seems) really separates out the marriage issue from everything else.
Yes, and this does happenat the state level. Not just lesbians, but LGBT organizations as a whole frequently cooperate closely with NOW, NARAL and Planned Parenthood, depending on which are most active in a particular community or state. I can’t tell you how many other volunteers I know at Equal Rights Washington who, like me, volunteer almost interchangeably for PP, NARAL etc. also.
the most common anti-”gay marriage” argument I hearfrom the other side is really not anti-marriage at all, but more generally simply anti-LGBT existence. there is a phrase a frined of mine uses which sums it up well:
They aren’t against gay marriage, they’re against gays.
Exactly!And if we were discussing employment discrimination or DADT, there would be very little or no change in the rhetoric [unit cohesion (DADT) vs. family cohesion (marriage) vs. co-worker cohesion (ENDA)]
Just like the failed “leaders”
…of state marriage equality fights who refuse to take responsibility for their bad decisions, if it’s time for a national Come To Jesus maybe it’s time for those LGBTs who kept telegraphing to CANDIDATE Obama … and, then, President Obama … that he could keep pulling essentially antigay bullshit and we’d still believe he loved us and keep rimming him for it…to be called to accountability.
Over and over and over and over again gays kept channeling Sally Field: “He likes us! He really likes us!”
An equally relevant analogy is the politico version of the Happy Drunk who is ennabled [effectively encouraged to keep drinking, for those not familiar with rehab speak] by forgiveness and tolerance.
The one Dem candidate to defend his homophobic opposition to marriage equality in the name of God?
Boo! But you use the G-word which proves you love us, so that’s okay.
Refuse to talk to the gay press?
Boo! But you love us, so that’s okay.
Refuse to dump the guy you’ve been plainly informed is “the poster boy for the African-American ‘ex-gay’ movement” because he can bring too many black votes to you; call him one of your favorite performers?
Boo! But you love us, so that’s okay.
Celebrate your announcement for the Presidency at the church of Rev. James Meeks, one of the most rabidly antigay pastors in Chicago? Lie about your gay rights record in Illinois? Misrepresent your position on DOMA? Leave LGBTs out of your catalogues of various minorities in major campaign speeches ["Race" - Philadelphia]? Joke about not being gay at Howard University? Start backtracking on DADT even before being sworn in? Refuse to do anything more against Prop 8 but issue a limp dick written statement? Invite one of the best known antigay pastors in the world to join you on the Inaugural platform? Select few gays with any real involvement in LGBT rights activism for your transition team?
Boo!!!! But you love us, so that’s okay.
Forget blaming the gays who DARED ever support anyone else for not being adequate therapists for any Obamites too immature to work with them…there were plenty of gays deep in Obama’s camp. Why aren’t you asking THEM why they didn’t demand Obama appoint a LGBT liaison to work out of the White House with our community?
Obama’s deputy campaign manager, Steve Hildebrand and Chris Hughes, Director of Online Organizing, are gay, as were several on his wide campaign staff. Then there were all those activists on the Obama LGBT Leadership Council including:
Stampp Corbin, Paris Barclay, Rick Garcia, Gordene Mackenzie, Nancy Nangeroni,Donna Red Wing, Penny Robbins, Stephen Smith, Eric Stern, and Tobias Wolff.
And, many of them, and many other LGBTs, continued to defend [enable] Obama after he was elected and each time he sucker-punched us again [save for Corbin who finally wised up]. The only thing that drowned out the orgasmic screams for him at the White House Tea were the orgasmic screams for him at the HRC dinner. And too many are STILL telling us to sit down, be quiet, and wait for our piece of pie in the sky!
Instead of amateur psychoanalysis of others, recognize that this monstrous situation we’re end was allowed to happen by LGBTs! We suggest all of the above why Obama’s and the DNC’s promises to LGBTs are in the gutter soaked in their boozy excuses?
Correction:
Instead of amateur psychoanalysis of others, recognize that this monstrous situation we’re in was allowed to happen by LGBTs! We suggest you ask all of the above why Obama’s and the DNC’s promises to LGBTs are in the gutter soaked in their boozy excuses?
Lying to me has a COSTYou can ignore our issues and deny your campaign promises, but come 2010 elections,, when hetero Democrats come askin’ for my funds, and my volunteer hours, and my votes.
Funny you should ASK…if only ya hadn’t dry f*cked me raw, when you had HUGE majorities, and all the goodwill, and approval ratings near 80%…you would have had all of that AND MORE of what ya wanted, we BOTH would.
