“The signing of this bill marks a watershed moment for human rights in the District of Columbia,” said Rev. Hardies. “No longer will gay and lesbian couples be denied the fundamental right to marriage in our nation’s capital. I and the nearly 200 DC clergy who supported this bill look forward to celebrating the marriages of loving lesbian and gay couples in sanctuaries like this one all over our city. I applaud Mayor Fenty and the DC Council for standing on the side of love and ending discrimination against gay and lesbian Washingtonians.”
– Reverend Robert Hardies, co-chair of DC Clergy United for Marriage Equality, Senior Pastor of All Souls Church, Unitarian in Columbia Heights
Today Mayor Adrian Fenty signed the Religious Freedom and Civil Marriage Equality Amendment Act of 2009, ushering in marriage rights for same-sex couples.* It will be a significant day.
As we celebrate this victory, it is disturbing, hilarious and sad to see the commentary by David Kaufman of Transracial.net over at Huff Post, “Co-Opted: Marriage Equality’s Civil Rights Rip-Off.” It’s yet another attempt to try to further divide the black and LGBT communities with incendiary language directed toward the one group that he accurately describes as invisible — those who are black and gay.
Kaufman, who is black, makes several tired, overheated arguments that unfortunately overshadow extremely valid and genuine concerns about how race is affecting many facets of LGBT equality issues. For those who are black and not heterosexual, it’s common to face negative comments from the religious black community, but in the LGBT community we are often considered suspect members of the “family.” Alternately, we may be seen as:
1) too often focused on social justice issues affecting minorities even though there may be points of intersection;
2) giving blacks in the closet a pass because of the difficulty of coming out;
3) simply tokens of diversity within the visible LGBT movement and not qualifying participants in its overall monochromatic leadership.
But having to take blame for carrying water for elements of the LGBT community perceived as insensitive about race from yet another overwrought black voice is getting stale.
Who’s the Homo-Tom?
It’s pretty difficult to read something like the following and not say “the hell with this fool” but this deserves a response:
Most crucially, this entire sham renders Black LGBTs unnecessarily disheartened, conflicted and increasingly invisible. As for those who are seen, they’re rarely heard unless puppeting the mantras of larger LGBT Inc. like some white-washed army of assimilationist Homo-Toms. Black Gay leaders who merely suggest a more nuanced narrative — one where HIV treatment, social justice and economic equality are as important as marriage rights — are immediately pounced upon by the cyber-Homostocracy and denounced as radicals and racists.

Who, exactly, is Kaufman referring to — Julian Bond, or perhaps Congressman John Lewis — two legends who put their lives on the line for black civil rights and are outspoken advocates for LGBT equality today? That’s balls.
Perhaps he wasn’t shooting that high, since Kaufman wasn’t naming any names in his piece. Maybe Maybe I’ve earned another “endorsement” – my first blue ribbon one from the black side of the fence to join Peter LaBarbera’s, Mike Hein’s and James Hartline’s. After all, there are only so many visible black LGBT activists out there; I’d actually appreciate it if he cited me by name so I can officially add it to my endorsement area of the blog. 
*Barring Congressional interference (it must respond within 30 days whether it will vote on it or let marriage equality in DC remain in place).
More below the fold.With that it mind, it was disconcerting to see additional poorly-thought-out views, particularly reviving the meme that the gay civil rights struggle is co-opting the black civil rights movement and that blacks are seen THE problem standing between LGBTs and equality.
[S]ince the defeat of Proposition 8 last year, the Marriage Equality movement has been in a problematic pas de deux with Black America. On one hand, LGBT Inc. demands the right to appropriate the Civil Rights struggle wherever and whenever possible. Yet at the same time, it constantly blames Black folks for every same-sex marriage set back. From the Black church to Black singers to our Black president, somehow a mere 13.5 percent of the population is responsible for 100 percent of the problems.The math alone should render this philosophy farcical. Yet reinforced by the mainstream LGBT media — and regurgitated by their parasitical blogger proxies — the blame-the-black-guy rhetoric is reaching an increasingly-heated fever-pitch.
Gee, the bloggers are parasites of the LGBT media — is that another “endorsement”? How Kaufman can choose to overlook the fact that Dr. King shaped his movement based on the non-violent teachings of Gandhi is staggering — was that a rip-off? Yes, but so what?
Certainly it’s no poor reflection upon any movement that bases its principles on tried and true activism used by other oppressed groups. That has nothing to do with cultural comparisons, race, or religion. That there are offended members of the black community ignoring the obvious is not a reason to justify the ignorance of appropriating a whole movement and calling it a proprietary entity. That calls for dialogue, not caving in.
