This looks like an amazing documentary chronicling the first time a civil right was put on the ballot, to be decided by mob rule — Proposition 8 — and the millions pumped into the fight by the Mormons in the name of faith. Here’s the first trailer for 8-The Mormon Proposition:
Producer Steven Greenstreet, who sent me the trailer link (it just went live) says it has just been submitted to Sundance other festivals. He was a journalist in 2008, and did a lot of coverage of Prop 8. When he left his news agency, he began working with the crew that made this documentary.

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Would love to see it soonLooks like a must see. However, a question and comment to Reed Cowan: Don’t you see the irony of showing this film at Sundance, in UTAH??? I guess it is a way for snubbing the haters there but I personally will never step foot in the state if I have say in the matter.
Perhaps you don’t mean it like it reads…
But, of course, Prop 8 was not the first time gay rights were voted upon by popular ballot. The repeal of the job discrimination ordinance in Miami in ’77 [Anita Bryant], similar efforts in St. Paul, Minnesota, Wichita, Kansas, and Eugene, Oregon, Amendment 2 in Colorado, Props 6 and 22 in California, etc.
Want more on their fronting of NOM!
And don’t forget their dancing partner in moral crime…
the Catholic hierarchy.
“Months before the first ads would run on Proposition 8, San Francisco Catholic Archbishop George Niederauer reached out to a group he knew well, Mormons.
Niederauer had made critical inroads into improving Catholic-Mormon relations while he was Bishop of Salt Lake City for 11 years. And now he asked them for help on Prop. 8, the ballot measure that sought to ban same-sex marriages in California. The June letter from Niederauer drew in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and proved to be a critical move in building a multi-religious coalition – the backbone of the fundraising, organizing and voting support for the successful ballot measure. By bringing together Mormons and Catholics, Niederauer would align the two most powerful religious institutions in the Prop. 8 battle.” – SF Chronicle, 11-9-08
We assume the documentary looks into the history of the two rich cults hardons for each other against marriage equality going back several years as reported here:
really powerful preview thanks for the linkI wish Mormons could see this through our eyes and know the hurt and anger they caused us….but they won’t.
That’s one thing you get from reading Deseret News….not a moments doubt or hesitation from that CULT, and not an iota of taking any responsibility. Instead they want to act like the MOTHERF*CKING VICTIM.
I’ll never forgive them
Thanks Michael for sharing this Both these evil cults will come down by their own actions.
AgreeNo forgiveness for these wicked cults
Thanks for the videoBut I had to stop it at the 1:00. Go to your hell!
If it’s accepted at SundanceI hope he shows it. And then I hope everyone gets up, packs their shit, and leaves. And then I hope that there is never another Sundance festival in that vile, disgusting, evil place ever again.
I wasn’t even in California, and Prop 8 destroyed my life. It irrevocably broke my family into pieces, and we will never, ever be whole again.
Let’s Portray Accurate FactsDozens of articles and blog comments on Prop 8 used the above phrase to describe the degree to which Mormon leadership contributed to the initiative’s passage. However campaign finance records available through the election showed that the number and amount of contributions coming from Utah and its surrounding Mormon-rich states was inconsequential — somewhat more than $1 million, or roughly 3% of the total amount raised.
Statements filed later show that in the seven days before the election, donors from surrounding states did come up with another $3.5 million in response to an urgent plea for money made by Protectmarriage.com around October 23. That brought the percentage of out-of-state money coming from “Mormon states” to 11%.
Thus, a lion’s share of all money for Prop 8 came from Californians, contrary to wild reports that most of it came from out-of-state Mormons.
Only in California did the LDS Church designate in each congregation a fundraising person or committee or otherwise organize fundraising among its members. A letter from the highest authority within the Church, urging members to do all they can “by donating your means and time” to support Prop 8, was directed to be read to LDS congregations only in California. (California Mormons are only 12% of all LDS members in the United States.)
Finally, unlike in earlier years when the Mormon church supported efforts to preserve traditional marriage in other states, the church did not make any monetary contribution supporting Prop 8. Its in-kind contributions, required to be reported separately in California, were for $190,000, a pittance of the total raised.
