Update 6: Official responses below the fold.
Update 5: A slow roll call vote HAPPENING NOW.
Update 4: The vote is expected as soon as Senator Duane finishes his closing remarks. @prideagenda says of the debaters: By our count we have 18 “yes” and 1 “no” so far. #ilovenyequality
Update 3: Important email from Speaker Quinn
Dear New Yorker,This is it. The Marriage Equality Act is being debated on the floor of the New York State Senate today. (You can watch it live at http://www.nysenate.gov/blogs/…
We’ve been waiting for this day for a long time, and it’s my hope that a majority of our senators in Albany will make the right decision and cast their votes for marriage equality.
Right now, I’m in Albany after having met with senators on both sides of the fence – and I can report that our leaders in the Senate are working very hard to get the votes. Governor David Paterson, Senator Tom Duane, Assemblymember Danny O’Donnell and every one of our allies in Albany deserve our appreciation for getting us this far.
We need to keep pushing, though. Please call or write your state senator now and urge them to vote for this bill. You can find contact info. for your state senator at http://www.nysenate.gov/senators.
It’s my hope that marriage equality will soon be looked back upon as a great accomplishment that all New Yorkers achieved together.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Christine C. Quinn
Speaker
New York City Council
UPDATE 2: View live coverage of Senate floor debate here, now.
UPDATE: The marriage equality bill has just been passed out of the Senate Rules Committee. The Senate announces its intention to vote on the marriage bill TODAY. View live coverage of Senate floor here, and here is the NY Senate Twitter feed.
The New York Assembly already passed the marriage equality bill back in May. But as Emeyle Waldherr mentioned earlier today, when one chamber votes on and passes a bill during the “extraordinary session”, the other must also vote on and pass it during the same session before it can go the the governor for signing. Well, the Assembly has left the Senate with no excuses. Empire State Pride Agenda just emailed this (emphasis mine):
Assembly Vote on Marriage Signals Continued MomentumJust a few moments ago, the New York State Assembly passed marriage equality legislation for the second time this year in a bipartisan vote of 86 to 51. By taking a vote in what is called an “extraordinary session,” the Assembly has removed any obstacle to the bill being sent to the Governor for his signature if the Senate votes on the bill when it reconvenes tomorrow to conduct business.
The Pride Agenda gives special thanks to the New York State Assembly, under the leadership of Speaker Sheldon Silver, that has now voted and passed the marriage equality bill three times. Our thanks also to the legislation’s prime sponsor Assemblymember Danny O’Donnell for leading the successful effort again on the floor.
It is anticipated that forces opposing marriage equality may be coming to Albany tomorrow to put pressure on the State Senate to take no action on the bill. We continue to expect the Senate to give this issue the respectful debate and vote it deserves.
Here’s an interesting tidbit on potential strategy at play
This week could be a good time for lawmakers on the fence to limit exposure back home: A vote in December, six months after the regular session ended and at the same time a major fiscal crisis is addressed, is preferable to voting on the bill as the only agenda item later in the month or in 2010, an election year.
One would hope that today’s nearly-unanimous vote for marriage equality by the Washington, D.C. Council would provide some useful momentum/cover for NY senators, seeing as how the DC Council had the integrity and spine to pass human rights legislation right there in the heart of the beast.
Related:
* New York legislature slated to vote on marriage this week…or laterEmpire State Pride Agenda
Pride Agenda Executive Director Reacts to Today’s Vote on Marriage Equality in the New York State SenateMoments ago, the Pride Agenda released the following statement from Executive Director Alan Van Capelle:
“While we are disappointed by today’s vote, we are pleased that the issue of marriage equality at last was debated in the New York State Senate. We had long called for a public debate on this matter so we could determine who was truly on our side.
It is a step forward for our democratic process in New York that a debate and vote have now occurred. Now we know where we stand, and where we need to concentrate our efforts in the future.