One note — I don’t have too many allies on that front, though, other than fellow LGBTs of color who feel the same way, because many non-minority LGBTs who would otherwise be supportive are loathe to say or do anything to counter the claimed “ownership” of “civil rights” or the comparison to the black civil rights movement for fear of being called racist. And they would be in some quarters. So it allows essayists like Kaufman to keep beating this dead horse and getting away with it. It’s time to decloset and confront this, but again, there’s not a lot of political courage out there to do so from my experience.
Anyway, Kaufman contributes to another myth — that it’s 24/7 marriage priority for our movement, as if that’s the only issue we find commonality with (pointing specifically to Loving v. Virginia) regarding the black civil rights movement:
[T]hose were my parents back in hippie-dippie San Francisco. And while I am clearly pleased they were allowed their union, mixed-race coupledom was a benefit of the Civil Rights movement — not its goal (See: voter rights, an end to lynching, desegregation, economic empowerment, etc). Stating otherwise not only reflects a fundamental confusion about Civil Rights successes — but disses the very people who made them happen.Particularly African-Americans.
No it doesn’t. Has Kaufman forgotten the existence of Bayard Rustin, who made the March on Washington happen? Again black and gay – and yet Kaufman renders him invisible, something he charges others with. Perhaps the words of Rustin may stimulate a more positive viewpoint by Kaufman.
“Indeed, if you want to know whether today people believe in democracy, if you want to know whether they are true democrats, if you want to know whether they are human rights activists, the question to ask is, ‘What about gay people?’ Because that is now the litmus paper by which this democracy is to be judged.”
”There are four burdens, which gays, along with every other despised group, whether it is blacks following slavery and reconstruction, or Jews fearful of Germany, must address.
The first is to recognize that one must overcome fear. The second is overcoming self-hate. The third is overcoming self-denial.
The fourth burden is more political. It is to recognize that the job of the gay community is not to deal with extremist who would castrate us or put us on an island and drop an H-bomb on us.
The fact of the matter is that there is a small percentage of people in America who understand the true nature of the homosexual community. There is another small percentage who will never understand us. Our job is not to get those people who dislike us to love us. Nor was our aim in the civil rights movement to get prejudiced white people to love us. Our aim was to try to create the kind of America, legislatively, morally, and psychologically, such that even though some whites continued to hate us, they could not openly manifest that hate. That’s our job today: to control the extent to which people can publicly manifest antigay sentiment.”
You see, the whole “Prop 8 passed because of blacks” fable was blown away many months ago, but to be honest, there are still gay people out there with racial biases and hold that inaccuracy close to heart. I really do understand where Kaufman is coming from, but he’s missing a crucial, factual detail. The commonality in the discussions about homophobia (in the black community and generally) is that the most relevant factors in these anti-gay votes are whether someone is a frequent church-goer and what their level of education is, not race. If there are more church-going blacks in a given population, it stands to reason that many, but not all would not support marriage equality. But that’s not a reason to assume all are, or for feeling that religion must be a third rail topic. LGBTs do need to respect and address religion, not sweep under the rug as irrelevant to the discussion.
The tragedy of Kaufman’s essay is that there are essential, difficult truths hidden behind anger and mischanneled resentment like this:
The endless defeats plaguing the Marriage Equality movement should serve as a wake-up call to its impotent leadership and encourage a period of post-mortem introspection. Moreover, it confirms the ineffectiveness and disingenuousness of their divide-and-conquer tactics.
I agree — it’s time for a wake up call for the LGBT movement in terms of ballot initiatives and defeats. We do need the reality check that winning in this (unconstitutional) manner is going to happen in very few states, ignoring gains that could be made at the state and federal level to help LGBTs in more places faster. But the assumption that the defeats are due to divide-and-conquer tactics is ludicrous. What is true is that mistakes were made in the LGBT community’s own assumptions about race and outreach to communities of color and getting out that vote. Bypassing entire communities because one is afraid to confront hostility and defensiveness at one front door, does NOT mean you will not find support at the next house.
For those of us used to confronting hostility and bias because of our race in the dominant culture (voting while black, hailing a cab while black, shopping and driving while black), this is par for the course. And not because our skin is necessarily thicker — see how the studies on the effects of racism on blood pressure/stress in blacks bear out the impact it can have on us. Those whites concerned about exposing one’s self temporarily to that particular kind of racial stress for the greater good of equality should see this as a self-teachable moment that expands your world view about where we really stand in terms of gay and minority tensions, rather than making assumptions. But David Kaufman, like most of us, assumes way too much without acknowledging all of the picture. That’s something we can be proactive about addressing, rather than unproductively ranting about. After all…
Felix Unger: [to woman on witness stand] Ah… you assumed. My dear, you should never assume. You see, when you assume
[writes the word "assume" on a blackboard]
Felix Unger: , you make an ass… out of you… and me.