By contrast, the U. S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Knights of Columbus together contributed over a million dollars, as did James Dobson’s Focus on the Family. To understand a blunder like this, it helps to know that all ten of California’s largest newspapers editorially opposed Prop 8.
Nice try at twisting the factsLet’s try a few more accurate facts:
Wikipedia.org, complete with references.
Mormonsfor8.com
The Mormon church only admitted to the $190,000 after it was pressured, a common tactic in its history. There are many that suspect even that number is incorrect.
@BotMormon companies and individual donations were well researched and mapped. If you think LGBTs give a flyin’ F*CK that a Mormon who donated lived in CA instead of UT or ID or NV….it doesn’t.
All you will accomplish is gays/lesbians reigniting the mapped sites to boycott Yes on Prop 8 businesses, I suggest you drop your parsing donors cr*p, because right at the moment we have 2 major fights in Maine and WA state, and if you Mormons have dumped a load of funds that come out after these elections….you will see a FURY that will make prop 8 backlash look mild.
btw still feeling lousy from fluI also have time at my puter to create images comparing little Black girls blown up in churches, dogs released on Black women and children, 3 men buried in a Mississippi dam, firehoses turned on Civil Rights marchers on bridges….VS mormons dedicating 5 new temples and the logos of CineMark theaters, Marriot Hotels.
Just try me Bot, cuz I’m really not in the mood for you or Elder Oak’s victim cr*p today.
Intimidation TacticsPlease explain how the GLBT intimidation tactics are not the same ones used against African-Amreican voters in the South some decades ago. I’ll admit that the GLBT protesters don’t wear hoods, but then the KKK didn’t paint slogans either.
OWN Yes on prop 8 intimidation including BLACKMAIL LETTERSTrying to extort $10,000.00, four Yes on prop 8 activist ADMITTED sending, one was a high ranking LDS lawyer.
THIS is a FELONY with 4 year sentence and thousands in fines PER LETTER.
I’ve also seen spray painted driveways of No on prop 8 donors and videos of thugs repeatedly destroying No on prop 8 signs.
SERIOUSLY back the F*CK OFF me today, I’m dredging up the NAACP lawsuits, and SLC police acting as TEMPLE GOONS and paralizing a body guard of the Mormon who was excommunicated for ordaining a Black man.
Paralizing bodyguard who later committed suicide“In 1976 the LDS Church found itself repeatedly embarrassed by one of its own members who became alienated over the priesthood ban and decided to take matters into his own hands. On April 3, 1976, the Salt Lake Tribune reported:
PORTLAND, Ore. – A member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ordained a black into the priesthood Friday, saying he did so in an attempt to force a revision in Mormon doctrine about the Negro race.
Douglas A. Wallace . . . first baptized Larry Lester in the swimming pool of a motel in northeast Portland. He then ordained Lester to the office of priest in the Aaronic Priesthood of the LDS Church . .”
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” The Mormon leaders’ fear of Mr. Wallace led to a tragic incident in which a policeman was accidentally shot and permanently paralyzed. This occurred about the time of the church’s conference held in April, 1977. On April 5, 1977, the Salt Lake Tribune reported:”
and
“With Mr. Wallace and his attorney pressing them hard, the police were finally forced to admit the truth about the matter:
Salt Lake City police officers admitted Thursday that the accidental wounding of an undercover officer occurred during surveillance of Mormon dissident Douglas A. Wallace . . .
“Reports released Thursday by both the county sheriff’s office and the county attorney show that six officers were on stakeout around the John W. Fitzgerald home . . . where Mr. Wallace was staying.
Those who know Mr. Wallace find it strange that there were so many policemen on the surveillance crew watching him at 4:20 a.m. A subsequent story in the newspaper ”
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“Officer Olson apparently could not face the thought of being paralyzed for the rest of his life, and on March 25, 1980, the Salt Lake Tribune reported that he “committed suicide early Sunday morning, according to Murray Police.”
http://www.mormoncurtain.com/t…
YOU were warned the donation maps would be re-ignighted http://www.latimes.com/news/lo…
and
http://www.eightmaps.com/
want the list of major Yes on prop 8 donors too?
http://spreadsheets.google.com…
keep pushing me, and you’ll regret my reaction….buttercup
http://rogueimc.org/icon/2008/…
What intimidation tactics?Marjorie Christofferson can kiss my shapely lesbian ass. No one voted on her rights, assaulted her or beat her, or tried to kill her. Unlike the way mormons acted towards their black members during the civil rights era, and still act towards America’s law-abiding LGBT citizens.