We are incredibly thankful to those who have stood with us and will continue to stand with us as our community presses forward to win marriage equality. In this regard:
We thank Governor Paterson for his unstinting support;
We thank each of the Senators who pushed for a vote and stood with us when it was time to be counted;
We also thank the members of the New York State Assembly-led by Speaker Sheldon Silver and Assemblymember Daniel O’Donnell-who have three times now voted for marriage equality by increasingly bipartisan majorities; and
We thank our many allies in the labor, faith and the business communities for their support and willingness to speak out.
To the tens of thousands of LGBT New Yorkers who have worked hard for equality, and to those who may for the very first time have become politically involved due to this fight, our message is as follows:
Our fight continues. Marriage equality is coming to New York. Time clearly is on our side and you can be sure that we will never stop working until we win.
To those Senators who do not yet see our families as deserving the same protections as other families in New York, our message is simple:
We are more committed than ever to this fight. We will redouble our efforts in your district to ensure that our voice is heard. We know our cause is just. We know that a growing majority of New Yorkers believes in the same values of fairness and equality that we do. If you cannot support us, we will find candidates for public office who do, and we will work through the democratic system to affect needed change.”
Log Cabin Republicans of NY
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 2, 2009Contact: Gregory T. Angelo
Chairman & Press Representative
Log Cabin Republicans of New York
(917) 664-2642
angelo@newyork.logcabin.orgLOG CABIN REPUBLICANS OF NEW YORK
STATEMENT ON MARRIAGE EQUALITY VOTE
ALBANY, NEW YORK-In response to today’s marriage equality vote in the New York State Legislature, Log Cabin Republicans Legislative Advisor Jeff Cook made the following statement:
“Today we share in the frustration and disappointment that the Senate did not pass the marriage equality bill. We are deeply saddened that the Democratic Conference failed to secure the votes they promised, undermining the possibility of a credible bipartisan vote of conscience on the merits of marriage equality. Winning marriage equality in New York requires the Democrats to keep their promises, and Log Cabin will continue to work to ensure that Republicans vote their conscience when that finally happens.”
Christine Quinn:
Statement by Speaker Christine C. QuinnRe: Senate Vote on Same-Sex Marriage
“Today the New York State Senate rejected an opportunity to declare that all citizens in New York are equal. The depth of sadness that I and many New Yorkers feel today is difficult to express. This is a loss for every family in New York. This is a loss for every Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender New Yorker.
“I want to thank Senator Tom Duane, Senator Sampson and the rest of the Senate leadership for bringing this issue to a vote on the Senate floor. I applaud them for their dogged leadership on this issue.
“I also applaud every Senator who voted in favor of this civil rights bill. Each of them stood up today and declared that all people should be equal and nobody should be treated differently. I thank all the Senators who spoke so movingly on the Senate floor. I want to deeply thank the advocates who have worked so long and so hard on this issue.
“Today is not, however, by any means, the end of the fight for same-sex marriage in New York State. We will continue to work and fight for equal rights, and if anything our efforts will only be made all the stronger by today’s vote.
“My partner and I will are not able to legally marry in New York State. My same-sex neighbors and constituents are not able to legally marry in New York State. But we will continue to work, to fight and to educate. We will continue to support those amazing advocates who spend every day fighting for LGBT New Yorkers equal rights. We will not accept defeat and we will not stop fighting until all New Yorkers are treated equally. I sincerely believe that some day LGBT New Yorkers will be able to legally marry.”




115 Comments


It would be awesome for NY to pass this nowif we get DC & NY on board, we will have some momentum heading towards CA 2012.
GENDA? GENDA? GENDA? GENDA? GENDA? GENDA?crickets…crickets…crickets…crickets…crickets…crickets
TrueBut…holy shit, it might actually pass!
But yeah, next up either way should be strong pressure for getting GENDA out of its committee in the next session.
Good luck New York!
Have you calledEmpire State Pride Agenda to ask them what the plan is for getting debate on a vote on that? It’d be great to have some real information on this rather than just assumptions.