– Felix in the episode “My Strife in Court” (66)




“Indeed, if you want to know whether today people believe in democracy, if you want to know whether they are true democrats, if you want to know whether they are human rights activists, the question to ask is, ‘What about gay people?’ Because that is now the litmus paper by which this democracy is to be judged.”
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Nothing bothers me more than…the outright surrender of those who want to retrench and say “oh no, we keep losing marriage equality, focus on something else”.
To accomplish this change of pace (and to get the most monetary benefit), they attack those who focus on the issues of marriage equality, HIV/AIDS treatment (“malaria kills more people!!”) and racial disparities within the LGBT community. It’s hoped, then, that the teeming masses would then say “oh, well, I guess this guy is right– let’s hurl money at him”. They call those folks assimilationists, traitors, racists and basically imply they’re less-than because they, like the vast majority of people, have one issue that speaks the most to them.
So the opportunists come in and start to change the message. They say “we can’t fight these referenda battles”(even though we don’t start them), “GENDA can wait”, “marriage equality is selfish”, “gay people only care about marriage and themselves, don’t be one of them!”
Isn’t this message control the sort of thing that turned Joe Solmonese into an ass-kissing money sponge that has a penchant for throwing the Trans community under the bus and basically demanding a monetary tribute for any bi or lesbian woman hoping to advance within the power structure? Except, you know, he’s the top earner when it comes to marriage equality advocacy?
… yeah, it makes me furious.I can’t even type straight when discussing this sorta thing, this “et tu, brute?” BS backstabbing, these Judases.
So yeah, [sic] throughout. But I hope my point came across.
Preach, Pam… and hook him up with Jeff JohnsonTuesday morning on a drive from DC to the uncomfortably white pandhandle of West Virginia, I almost went off the road while listening to The Tom Joyner Morning Show, thanks to Jeff Johnson’s commentary on the Houston mayoral race. Jeff spoke eloquently of need for Black America, particularly the Black church, to rise above homophobia and to embrace LGBT Blacks and fellow Americans as equal partners in the struggles against legal and economic disparities. As a Black heterosexual male, he made the case more forcefully than I have heard it delivered by an LGBT person of any ethnicity.
The Huffington PostThere’s nothing so stupid and inane that they wouldn’t publish it. See all the anti-vax and esotheric woo or the Kindle as Hitler’s device.
And among the comments I think they only filter out reasonable ones as all the nonsensical and hateful stuff is going through (more clicks, more money).
Couldn’t you post a link to this article as response there, Pam?
Who says the black community doen’t have house fagsand enablers.
Truth is I agree with Kaufman on some points (David Mixner’s race-baiting prior to the Maine vote for example) but I suppose his Jewish self doesn’t mind that his black self “appropriated” (rightly, in my opinion) terminology from his Jewish heritage…or something like that.
Can anything be written in the current political enviroment without giving license to the black homophobes? Why is it the assumption that there has to be a one way street as far as getting along…and both the black and the gay communities do it, quite frankly…
and thank you for this Pam
There are elements of both racism and fear on the part of LGBT campaigns in this regard. The fact that there hasn’t even been a discussion or an analysis of why the black political class have the on the record votes that they do (in spite of the hostility that some in their communities have to gay marriage and other gay civil rights)has been instructive in that regard.
Let me mull on this a bit more (as the black homophobe hordes have now come out buzzing of the huff post threads.)
who is Jeff Johnson?I’d like to see a transcript of that or hear more about his take on the Black vs Lesbian dynamics in the Houston Maypral Race…
I have an account thereSo I will get it over there when I have time.
Thank you, PamYou nailed it. PLEASE, PLEASE post a response at the HuffPo. It physically pains me to see this guy’s ignorance seemingly speaking for the rest of us who are gay and POC.
Who is he calling “assimilationist”…Speak on him Ricky:
Nuff Said!
just posted it thereqit’s in the queue, so I don’t know when it will go live.
I’m white and gay, so I understand there’s a level of privilege that I possess through no fault of my own (although I’d argue that those of us on the more nelly side aren’t exactly living the live of Riley, but I REALLY don’t want to participate in the Oppression Olympics), I understand that there are those in the gay community that are racist, because a lot of PEOPLE I understand that I’ve been guilty of being inadvertently racist at times. I understand that that the civil rights struggle of African-Americans is NOT the same as the civil rights struggle for gay marriage, or gay people in general.
