BLEND EXCLUSIVE: Trial analysis by the National Center For Lesbian Rights‘ (NCLR’s) Shannon Minter.
**Update from Daimeon: Click below the fold to see a video blog from Kate Kendell.
As other bloggers and news outlets have reported, the U.S. Supreme Court issued a final order today preventing the trial from being broadcast. The 5-4 opinion was unsigned, meaning that its authorship was not attributed to any one justice. The court largely ducked the substantive issue of whether federal trials should be more accessible to a broader public,
holding that the San Francisco district court judges had not followed the proper procedures when they amended the local court rules to allow the broadcast. Justices Roberts, Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, and Alito were in the majority.
In a dissenting opinion, joined by Justices Stevens, Ginsburg and Sotomayor, Justice Breyer challenged the majority’s interpretation of the rule-changing procedures and strongly disputed that the broadcast would cause harm. Justice Breyer described the majority’s ruling as an “extraordinary intervention,”"micromanaging” local court procedure, and stated that “the public interest weighs in favor of granting access to the courts.”
Although many had anticipated this outcome, it is deeply disappointing. As Geoff Kors of Equality California pointed out in his statement about the ruling, this trial presents an unprecedented opportunity to educate people across the country about our community and about why the Constitution requires that same-sex couples be given access to marriage. The public could only benefit from the opportunity to see firsthand that the arguments made by the proponents of Prop 8, both during the campaign and now in court, are so clearly false and demeaning. Those of us attending the trial will have to fill the gap by passing along as much of what we see and hear as we can. NCLR will continue to tweet live from the court – follow @NCLRights for frequent updates on testimony.
Trial resumed this morning with David Thompson’s cross-examination of Professor George Chauncey. Thompson asked primarily about the progress LGBT people have made, politically and in popular culture, in the last 20 years.
In his cross, Thompson highlighted employment nondiscrimination bills, the increasing numbers of gay and lesbian elected officials, and the very recent increase in support for domestic partnerships and civil unions among national Democratic leaders. He also focused on the increasing depiction of gay men and lesbians in popular culture, such as the TV series “Will and Grace” and films such as Brokeback Mountain and Philadelphia.
Prof. Chauncey acknowledged that LGBT people have made progress. But he also stressed the limited nature of that progress and the persistence of severe discrimination and hostility toward gay people. Even today, he noted, there are remarkably few films that include openly LGBT characters and a continued paucity of scholarship exploring the history and contemporary reality of LGBT lives (to mention just two examples).
Thompson’s questions were directed to an important legal issue in this case -whether systemic bias against lesbians and gay men prevents them from being treated by others as equal citizens in the political process. In prior cases, federal courts have sometimes considered that issue in deciding whether to apply heightened scrutiny to laws that classify on the basis of a particular characteristic such as race, gender, religion, disability, age, and so forth. If a court determines that widespread (and unjustified) bias prevents a group from being able to fully protect itself in the elected branches of government, it is more likely to find that the group should be afforded heightened constitutional protection under the federal equal protection clause.
On that score, it’s worth noting – and the Olson/Boies team will no doubt argue – that laws that discriminate on the basis of race are still subject to the strictest type of constitutional review, even though it’s been more than a half century since Brown v. Board of Education was decided and nearly half a century since the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Likewise, laws that discriminate based on sex are still subject to a heightened level of scrutiny even though a majority of the voting public are women. By contrast, for example, there is still no federal statute prohibiting private employers from discriminating based on sexual orientation, despite decades of effort to get those protections passed. And the federal government itself still openly discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation in federal military, marriage, and immigration law-as do the laws of most states. By any measure, anti-gay bias continues to permeate our laws and culture.
After the cross-exam, Therese Stewart, attorney for the City of San Francisco, asked Professor Chauncey to analyze some of the messages used in the Yes on 8 campaign. Stewart focused on statements made by one of the official proponents of Prop 8, Dr. Hak-Shing William (“Bill”) Tam. Stewart played excerpts of Dr. Tam’s deposition, featuring some extraordinarily inflammatory messages in campaign documents authored by Tam.