“next session”…and then “next session” and then the “next session after that” and then the “next session after that” and then the “next session after that” and then the “next session after that” and then the “next session after that” and then the “next session after that” and then the “next session after that” and then the “next session after that” and then something else non-trans-specific but gay will come up and then…
but its always now for same-sex marriage.
News reports seem pretty real to me – and the past on this allows for certain assumptions
can you link to some news reports?all i get is opinion and heresay. i’d like to evaluate the reports myself. if you have links, that would be great, thanks!
Oh, DiazI have turned my volume down, and he’s still grating on my nerves.
The reports are all of the reports saying that SSM is in the agenda; no mention of GENDAIf there are any reports saying that GENDA is going to be slipped in today with the other bills being considered, please let me know. If NY does what NJ did when it did its GENDA-Civil Union one-two punch, then I’ll cheer right along with everyone else.
If not, I’ll stand by everything I’ve already said – and reiterate it, but only louder.
Try to know moreabout the status of the bill and plans to move it forward, post a diary about it and I’m sure people here will be more than willing to help. That’s a far more effective way to make your point.
YupI shut it off for a minute… GAH.
Basically,this ass-hat (Diaz) is saying others should join in him in voting no on marriage equality because he is a persecuted minority and the gays are not. What a f**king ass-hat!!!!
I LOVE Sen. Schneiderman! n/t
he’s doing a great job up there.
Why is itthat when our side speaks it is always sensible and straight forward, but the other side always sounds contorted, twisted and nonsensical?
i second thatwas just about to post the same. very well put. senator diaz was hurting my brain also – esp his bizarre assertion that this vote will affect many people, but was talking about himself and other homophobes.
Senator Eric AdamsJust disassembled everything Senator Diaz said, by listing most of Diaz’s “list” of states that voted against recognition and saying “these are also states that sold africans as property” and is now talking about civil rights.
Hero.
Wow.
Senator Duane has been outshone.
I reiterate my GNDA concerns, but…I’m still watching – as I always do in such things – to see just how insane the arguments get on the anti-marriage side (remember: my beef is that Ts are being left behind yet again, not the notion of SSM).
I’d never seen or heard Diaz in action before now.
I think ass-hat is being far too charitable.
Uhh oh….Adams is playing unfair! He’s using history!
His speech has been amazing… Incredible
Senator Eric Adams, wow.Just wow.
“There’s something special about New York. We have a legacy of setting the tone for the rest of the nation.”
A pentecostal hispanic minister in the Bronx constitutes a persecuted minotiry?Hardly. He rules the Bronx.
Any chance he can be persuaded to run for the Gillibrand seat in 2012?
Gave me CHILLSHe was amazing…
Two votes picked up in debateSenators Valesky (undecided/no) and Parker (soft yes) both a firm yes.
Don’t tease me. . .I’m keeping a pessimistic approach this morning – I don’t know if I can handle another let down right now. . .
Listening to this debateI’m actually positive about the prospects for GENDA. They won’t vote on it today, but if the debate today is at all sincere, they won’t avoid a vote in the near future. Of course this is just my opinion, because nobody is providing any links to any real information on the status of GENDA…
Well…to be fair, “same-sex” marriage is also marriage equality for straight transsexuals who are blocked from marrying partners they love and can affect marital recognition for some homosexual or homoromantic transsexuals. So it’s not like trans people are really left off the bus in the marriage equality debate.
But, yeah, GENDA does need to pass soon in NY. But it won’t happen today, since I assume the same thing needed to happen with the Assembly repassing it in order to pass in the special session. Thus, it can’t possibly be passed until the next session at the latest. And the pressure should definitely flare up to that purpose.
Yeah, me too.Although, NY would be BIG.
Hey kevinchiHow are you doing?
From Senator Eric Adams
I’m loving Savino’s speechso funny..she has a lot of common sense.