What I don’t understand is what I’m supposed to anymore. Seriously. I genuinely want to be on the right side of things. I’m tired of feeling like the only course is to continually self-flagellate, continually apologize for the racism in the gay community, which is simply just a microcosm of racism in this country. Well, not simply, but you get my drift.
It reminds me of the cries after Prop 8 about reaching out and how no one is reaching out to this group or that group, and I feel I just have to state that no one has reached out to me. Any canvassing or activism I did was of my own volition. Any groups I’ve joined were my choice. And as I’ve said before when discussing similar topics, it’s not exactly like chubbyish, average looking gay men like me are exactly greeted with fanfare in the so-called gay “community” either. But I say that with caution, as I’m not trying to make my experience any more or less valid than anyone else’s, including the David Kaufman’s of the world.
And as a white man, I get nervous when I dip my toe into these conversations, because the last thing I want to do is make it seem like I’m dismissing the experience of others, or claiming my oppression is worse than anyone else’s. It’s just when I’m confronted with the same old meme about how racist the (white) gay community is, I just don’t know what I’m supposed to do anymore. I really and truly don’t.
a white gay = racist black = homophobethat’s the meme that’s out there…
and black gay people…well, according to the churchified and nationalists of the black community, they just don’t exist…or they’re Uncle Toms…or whatever…and to the white gay community…all the black gay people (or at least the men) are on the DL.
Both communities toss some tall-as ignorant shit out there.
I am so sick and tired of both communities that play this game.
one gripe I have against Kaufmanhe tried to pass himself off to me as simply being Jewish…
http://www.davidmixner.com/200…
Again, then what’s to be done?I have a hunch I’m not the only white gay who knows there are non DL black gays.
Of course you aren’t the only white gay who knows thathere’s a rule of mine that I follow imperfectly (but more often than not)…
1) If a black person who’s a homophobe brings up religion, then throw religion back at them.
If a black person who’s a homophobe does bring up race, then throw race back at them.
Because all to often I see comments like this.
Catholics, Mormons, evangelicals, and African Americans are opposed to gay ________.
So very often I see statements like this. Black people don’t have a religion gene nor are Catholic, Mormons, and evangelicals racial groups. A black person, of course, doen’t have to throw race out there because 99 times out of 100, that is evident in what is seen.
And more often than not, the racial component is what many white gays (consciously or unconsciously) react to when it wasn’t brought up in the first place.
2) Do put more black gay people out there. Sure we’re gonna get called Uncle Toms and assimilationists and what not…we’re used to it. But I’ll bet you that Miss Bishop Jackson wouldn’t get away with 75% of the bombast that he throws out there if I’m looking at his face and debating him.
3) White gays Study all civil rights movements as opposed to throwing out cute quotes of the King’s here and there. I do agree with Kaufman to the extent that someone like Andrew Sullivan should not be making any comments along the lines of the black/gay debate given his own deep-seated racism (having said that, I like and agree with some of what he says generally, I don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater in Sullivan’s case but I’m not going to shy away from his racist tendencies either).
Thank youI appreciate your thoughts and suggestions and it helps me to figure out what I can do it. Sincerely, many thanks.
For what it’s worth, I would love to see you debate Miss Jackson.
Does he define LGBT Inc?Because we really can;t have a conversation unless some of the basic terms used are defined. Unless more carefully defined, I see terms like “LGBT Inc” and “Black America” as so broad as to be meaningless.
Please“cyber-Homostocracy” definitely word of the day material. I don’t understand why a group of people with the same political goal can’t get along. What with all the class/race warfare lately?
he started out as “Cousin Jeff” on BET programming I think he does stuff for CNN too.
What about the “Christo-toms”?Kevinchi, I agree with this “meme” as well. I was told by Black Christian girls with chemically-straight relaxed Hair, that my natural-haired Black Lesbian self is a sell out to the black race. Oh, and that homosexuality is a “European thing” that would poison black folks. Goodness, it took a lot of meditation and a little Xanax to just simply look back and laugh at that moment.
Anyway, I wonder if Kaufman ever looked at Black Christian Pastors who are so homophobic that they are willing to be tools of racist right-wing White Christians? I mean wasn’t it so-called Rev. Gregory Daniels that said “If the KKK was against Gay Marriage, He’ll ride with them”…that’s not only uncle tom foolery that is truly betraying the black community.
What about so called Bishop Harry Jackson who is all about advocating for the justice of black folks, turns around and affiliates himself with conservative white Christians with racist tendencies? He was even concerned about the somewhat racist rhetoric of his new conservative white christian friends. He even stated that he can’t win against same-sex marriage if “his own black brothers see me as a traitor”…too late!