One of Dr. Tam’s publications claimed that if Prop 8 did not pass, other states would “fall into Satan’s hands.” The document also claimed that “more children would become homosexuals,” and that the next item on the “gay agenda” would be to “legalize having sex with children.” Prof. Chauncey connected these messages, delivered by one of Prop 8′s official sponsors, with the long history of fear-mongering and demonization of lesbians and gay men that he eloquently described yesterday.
In the afternoon, the court heard testimony from social psychologist Anne Peplau, one of the country’s leading academic experts on couples and relationships. Kudos to Christopher Dusseault of Gibson Dunn for his skillful handling of the direct and redirect of Professor Peplau. His performance was a model of precision and highly effective.
Prof. Peplau offered four expert opinions: (1) most individuals who marry gain physical, psychological, and social benefits from being married; (2) the quality and stability of same-sex relationships are similar to those of heterosexual relationships; (3) if permitted to marry, same-sex couples will derive the same benefits from marriage as heterosexual couples; and (4) permitting same-sex couples to marry will not harm the institution of marriage in any way. These opinions disprove the defense’s argument that allowing same-sex couples to marry would fundamentally change and undermine marriage, and support the plaintiffs’ claim that marriage is a basic civil right that same-sex couples need and are entitled to.
During her cross of Prof. Peplau, attorney Nicole Moss tried to elicit an admission from Prof. Peplau that same-sex couples differ from heterosexual couples in some relevant way. Prof. Peplau reiterated that there are no relevant differences. But at Moss’s insistence, she did confirm that a lesbian couple cannot “accidentally” procreate a child through spontaneous generation-one of the few moments today that elicited universal laughter.
Tomorrow we will hear from three experts discussing the impact of marriage discrimination on our community. Again, follow @NCLRights for a blow-by-blow from the court.
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Related:
* Visit the Blend for exclusive legal analysis of Federal Prop 8 trial by NCLR
* Shannon Minter: Perry v. Schwarzenegger Proceedings, Day 1
* Shannon Minter: Perry v. Schwarzenegger Proceedings, Day 2




17 Comments


What astonishes me about the pro H8 people…is that while they are trying to claim that gays and lesbians are not discriminated against today, the most glaring possible example of just that discrimination is staring them in the face. It’s Prop H8 itself.
Do they really not get it or are they just being duplicitous?
Distance – Out of Sight, Out of MindI realize the “reason” for keeping the cameras out was largely about “protecting the H8-ers”, but I also wonder how much of this B.S. was also (silently) about NOT showing us on TV to the American public on any REAL, intimate level.
REAL GAY - not “reality”-gay, Hollywood-gay, or step-and-fetch-it comedy-gay.
America does NOT get a good look at us in pride marches and 3-second news clips; America barely knows us. And this decision to keep cameras out insures that we will remain a stranger to America.
It keeps us at a distance – Out of Sight, Out of Mind.
The other sideI don’t know why I do it, but I flipped over to Protect Marriage’s blog to see what their take on yesterday’s proceedings was. O.M.G.
http://www.protectmarriage.com…
Are they attending the same trial? Or are they setting up their followers to be really, really angry if they lose?
This underscores for me why it’s so important to actually let people see/hear for themselves what’s going on.
This is what grips me:
Having studied classics, I am very familiar with the example of the attempts to reconstruct the Gnostic Christian religions. The problem with doing that was that there were only 1) the barest scaps of original texts and 2) texts from those that were hostile to Gnoxticism…namely the Church Fathers.
That is, until the Nag Hammadi (sp?) papyri were found.
I don’t know much but I do know how to range through historical records. A lot of gay history from even the late 19th century and early 20th century (and even the category “gay” is contested depending on who you talk to) comes from police records and psychatric reports and what not…meaning they come from hostile sources (as I beilieve Chauncey does in his book “Gay New York,” if I remember correctly.