So tell lousy little F*CKTARD Rahm, to pull golden eggs out of someone else’s ass to finance your ELECTIONS, mine’s kind sore.
Jeez, Michael, your essays…but essentially, you’re right. Obama telegraphed that he was willing to traffic in homophobia very early on in the campaign. And our leaders more or less said that that was acceptable.
(No, I’m not inserting snarky Clinton comments here…but you know that I’m thinking of them)
but, yes…after all, “nobody can do to you what you don’t allow” applies here.
Cue the “but then go vote for the Republicans” comments but I’ll stand by every word of this.
Rahm was hired to get sh*t DONEhe was a HUGE FAIL. If you don’t want to hears that…OH WELL.
TOAST…what an apt IMAGE
Except that our opposition…loses public support dramatically when it comes to everything other than marriage. Which is why the Cons LOVE pushing marriage to the forefront. Gay marriage is a losing issue with the electorate.
Unfortunately many activists and the LGBT media have become obsessed with the marriage issue. You do not see them stoking up nearly as much energy and resources to press congress on ENDA. Imagine the sort of campaign that could have been run in support of ENDA instead of all of these failed marriage initiatives.
“whoever is ostensibly representing our issues — inside the admin or in our orgs — didn’t hammer out any kind of workable plan”
And yet Joe ‘Jan. 20, 2017′ Solmonese has cashed a bunch of paychecks over the last 12 months…
…and would not appear to be inclined to give any of it back.
As this past weekend’s hate rally at the Capitol so amply demonstratedWhat else do you call it when christian hate groups get on buses en masse and hold a rally, screaming about sin and Sodom ad nauseam? And it’s not even marriage we’re working for, but CUs! They’re not against gay people getting married, they’re against us continuing to breathe.
ActuallyI will continue to support the Democrats financially because I’m not a single issue voter and LGBT issues are NOT the most important thing on my agenda.
I call it: ‘Marriage Derangement Syndrome’
All gay marriage, all the time.
All you have to do to see the extent of the syndrome is to look at that ridiculous ‘gayest cities’ thing at The Late Advocate.
Anti-discrimination law? Not a consideration – even though its just a wee bit of a big deal to those outside of The Late Advocate’s target demographic.
Marriage law? Yee Hah! As I noted over at ENDABlog, the rationale employed by the genius at The Late Advocate means that any city in Steve King’s Iowa congressional district (I picked Sioux City at random) is 6 points higher (+4 vs. – 2) in at least one category than Madison, Wisconsin, simply because Iowa has court-mandated gay marriage and Wisconsin has an anti-marriage amendment even though Madison has trans-inclusive anti-discrim law (at least locally.)
Derangement.
Pure derangement.
Actually, you’re incorrectGoing back to the 1990′s, it’s the fundies that have pushed this issue into the media spotlight. They’ve been doing that from the beginning, we’ve reacted to them…you have it backwards.
And who puts these ballot initiatives out there? Not our side…and we do and should have to defend ourselves. Remember we won in the California courts and in the legislature and in Maine legislature and the executive branches as well.
The fundies have been stoking it by constantly putting the issue to ballot initiatives, Geek, don’t get THAT twisted.
And what are we supposed to do, roll over like Fido under those circumstances?
i think the reason the press focuses on marriageis because it is marriage where the action is. do you see any states seriously considering enda-like bills? sadly, no. and the courts? again, no. so of course the press will concentrate on marriage because we have marriage and domestic partnership laws, initiatives and court cases ongoing in many places. the press is simply following the real news. dadt and enda are nation-level and so the press won’t talk much about them until the one place they will be debated, congress, gets off its butt and starts work in earnest.
i can walk and chew gum at the same time.i support worthy candidates, legislation and organizations, not a political club that supports 2-tier citizenship. you lay out a false dichotomy.
I am not a single issue voter eitherAnd I think that at times LGBT can be four issues;
but don’t come across all righteous simply becausae you can be a sophisticated quisling; no matter the polish or the posh, a quisling you remain/
btwLGBT issues are not separate from any other issue congress debates. we’re affected by all the legislation, of to our detriment because we’re left behind. this will continue to be the case so long as the federal government actively discriminates against us and our families.
heath care is an LGBT issue
defense is an LGBT issue
housing is an LGBT issue
employment is an LGBT issue
must I go on?