I think the problem here is the historic role of European Christian colonialism that you mentioned in his link. European Christian colonialism has damaged the minds of black folks and Uganda is a huge example of that. The Bible was used as a slave manual against blacks and now its used against Gays of every skin color. This is too much hypocrisy for me.
Kaufman is doing no service to Black LGBTs and in fact encouraging some to be in the closet or not get involved in gay rights, because they’ll be labeled as a “Homo-tom”. He’s hitting the wrong target, he needs to focus on those Black Christian traitors that are crushing the souls of their own black folks that happen to be queer.
“Kikes, fags, and niggers”The whining and rallying cries of the white supremacists…
I wonder what Kaufman would say to those black pastors that happen to be anti-Semitic and spew it from the pulpit as well… (which again, is aping the theology of white supremacist)?
PAM SPAULDING: So Happy My Story Got You Thinkinghttp://www.transracial.net/200…
Here’s to fighting all the good fights!
Waitaminute, motherfu*kerI said this, not Pam
And since you want to claim your black heritage (for the time being, anyway) what say you about this bit of coonery from Ken Hutcherson?:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f…
This whole thing is just disgusting…But the worst thing about it is that he seems to, at times, presuppose that one must choose between being black and being GLBT. As if the two are somehow conflicting.
It does provide a helpful commentary, in one way, however. As much as we may want to deny it, the black vote is a huge problem for marriage equality. We’re dealing with relatively thin margins of victory/loss overall, and African Americans ARE voting disproportionately against gay marriage. What this disgusting, ignorant, hateful and generally vile man is highlighting is how NOT to go about it: Assigning blame.
If we want to win, we have to go about it through outreach, not blame.
I agree. Thank god the women suffragetteshad more balls (metaphorically, at least). It took 100 years to win that battle. Can you imagine us in a world where women still couldn’t vote? I’m sure we’d have nuked ourselves out of existence by now.
They really get my goat too.
Please consider posting at Kos if you are so inclined. Let me know when you do. (or Terry).
I’m referring to this commenton an old diary.
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/…
But I wonder if Mr. Kaufman is offended byt the use of the term “Final Solution”
I agree but…I can’t afford to let those in the black pastor mafia off of the hook. After all, I am far more affected by the homophobic ignorance from the black pastor mafia than any white gay…
thanks for this Pam.much appreciated. This tired old drama being revisited at HuffPost is really stale. Haven’t folks there got better things to churn out?
Thanks PamI had to laugh because the Gandhi argument I made on Kaufman’s column, which of course he wouldn’t publish.
He does a f*ckin flamethrowing column then censors any responses he doesn’t like.
cluck,cluck,cluck
@KaufmanCowardly F*CK, notice Pam allows you to have YOUR say on her site, that’s a confident take NO SHIT Black lesbian, you aren’t fit to be mentioned in the same breath.
You censored all my posts on HuffPo as BoyInBOYCOTT
GREATI was hoping you’d post your response on HuffPo too
hufpo
Don’t get so hot under the collar. Hufpo bloggers do not have say on which comments get posted.
Painting all White LGBTs with one comment of David Mixner’sWould be like Jews painting every Black as anti semetic for Hymie Town comment, or Every White Queer using Buju Bantam lyrics, or Chris Rock doing faggot jokes as their spokesman. I’m certain with little effort I could also find rampant sexist remarks and Hip Hop lyrics labeling ALL women HO’S
Civil RightsBecause, of course, civil rights ONLY applies to black people… not to anyone whose rights as citizens are being denied. Gods, I hate when people say stupid sh*t like that.
see, you done made Kev pull out the claws! Seriously, I don’t think I have the energy to mix it up on Huffington Post, as I rarely check that site and Kevin and Pam have made it sound like a less than welcoming place.
I may submit an article to the local black newspaper addressing this issue, though.
I’ve seen columnists on HuffPo who approve their comments
crawl back under your bridge……buttercup
Kaufman’s WHINE“Don’t battle me Spaulding – it’s loose-loose for us all!”
http://www.transracial.net/200…
He underestimates you Pam….there’s just ONE LOSER, and he’s been S-P-A-N-K-E-D…(and not in that fun way.)
posted at KosWe’ll see how it’s received…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…
more pithy comments by Kaufman“What I am sure about is that Spaulding has got herself a case of the self-doubts coupled with a bout of the self-importance.
Need proof? How about her clear certainty that it’s folks-like her that I accuse of being “homo-Toms”.
Uhm, Pam – projecting much?