My godI LOVE Diane Savino! Great takedown of the “sanctity of marriage” argument. Finally someone rubbing the marriage reality TV shows in the haters faces!
Savino is FANTASTIC!!!I’ve only tuned in while people were giving fantastic speeches… did I miss a whole lot of scary crap?
actuallyI have yet to hear any speeches in opposition aside from Diaz.
NoDiaz was the only hater so far. And honestly, I think his words provided us with a lot of future ammunition.
A thought for the future:How about a future in which NY’s two US senators are Diane Savino and Eric Adams?
While that would be excellentSchumer and Gillibrand are already very much in favor of marriage equality… And are probably more electable state-wide.
Thanks for the info, tbaxfer and Lurleen.Don’t they need a bunch of Republican support to get it passed?
Are you a New Yorker?If so, please red this urgent email from Senate Speaker Quinn
Neither Savino nor Adams could be as much of a corporate-hack Dem as is Schumer
Ok.Although a tooth has been bothering me on and off the past few days and I have no sick time…and fresh memories from all that dental sugery over the summer. But, it only seems to be acting up when I eat something sweet so…
On the bright side, if marriage equality does win in NY today, then the bigots would have to go back through the legislature in order to get a initiative on the ballot.
From one PK to another,and from the bottom of my heart, thank you Senator Hassell-Thompson for your testimony. You are a leader indeed.
Just yank the damn thing outand be done with it – then you can eat all the sweets you want. . .
Oh my, days like this, I love this processand the best our country has to offer.
Here’s a listof the undecided Senators, if people want to try to keep score as they watch.
http://thepoweronline.org/blog…
I hope it passes, for the sake of those in our communities who want to get married. And I wish them luck. They’ll need it dealing with Democrats.
I hope it passes in spite of the fact that marriage is hokum and a categorically reactionary way of partnering. The state really has no say in partnering except to protect women and children. Otherwise partnering should be free and easy to get in and out of and the benefits now reserved for straights should be open to everyone, including single people.
The cult’s opposition to SSM ought to be criminalized. They have no right to interfere in political or civil affairs and should lose their unfair tax exemption. The three things that create revenue for the deadbeats called priests, pastors and ministers are raking in money on marriage, donations from the dense and unfair tax breaks. Part of our fight for civil equality has to be to take away their financial base.
But an even more important part is that we have to break with the Democrats and reformist who refuse to include rights for trans folks in our agenda. We have to tell the Barney Franks and others like him that opposition to one of our community is opposition to all of our communities.
I’m about ready to pop. . .C’mon Duane – you’re just babbling now – let’s get to the vote before I die of nerves!!!!
I know!!
StallingWaiting for the GOP to be present so they can proceed with a vote. They apparently have all the firm “yea” votes they need but now the GOP needs to be in the chambers to finally vote.
Sounds like they’re headed back now, finishing up their prepared press remarks and the inevitable post-vote circus.
He is starting to enter theI once saw an interesting leaf and then the asteroids killed the dinosaurs level.
Bring it home, Duane.
I started to wonderif it was some more advanced stalling technique or something. I mean, come on – he’s talking about his “gay hip” right now!
I really hope you’re right they have the votes… do you know something I don’t?
voting!
They’re calling the roll right now…So glad I happened to hear about this in time to watch it happen!
This better be good…I’ve been putting off grad work that is in much need of being read and written!
But seriously… ahhhhhh!
Senator DiazShut the fuck up!
Senator Diaz…..…..wow, used President Obama against us. Yes, ANOTHER person uses the president’s words against us.
I’m hearing a lot of NOsYIKES
I’m hearing a lot of NOsYIKES
New YorkersIf you hear any Republican voting with us, let us know.
And Hillary Clinton as well…though Sen. Duane corrected his bigoted ass.
And listen to all these black legislatorsvoting yes.
Preach it brotha Kevin Parker!
Where is it standing right now?I’m in the computer lab, but I have to get down one floor to class in 4 minutes. And in the comp lab I can’t load up anything with audio so I can’t hear the vote.