Yes looking back I was happy about Rham’s hireprecisely because he had a ball-buster reputation, I thought he go in and knock some heads.
Alas, the nay-Sayers at the time were corect. The heads he cracked were those of the progressive wing of the Democratic party (as he ALWAYS had done).
I was under the misguided impression he’d pivot his skillset to cracking GOP and conservadem heads. Oh well…
Donate to candidates and pols with proven recordsI set up an ActBlue page to collect money for NEw York State Senators that voted “Yes” on Marriage Equality in December. You can donate to one or all of them here:
http://www.actblue.com/page/ne…
I sadly, totally agree with thisThe GOP is quaking in their boots not to become the target of the ultra right wing teabagger’s and get picked off in a primary. Unfortunately, we (GLBTs and progressives in general) may have to bring some hurt on our own party before they wake up to the fact that they can’t keep running us over with the bus and we’ll keep coming back for more.
Even if it sadly plays out as it did in for the teabaggers in NY-23. Yes, you may have to lose some to win some.
Polling shows the public is ahead of our leaders in GLBT equality issues, across the board. If we can’t move them to act on principle or courage, maybe it’s time to inject a little fear.
And the larger issue about Geek’s unrequited boyfriend…
… is not just his having shelved [at best] his promises to LGBTs…it’s his incompetence GENERALLY that is hurting ALL Americans!
As I wrote yesterday, if he had any natural abilities to lead and govern…let alone BALLS…the psychotic tea bag/anti government movement could have been smothered in its crib.
Instead, he remained mostly silent all summer while they grew and grew and grew before he finally, too late, took his argument for health care reform to Congress and the public. That he learned nothing from how close he came to losing the Party’s nomination because of how long it took him to put out the growing Jeremiah Wright fires is NOT a good sign.
One can understand [though NEVER forgive] how his illogical thinking came to be about abandoning us, but to allow the fight for Ted Kennedy’s seat to EVER get this bad is inexplicable, inexcusable, and unforgiveable…even if, in the end, Coakley wins.
Rating Obama’s promises at the 1-year mark http://www.politifact.com/trut…
14 broken promises
http://politifact.com/truth-o-…
87 stalled promises
http://politifact.com/truth-o-…
I don’t need to say where LGBT issues are located
D*mn it! Why is it always about the Sodomites?Always about the boys..
what about we Gommorhaians?
Skill or kill?Rove like the other GOP sharks knows how to dive in for the kill. The Dems are weak-kneed, weak-willed and waste time fighting each other. This doesn’t change, year after year, decade after decade. Add to that the envy factor. Just as with Clinton, many of the Senate’s barons (aka alte kockers) resent him because they think they should be in his chair.
You are 100% right Michael“During the transition, a large slice of our leaders in charge of these kinds of matters had their eggs in the Hillary basket in 2008, and thus had to build a bridge with few relationships of note with the Obama team.”
That statement is utterly false. That’s for calling out the list of ‘high level’ LGTB Obama supporters and staffers.
We ‘the LGBT’ community have only ourselves to blame. We did this to ourselves. We work against each other in every way. United we would be a powerful force. Please stop asking Obama and the DNC for their help. We need to help ourselves.
Howie Klein has an idea and a plan. We should target candidates that have a proven record of pro equality work and also target candidates that don’t-regardless of party. We don’t need the White House or our lame national LGTB learders and their organizations. We just need our checkbook and a nice note to specifically identify why they have earned our financial support.
YesWe need to develop relationships with other national organizations to increase our political influence.
I don’t know where you get those 3-4% stats, but we are a MUCH larger percentage of the population than that. Don’t forget to emphasis these statistics at every opportunity. 89% of Americans support employment non discrimination
79% of Americans support lifting DADT.
We have the support of the American people. Why is passing these laws politically risky???
And not just state law.As most of us realize, DOMA is a blatant violation of the constitution, specifically of the “full faith and credit” clause and the tenth amendment. Yet the constitutional scholar in the White House continues to defend it, even though he acknowledged its illegality during the campaign. And there are still people who insist he isn’t talking out of both sides of his mouth on LGBT issues.
So, could you please tell us, Mr. Not-a-single-issue-voter,which issues you think Obama has been good on? Good enough to merit continued support? You’ve been asked this before, and you’ve never come up with a response. Please do tell us now. We’re all quivering with expectation.