Yes, I would place you and your site on the “parasitical blogger proxy” shelf.”
http://www.transracial.net/200…
Blogstremist….let it RIP
Oh GURL….every time you open your mouth spangles drop out….and on FOX, aren’t you PROUD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
my little david…..IMAGE http://s810.photobucket.com/al…
I must be confusedI read the Kaufman article.
He thinks gays are focused too closely on on marriage and not the broad struggle for LGBT equality. This is evidenced by:
I think Kaufman misses the mark – the marriage issues themselves are roughly analogous. But I agree, neither one is the only issue in the struggle.
The folks I know, including myself, who are advocates for marriage, are also advocating for the broader issues as well. The mainstream media often focuses on marriage and makes it seem as if it’s the main event – but marriage is only one aspect of the broader LGBT civil rights struggle.
And I am sorry, but the African American Civil Rights Movement doesn’t have exclusive rights to the term “civil rights.” My rights as a sicilian-american lesbian trans woman are just as much civil rights as Mr. Kaufmann’s – and I am working for marriage equality as an ally since I have a legal made-in-New-York lesbian marriage on the account of my minor technicality (what Trudy calls my very small minor rechnicality).
That doesn’t mean I don’t focus on trans issues – they’re my main focus. And it doesn’t mean I don’t focus on broader LGBT issues. And for that matter, it doesn’t mean I don;t focus on other, broader, civil rights and civil liberties issues. And I put my energy into all these things – I am state director of a New York trans rights organization, and am litigating over birth certificates (that one’s personal as well as professional)chair of my local civil liberties union chapter (litigating a freedom of information law case in connection with a 1952 labor leader’s murder in Yonkers), work as a marriage ambassador, and it goes on.
I am not alone – those I know who are active, are active on more than one issue. I wish I had more time to devote to fixing the foreclosure mess, straightening out immigration and medical care issues, and ending wars. But you;d have to elect me President and give me 70,000 like-minded plum job workers with the same vision to try to move the world.
But being a mostly third class citizen (even being married brings new issues every day as people try to wrap their minds around how I can be legally female for some issues and legally male for others. I have to live with the indefinite status all the time, the rest of society needs to get iused to it, too. But being up front as “different” in a world that expects “same” leads to a lot of agony.
Someone has to break the trail. There are places where the trail has been made easy, and others where I have to use what time and talent I have, and still others where others are hacking away.
I don’t see how the Kaufman article is quite as bad as it’s being taken. I resent the fact that I’m often made invisible, too – for different reasons and in different contexts.
Ah, but it comes down to:
Pardonnez moi, but I didn’t know there was any such struggle – in fact, the African-American Civil Rights Movement, the Abolitionist Movement, the Women’s Movement, and other struggles all have a place in our pantheon of those who struggled before us. There have been struggles for religious freedom and freedom from other oppression throughout history – and there have been heroes, examples, and inspirations from all over.
Take one example – somewhere on my blog, I posted a paraphrase of the famous On the Occasion of the Fourth of July speech given by Frederick Douglass, adapted to convey a trans message. Yes I co-opted that speech – but in admiration for its author, and not as a ripoff.
In the struggle for GENDA, I am most inspired by Elizabeth Cady Stanton, who labored for years in New York for the Married Women’s property Acts – 12 years for each one! Am I ripping off the Women’s Movement? No – she and her cause are inspiration for me and mine – and I know that others have trod similar ground before me – and thus I am not alone, and the trans movement, the marriage movement and the broader LGBT civil rights movement are not alone.
Don;t be too sure about thatSome of the closet queens in the Vatican mafia might be even more effective – and they poured hundreds of thousands into California and Maine, and invited the LDS folks into the financial support scheme.
CHECK OUT the 5:07 part of the video when an old trollish FOX announcer asks David about CRUISINGI fell out LAUGHING MY QUEER ASS OFF!
got CAMP?
Note he never answered…who the Homo-Toms are, unless they are just in his imagination. I’m still waiting. Kaufman certainly had someone in mind; what’s so difficult about naming names so they can respond?
FAIL.
posted to HuffpostMaybe Mr. Kaufman believes LGBT African Americans want to pay for the more than 1138 federal and state marriage rights enjoyed by heterosexuals but do not want the benefits of those rights.
Maybe he thinks LGBT African Americans do not care if their partner from another country cannot remain in the United States since they cannot marry. Maybe he thinks all LGBT African Americans don’t care that they cannot make medical decisions for their spouse. Maybe he thinks they’e all okay that they have no right to adopt their partner’s biological child. Maybe he even thinks that all LGBT African American do not care that they cannot have Social Security benefits or inheritcane rights.
Maybe he thinks that the only crimes against humanity during the holocaust was when Europeans murdered Jews, but when they murdered gays and lesbians that was not an equal crime.