Can someone tell me how it is looking right now so I’ll have some sense as I head into class?
It faileddarn
it didn’t pass.
Unbelievable…..24-yes 38-nay
Uneffin’ believable.
We lost…30-24, if I heard the count right.
Blech
Is it my imaginationOr was he the only person to actually speak against it?
If so, WTF?
There are bound to be a few articulate bigots in the NY Senate. Are they afraid to have YouTube clips generated of them saying how they really feel?
that’s 38-24
Disapointing, not unexpectedIt faced an uphill fight from the start.
So much for “we have the votes”Unless Senator Duane meant “we are going to hang these people out to dry”.
Really?After months of assurances that it was “in the bag”? I for one am surprised that we lost so badly.
I never heard it was in the bag.Can you link to that statement somewhere?
Well we can still be happy about DCbut NJ was looking bad and now this setback really hurts them.
Goodbye GENDALikelihood of passing: Less than 0%
Wondering if all those folks who stood back in speaking out because marriage equality was getting all the attention realize what’s going to happen and that there’s no backburner “back” enough to properly describe this situation.
Duaneis a bad staller and probably gave us too much hope, but I think it’s all good in the end. He obviously wanted this to reach the floor so the politicians could go on record. Now they have. And these 8 Democrats who voted against our rights need to pay with their jobs next year.
I believe they are: Addabbo, Monseratte, Diaz, Huntley, Onorato, Stachowski, Aubertine, and Kruger. I may be off on one or two.
At least we know who the bigots are now. . .Now we can go after their seats with full knowledge of their record on civil rights, errr scratch that – religious persecution rights – the right to discriminate against others.
That is the silver lining for meKevin Parker’s my state senator. Very proud of him today. I certainly called his ass enough.
you would think they would have realized it was heading that wayIt didn’t just lose, it lost overwhelmingly.
It seems absolutely heartless to me that all of those people could vote no…especially after those wonderful stories and speeches on the floor. Not only did they vote no, they were too cowardly to actually defend their position on the floor. It sickens me that people can be so lacking in empathy.
Sen Duane repeatedly said the “votes are there”. Clearly they were not and once again the movement as a whole is hurt. We can write off NY and NJ.
Incompetent Dems screw up againWhat is wrong with that party, and what is wrong with New York State legislative leadership? They weren’t even close–it should never have been brought up for a vote. This does huge damage to our cause and will throw more cold water on gay marriage in NJ.
Dems that voted against us come from conservative religious neighborhoods in NYC. They won’t lose their seats. If anything it probably helped.
exactly.this vote was disappointing, but provides vital information for moving forward. this fight isn’t over, and we will eventually win.
I expected the failMarriage equality was known not to have enough votes at the beginning of this year. GENDA was, yet it was obviously sacrificed for this losing attempt. The whole idea of having “a historic debate” is completely inadequate compensation for the loss yet again of the chance to get the civil rights protections for gender variant people that everyone else in New York – including the LGB community – enjoys. We’ll see if the same quixotic failure will happen again next year. It being an election year, I doubt any sort of GLBt bill will even come to light in New York State.
My senator voted no, as expected. I’ll work against her reelection again but I have little hope of success on that front either.
i disagree completelythis moves the effort forward, because now we know who our true allies are. you may want to give up, but this make it possible for the rest of us to focus our energies even better for the next round.
Not exactlyNJ is probably not ready – just like NY. But it is important to take a public vote to find out who stands up for denial of civil rights. Flushing out the enemy is necessary.
they wanted a vote no matter the resultso that we could know who were true allies and who were spineless wimps. now we know.
Name the legislators who voted “NO”The names of those who voted “NO” should be plastered all over the blogs.
at least now they’re on recordand voters can make their choices next year. Remember that 53% of New York voters support marriage equality.
this “genda v. marriage” thing is a false dichotomyi’ve made repeated requests to commenters to provide a shred of evidence that one bill was sacrificed for the other. i’ve seen none. what is the point in pitting one part of our community against the other?
as if we couldn’t figure that out before this vote?