The Dems are not a united partyso you can’t really ‘punish’ the Dems by voting in Brown or withholding all democratic support until they ‘get it.’ We just need to target our financial support and campaign work towards pro-lgtb candidates. We can’t leave the Patrick Murphy’s out in the cold or Sen Merkley from Oregon etc. These folks are fighting for us and will be targeted by the right. We have to demonstrate to current reps. and potential candidates we have their backs, and we will fight for and protect them. Otherwise they will all abandon us. The opposition is fighting so fierce because we are making progress.
And as an FYI- Congressional and Senate offices are open to the public. Stop in some time and talk to the folks there. That is if you can get past the tea baggers that are camped out in every office. And we wonder why they (the dems) listen to the squeeky wheels…..
Hey, watch it.Joe is a very nicely turned-out young man, and when he goes to the White House, he folds the napkins for their cocktail receptions very nicely. What more could we want?
I wish we were so luckyas to have nothing but silence from Obama. His actions have hurt us just as much, if not more. Defending DOMA (and in particularly vile language, as we all recall), pressuring the House to drop Alcee Hastings’ bill to end DADT… If it were only silence, that would be bad enough. This White House has worked against us quite actively, more times than just once. And HRC continues to stick with him, as do our resident Obamabots here on the Blend. People who think a Republican president would be significantly worse than Obama need to take another good look at the DOMA hate brief.
Agreed.Unfortunately Obama, like Bush before him, seems to regard the constitution as an pesky, inconvenient detail, to be brushed aside whenever it gets in the way of the executive will.
SciFi you are the problemyou are an example of the problems with our community. We are not a united force. If you haven’t got the memo- civil unions are off the table. Please do not continue to imply that our equality is negotiable. Second please stop making comments like ‘the people of california did not support marriage.’ Just because it lost at the ballot box does NOT equate with ALL the people of Cal. It just means that a larger percentage of voters that voted that day on that issue didn’t support marriage. Because Americans DO support our marriage, but because it doesn’t really affect them they are not motivated to vote. But for our opposition it is a holy day of obligation to vote. Get it?
You really do need to come to term with that.
I’d refine the support finer than Pro-LGBT candidates, to LGBT candidatesIf those feminists in NOW want my support pick a lesbian or trans woman to run, if Black and Latino Civil Rights groups want my support select an LGBT POC. same with enviromentalists, and anti war folks you want my support, OK you’ll have it when you run a queer.
Cuz I bankrolled too many straight politicians and got NADA, I’m DONE doing that. The worst that can happen is the LGBT politician has to live EXACTLY with their failures as I do.
bat sh*t crazies…..they just aren’t that IN TO YOUand those that might be in to you….would make your skin crawl.
does he do windows?
No. Joe gets the coffee.
You misunderstand meI was not suggesting a blanket withdrawal of GBLT support of all dems, leaving Murphy to twist in the wind, or God forbid, Coakley to lose to Brown.
But, we live in fear of the prospect of the GOP, and the Democrats exploit that.
In my own state, some centrist Democrats see no difference between viralent homophobe Harold Ford and great supporter Kirsten Gillibrand for the NY Dem Senate nominee.
I’m making it very clear to everyone, if the NY Dem party nominates Ford over Gillibrand, they can COUNT ME OUT! I don’t care if that elects GOP Pataki. I will not vote for, donate to, or volunteer for Harold Ford. I will not be a good little team player.
If that makes me a left-wing teabagger, so be it.
The Moderates are goneand a Palin presidency with Republic-god majorities would be true wingnuttery on a scale undreamed of…
If Ford winsit will be because the NYC Hispanic mafia did a deal with him for votes.
Diaz has to go.
period.
And before anyone accuses me of being anti-hispanic, let me remind you that I was a Spanish citizen and when Diaz et all claim that homophobia “comes out of our Spanish culture” (which they did) I can stand up and say from experience that they’ve no legitimacy to discuss Spanish anything.
Well…
Well, one did get through one house of the Ohio Legislature – and I think that West Virginia has made a serious go of it a couple of times recently.
But, I’m more interested in an implication of that statement: that the ‘consideration’ of bills to make legitimate the ENDAs of New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire and Maryland aren’t ‘serious.’
And I most wholeheartedly agree.
Maura……we already have Republican majorities in both houses. And they have already discredited conservatism for a generation.
It doesn’t matter.
No Kevin, you’re wrongWHILE we were discussing those things, they were in Africa discussing and encouraging Final Solution