Maybe he thinks bigotry is about targets not bigots. Maybe he thinks there’s a difference between bronze age bible thumpers rationalizing bigotry based on skin color then when they use it to rationalize bigotry based on sexuality. There’s no difference, because the either way they bible is used to rationalize a delusion about god-given superiority, which exists only in the mind of the supremacist, racially or heterosexually.
Maybe he doesn’ understand marriage rights are about equal human rights, and must be unconditional, never based on acceptance, approval, agreement, understanding, tolerance or respect of homo-obsessed heterosupremacist tyrannical theocRATS.
“My little david” likes to trash other queer Bloggershere he goes after Joe Jarvis at Joe My God
“The whole SF Pride mag seems to be the handiwork of some dude called Joe Jervis – who has THIS blog and fancies himself a voice for the progressive homo-sphere.
Homo, fersure. Progress – not so much!
With so much of the current GLBT political creeping oh-so close to race-baiting – we hope Jervis’ pride publication is not a portent of things to come!”
http://www.transracial.net/200…
The HuffPo article he trashes Andrew Sullivan and David Mixner.
oy, PeteySaw that clip. I think I understand the entire essay now…
oops mis spelled Jervis
His entire website has the depth of a Madonna fan club
David Kaufman = when Ken Mehlman sat on Condi’s turkey baster
kev, shread, slash…..rinse …..repeat
some good comments at daily Kos 28 so farmost are complimentary to Pam
one described Kaufman’s HuffPo piece as a mine field he expects readers to wander thru before he makes some valid criticisms, and another described his response at transracial as a PERSONAL attack.
Commie-Jew-N*gger-Faggot…..was what the klan spewed as ONE word
it’s not a Mexican Cruise…but it does have entertainment moments
pandagon.net has story too http://pandagon.net/index.php/…
links to gay americablog and pubsub, http://www.pubsub.com/Chester-…
On Joe’s commentHe’s worked for Fox. He cannot get it right as he’s trained to shill (as evidenced in the his video on YouTube you posted) and smear.
There Are No Gold Medals in the Oppression Olympics.Another rebutal of Kaufman’s HuffPo column
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/b…
“As Adam Serwer has argued, the black community is no monolith when it comes to marriage rights, and not everyone in the gay community in blaming African Americans for Prop. 8.
But most problematically, Kaufman engages in the same “Olympics of oppression” that he claims to repudiate:
I was immediately struck by the chutzpah of Sullivan’s statement — both because of its erroneousness and because he had the audacity to make it. Like many before him, I’m certain Sullivan never considered that despite my Jew-boy sounding name and Valley-Boy sounding accent, my Black father attended a segregated high school while his sister was hosed down by haters when she dared enter a mixed-race college.
Ultimately, this rhetoric is silly and — as Kaufman himself notes — unproductive. Collaborative conversations aren’t prefaced with a laundry list of discrimination you’ve faced. We’ve all got the cred; let’s argue on the merits.”
–Gabriel Arana
Posted by Alexandra Gutierrez on December
Yes there is that butthe black community is my community as well. I am far more affected by that then, say, David Mixner or Andrew Sullivan.
You get tin ears from me…as far as the Oppression Olympics are concerned.
Lil Davey doesn’t like opposition, it seemsI posted a response to his commentary with the claws somewwhat retracted (even stated that I agreed with him in some respects) and he deleted it.
Point taken and understood.Which is why, even though I am now U/U ten years after the RCC threw me out, I am more annoyed by Joe Ratzinger and his crew than perhaps I should be.
eh, not necessarilyI mean you’re right, the Vatican mafia has the power in terms of affecting law and public opinion for many many more people (and tons of money), I don’t wish to minimize that.
My only point is that in the wider society, the black pastor mafia power is mostly illusory at best and (more than likely) propped up by white religious bigots as well. But that does have enormous power within the black community, especially as black churches also double up as political organizations.
But your point is well taken and importantThanks for understanding my POV re the RCC, and its misuse of its enormous wealth.
I will pick on the word “illusory” – I think that “illusory” overly diminishes the actual impact – the impactof the black pastor mafia on the black community does indirectly affect the wider society, even if it does not accomplish the impact on those outside their congregations directly from the pulpit.
Agent Provacateur!Is Fox News pushing Kaufman as an agent provacateur out to hurt lgbt liberation by blowing up the black/gay issue?
I read a piece on the Huffington Post where Kaufman made nasty, personal attacks on David Mixner for invoking apartheid in his activism. Interestingly…he stripped out of that huffpo piece a section from his original blog posting arguing that it would be just as wrong for palestinians to invoke apartheid in their struggle…
I definitely feel for you there.What I’m saying is that I believe that outreach into black churches is a better way of winning the fight for hearts and minds than assigning blame. Like all battles for civil rights, history will assign that blame for us.