Diaz is a liar“Not only the evangelicals, not only the Jews, not only the Muslims, not only the Catholics, but also the people oppose it,” [Diaz] said.
Totally false: The Reform and Reconstructiionist movements of American Judaism support civil marriage. How dare he twist the facts to fit his bigotry?
you really can’tuntil the vote happens, sometimes the legislators themselves don’t know how they’re going to vote. nobody has a crystal ball.
You both raise a good pointAnd it’s a mixed back nationally with Washington State and Washington, D.C.
What irks me, though, is how this will feed the right wing: “See! Even in the home state of the Whore of Babylon they’re against gay marriage!”
We need to work on pushing for more DPs and Civil Unionsthe public at large does not support gay marriage. In an ideal world they should not have a say but we don’t live in that world.
Marriage equality is the ultimate goal but we need to face the fact that losing is not winning.
I am glad the CA effort looks like it’s standing down for now. OR needs to as well. The group in WA state is not going on a gay marriage campaign next year because it would backfire.
These decisions are not “giving up” it’s called being realistic and not delusional.
Democrat NO Votes =Addabbo
Monserratte
Huntley
Onorato
Stachowski
Aubertine
Kruger
Diaz
(and one other?)
Not ready?Freaking New Hampshire had the courage to pass a marriage equality bill. It’s a Red state, yet the local Dems stood up for equality. NY and NJ, the bluest states in the union = I’m afraid to vote for it.
The evidenceis in the actions of the Empire State Pride Agenda who dropped all mention of GENDA after June. All of a sudden, after we saw it promoted during E&J Day last April along with a couple of call in days (one held, the other promised but never held) GENDA was nowhere to be found.
I also note that GENDA was never part of the extraordinary session agendas, while this losing proposition was, yet ESPA said nothing at all about it. I sent emails and wrote blogs complaining about it and I was ignored. I wrote the governor to strongly urge him to put GENDA into the schedule but it never got there.
It’s obvious that gender variant people were dropped as soon as a marriage vote became a real possibility. It’s obvious from what I saw from ESPA that marriage was their first priority. The proof is in the absence of a real fight for GENDA.
It’s not about blue vs. redThere are more pertinent factors like level of education and level of religiosity. New Hampshire is a more amenable state in the civil libertarian sense than either New York or New Jersey.
Well, everything feeds the right wing, even our wins You know they’d spin a win for us today as “socialist elitists have infiltrated the legislature”.
It’s our job to remind people that the Assembly voted on and PASSED this bill 3 times this session, and that the Senate only failed by 7 votes. Or, we can let the right wing do all the spinning…
The FULL ROLL CALLFULL ROLL CALL
YES: 24
NO: 38
http://blog.timesunion.com/cap…
* Eric Adams (D) – YES “This is about love.”
* Joseph Addabbo (D) – NO
* James Alesi (R) – NO
* Darrel Aubertine (D) – NO
* John Bonacic (R) – NO
* Neil Breslin (D) – YES
* John DeFrancisco (R) – NO
* Ruben Diaz (D) – NO ”Sen. Smith, it is better to keep your word.”