Sometimes, I complain about how often that our community simply reacts but then again…our early history is largely invisible until we become a problem for society (i.e. Oscar Wilde gettin’ uppity with the aristocrats instead of staying in his place and entertaining)
Logical consistency has never been their strong suitYou expect too much of bigots: their hate has no rationale.
THIS is why they were so damned insistant againt camerasThey wanted to be able to lie their asses off about how well they were doing, with no evidence to the contrary.
Agreed. Strongly.
Amazing.At least it proves that the other side is just as capable of lying to themselves as they are of lying about us.
“Gays and lesbians are no longer discriminated against–and therefore it is now OK to discriminate against them” is right up there with:
“I’m quitting my job as governor, but it isn’t really quitting.”
It’s frightening how large the pool of people is getting who deny–or simply ignore–logic, facts and reason, just so they can continue to comfort themselves with their same old lies.
Indeed, they need to be able to lieTo keep the gulible to continue sending in the Dollars. These religious righters don’t care one bit about truth. Just watch if we win how they will claim to be a persecuted bunch, just as they are now.
With the teling of the lies on what is taking place and no way to prove otherwise, they will soak op the cash still. Do you think the minions will read the transcripts? HELL NO.
They are setting themselves upto be victims when they lose this trial, as expected. If they present a picture of victory for their arguments and then have the decision made against them they’ll be able to scream “judicial activism” to their dupes and demand money much more effectively.
Bigotry never fares well in broad daylight which is why they oppose any sort of visual distribution of this trial. Being able to hide as much as they can pays very well so they will fight tooth and nail to stay in the shadows.
LGBTQ scholarshipOn our older history, there are some basic resources in Jonathan Ned Katz (Gay American History, et al), John Boswell, Allan Berube, Randy Shilts, John D’Emilio (Sexual Politics, Sexual Communities), and of course George Chauncey now. And those are the ones that I can think of just off the top of my head.
And, whether you care for their viewpoints or not, you can always look at their bibliographies and see what source material might be worth re-researching. And it might more than police records and psychiatric research.
Oh, I’m familiar with all of thoseand I don’t care for all of their viewpoints, of course…
Still, there’s just not a whole lot there. A big part of it is that we only began to organize as a sort of coherent form of a community in the late 19th century.
I do take the time to look at bibliographies and footnotes (Boswell gives you plenty of those, lol) but it’s still difficult to find the type of…oral history and narratives that you find in black history…I love first hand sources (that was actually my favorite part of reading Chauncey, although I agreed with many of his viewpoints).
I’m really going to appreciate Mr. Minter’s commentary tonightI haven’t been able to keep tabs on tweets or the Courage Campaign liveblog today. And since the USSC is preventing citizens from viewing the civil rights case of the decade, I’ll be extremely grateful for Shannon’s daily review.
Shanon Minter is excellent when it comes to LGBT issues, To bad HRC doesn’t have the caliber of people NCLR has. I don’t know if HRC is saying anything about this. I hope they don’t.
To be fair, HRC isn’t a legal organization like NCLR is.HRC is tweeting trial news throughout the day, but their focus is understandably still on getting a vote on ENDA, etc. Frankly, I’d rather have them continue doing that than try to duplicate the effort of the LGBT legal organizations.
…..well, as their lawyer said, ”This is not ill will nor animosity for gays and lesbians, but special regard for this venerable institution.”
see, institutions are more important than us dirty queers – especially the venerable institutions – can’t have them sullied by what they consider to be a lesser form of life. it isn’t animosity, just like when they say a man shouldn’t marry his horse – they don’t hate the horse.
You make do with the legends you have …There’s bits and pieces, the trouble being, of course, that we didn’t begin developing a coherent identity till 150 years ago, and coherent oppression till the early 20th Century, as Chauncey testified.
Other than that, I suppose we have the poets Whitman and Rimbaud and Cafavy, we have L’Amour Bleu, we have whatever survived the burning of the Marcus Hirschfeld Library, we have Von Gloeden’s photography, et al. Artifacts and pottery shards.