And the pastors most definitely ARE a big part of the problem here. It seems that black civil rights and other community leaders for the most part see gay marriage as a civil rights battle they’re ready and eager to help take up. The pastors have more influence, sadly. But when you look at DC, for instance, you see that churches can be won over to support GLBT rights and can be very helpful when they are.
What this very vile man is doing is trying to make GLBT issues about privileged white gay men vs disproportionately under-educated and frustrated working class black churchgoers. It’s a hateful illusion that we cannot afford to help his type by buying into.
as a JewI would like to protest your black self’s use of any and all Biblical references when you speak of the past and present horrific treatment of Africans, enslaved Africans in the colonies – later states – and their descendants, freed but segregated African-Americans, and currently disfranchised African-Americans. Also, please stop calling Canada “the Promised Land” within the discourse of slavery and forget about using “Moses” for Harriet Tubman. It offends me as my ancestors suffered much more, when they were slaves in Egypt, since we can all see the Pyramids are still standing.
Why doesn’t the black community instead rely on its own stories and narrative and not steal the Jewish ones? Come on, there have been and are so many wonderful black writers and poets. Surely, the black community can leave Moses, the Sea of Reeds and the Promised Land alone. I mean, seriously, Bible wasn’t even first published in English or any of the African languages. It first appeared in Hebrew.
Now that I’m done with the Oppression Olympics, and I hope I made it ridiculous enough that everybody understands that this was not meant to be a serious comparison but a sarcastic way to point out to Mr. Kaufman the irony of his own words.
Mr. Kaufman, when I call the struggle for equal rights by the LGBT community the continuation of the Civil Rights struggle, it is to point out that the basic human and civil rights are denied us. It is not to say that African-Americans have reached full equality and it’s time that everybody looks at me, or that my ancestors were enslaved and treated unspeakably in so many other ways over the centuries. That is not what I am saying. We recognize we are not black and don’t have the same history of discrimination that people of color have.
Sure, from time to time, there are people, who focus on race, and sometimes those people happen to belong to the LGBT community. But what is necessary is a better education for them of why they are wrong in your opinion. What is unnecessary and even counterproductive (in case, nothing else matters to you) is your (as in your personal) wholesale dismissal and unwarranted deprecation of us.
if the shoe fits…I am not black, though many other LGBT people are. But anyway, I can only talk for my self.
LGBT community fully understands and does not back away – as you say – from our struggle to not be verbally abused, violently attacked, or killed in most places in the US. We still fight against others discriminating us in housing, accommodations, and work, even if that is not what the community-wide attention is focused on right now. We are fighting for others to fully accept who we are and to counteract their fear of us.
The problem is – this doesn’t happen in a day.
Do you think any one of us has illusions that the day after same-sex marriage will become available there won’t be a single hate crime? I have serious doubts that everyone will shed their prejudice.
The reason that marriage right now is such a center-spot issue is because such important rights, tangible rights, depend on that designation. Surely, you know – since you seem to read Pam – that Pam is in a relationship. In fact, she’s married. It is the fact that she is now responsible for her loved one as well as herself that Pam is invested in the issue. As am I. Once again, haters won’t stop hating us tomorrow with a flick of a magic wand, but right now I’d like to be able to have my tangible rights be equal. I’ll have to leave my intangible rights for later.
My personal view is also that we are invisible precisely because we are denied our tangible and intangible rights as couples. (And we are denied rights as couples because we are invisible.) If I am walking on the street alone, I am the gray, average, and, presumably, heterosexual. My professors, who have known me personally, assumed that. My cousins were quite surprised when I came out to them. Mind you, I am not some “straight-acting” poster boy of heteronormativity. But being a bookish “good Jewish boy” in glasses, that’s what I inevitably pass for. Unless I actually tell someone I am gay or that I have a partner of almost 6 years, most people won’t know.
However, if they see us together, talking, laughing, maybe they’ll realize that we are not all that bad and are quite human. Maybe if they see us walking out of city hall, or our nearby synagogue (which is right across Obama’s house), they’ll change their minds about us. Maybe, just maybe, it will allow and encourage them to speak up against the prejudice that exists. Maybe if the children read “Heather Has Two Mommies” or “And Tango Makes Three”, or they see us walking and holding hands, that will teach them that there’s nothing wrong with the gay people, and they won’t call someone else in the kindergarten or school “a fag”. And maybe that will decrease the homophobia all around, so that a blogger won’t create words like “cyber-Homostocracy”.