* Martin Malave Dilan (D) – YES
* Tom Duane (D) – YES
* Pedro Espada (D) – YES
* Hugh Farley (R) – NO
* John Flanagan (R) – NO
* Brian Foley (D) – YES
* Charles Fuschillo, Jr. (R) – NO
* Martin Golden (R) – NO
* Joseph Griffo (R) – NO
* Kemp Hannon (R) – NO
* Ruth Hassell-Thompson (D) – YES
* Shirley Huntley (D) – NO
* Craig Johnson (D) – YES
* Owen Johnson (R) – NO
* Jeffrey Klein (D) – YES
* Liz Krueger (D) – YES
* Carl Kruger (D) – NO
* Andrew Lanza (R) – NO
* Bill Larkin (R) – NO
* Kenneth LaValle (R) – NO
* Vincent Leibell (R) – NO
* Tom Libous (R) – NO
* Elizabeth Little (R) – NO
* Carl Marcellino (R) – NO
* George Maziarz (R) – NO
* Roy McDonald (R) – NO
* Hiram Monserrate (D) – NO
* Velmanette Montgomery (D) – YES
* Thomas Morahan (R) – NO
* Michael Nozzolio (R) – NO
* George Onorato (D) – NO
* Suzi Oppenheimer (D) – YES
* Frank Padavan (R) – NO
* Kevin Parker (D) – YES
* Bill Perkins (D) – YES
* Michael Ranzenhofer (R) – NO
* Joseph Robach (R) – NO
* Stephen Saland (R) – NO
* John Sampson (D) – YES
* Diane Savino (D) – YES
* Eric Schneiderman (D) – YES
* Jose Serrano (D) – YES
* James Seward (R) – NO
* Dean Skelos (R) – NO
* Malcolm Smith (D) – YES
* Daniel Squadron (D) – YES
* William Stachowski (D) – NO
* Toby Ann Stavisky (D) – YES
* Andrea Stewart-Cousins (D) – YES
* Antoine Thompson (D) – YES
* David Valesky (D) – YES
* Dale Volker (R) – NO
* George Winner (R) – NO
* Catherine Young (R) – NO
All in pro-equality districtsNOM may or may not have promised to fund a defense of their seats, but that will come out very soon. They already threatened our GOP allies and scared off some “yea” votes, which combined with the 6 yeas we lost in the Dem column means NOM may or may not have blackmailed away marriage equality in NY State.
I don’t see the connectionbetween GENDA being dropped and marriage being pushed. You know, GENDA may have failed all on its own for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with the marriage bill. What conversations have you had with your legislators about why they would or wouldn’t move on GENDA? That is what we need to be talking about here if we want to see movement on GENDA in the future, not sour grapes about another bill getting a vote.
As disappointing as NY is, and it isThe thought of those G*D DAMN Catholic Bishops and Maggie Gallagher crowing in victory just nauseates me.
I know it’s not necessarily about “red vs.blue”But New york really is one in a few states with majority support for mariage equality. Even Quinnipiac polling shows 53% support. This is unacceptable.
Well…In a state like NY or RI or Illinois (where they don’t have marriage, though NY does recognize the marriages from other states) ok. In California or New Jersey or (now) Washington, go for it but not simply on principle.
Show…and I mean really show and put out there that separate institutions can never be equal.
I thought the exact same thing
Well, congratulations
COWARDSIt’s because they’re all a bunch of fucking COWARDS, which while is heartening in that it shows an interesting tide of the bigots being too scared and the good people being the outspoken ones, still comes with a shitty outcome.
PROTEST TONIGHT IN NYC“Angry about the NY Marriage Equality vote…..TIMES SQUARE, 6PM TONIGHT, TKTS STAIRS….spread it!!!”
Post on Facebook, retweet, GET THE WORD OUT!! There is also talk of disrupting the tree-lighting ceremony at Rockefeller Center.
For anyone who missed the speeches……….Of Diane Savotino Eric Adams and Diane Savino may find them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v… and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
The first one is Senator Adams and the second is Senator Savino.
They were BOTH absolutely amazing.
Without gender identity in non-discrimination, there is no non-discrimination for the LGB communityIt’s a loophole big enough to drive a truck through, and even the idiots who run the Catholic Church should be able to see it.
16 states, and whadya get? (couldn’t resist the pun)And there will be more defeats along the way, and some advocates will get dispirited and drop out, others will be more inspired. So it goes.
As the NYT article points out today, look how much has changed since 2000: 16 states have some sort of protection for gay couples:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12…
That covers almost 40% of the country’s population. In 2000 only 2 states did, with less than 1% of the country’s population.