What’s funny in a sick and twisted way is that if there HAD been riots (not lawful protests and business boycotts), and mormons HAD been attacked and died (instead of gay people having our heads bashed in by police and Temple Square goons), you all would be singing their praises for having been “martyred for the cause.”
Go play the victim card in your next fast and testimony meeting. They’ll eat that shit up there.
You people disgust me.
Yes on 8 Campaign Blackmails No on 8 Donors ProtectMarriage.com, the umbrella group behind a ballot initiative that would overturn the California Supreme Court decision that legalized gay marriage, sent a certified letter this week asking companies to withdraw their support of Equality California, a nonprofit organization that is helping lead the campaign against Proposition 8.
“Make a donation of a like amount to ProtectMarriage.com which will help us correct this error,” reads the letter. “Were you to elect not to donate comparably, it would be a clear indication that you are in opposition to traditional marriage. … The names of any companies and organizations that choose not to donate in like manner to ProtectMarriage.com but have given to Equality California will be published.”
The letter was signed by four members of the group’s executive committee: campaign chairman Ron Prentice; Edward Dolejsi, executive director of the California Catholic Conference; Mark Jansson, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; and Andrew Pugno, the lawyer for ProtectMarriage.com. A donation form was attached. The letter did not say where the names would be published.
CBS 8 in San Diego has the money quote from Yes on 8:
Yes on 8 confirms they sent around 30 companies the letter. A spokeswoman told News 8 they are just trying to hold their ground in a passionate race. She added that No on 8 supporters picketed the Manchester Grand Hyatt after Doug Manchester donated $125,000 thousand. The publicity caused at least one very large group to cancel its event at the hotel.
She also pointed to a popular blog that asked readers to dig up dirt on Yes on 8 supporters, see if they’ve contributed to less than honorable causes, or have done something otherwise egregious, with the hope they can force the Yes on 8 campaign to return their contributions, or face a bunch of negative publicity.
http://www.calitics.com/showDi…
smooches Keorilets play bad cop, BADDER MoFo’ cop
I’m not quite up to par, but in SUCH A MOOD, that Bot should b-e-w-a-r-e
Learn a little before trying to defend your religionNext time, before venturing out into the real world, learn a little bit about the issues at hand.
You do understand, do you not, which side of those civil rights battles the Mormon church was on back a few decades ago? You do remember what it took to get the Mormon church to finally abandon its racist policies? You do remember just how much pressure had to be placed upon the church before it changed? You do recall that the “revelation” to grant blacks the priesthood came not so much from God but because the church was running up against the physical impossibility of determining exactly who was black and who was white in Brazil?
Well, even if you don’t remember, there are some who do.
Now, which side of that battle was the Mormon church on? And why should we consider that comparison of the church to the persecution received by the African-Americans? The Mormon church of the time was doing its best to persecute the blacks. It’s a position that it enjoys.
Would you like us to resurrect the quotes from Mormon authorities (GAs) about the blacks?
RACE and the MormonsI’m collecting quotes to add to images, but I’ll preview a few choice ones:
“Just a few weeks after this statement was issued, Joseph Fielding Smith, the son of Joseph F. Smith and later church president, told Look magazine, “‘Darkies’ are wonderful people and they have their place in our church.” The next year he stated that “the Lord” established priesthood denial.”
http://www.utlm.org/onlinebook…
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Coach Hudspeth pointed out that he has a young Negro man on the campus now, and they feel this is the time to bring him into the athletic program. “In the past we felt we should discourage the Negroes because we felt they would not be happy in the social situation here. We have certain rules and regulations which we won’t change. They must meet academic standards. We will not allow inter-racial dating. We are only 35 minutes from Salt Lake City where there is a Negro community, and we are setting up appointments and introductions there.”
Daily Herald Feb. 16 1970
One benefit of being an OLD F*CKI know the History on race, and ERA that Mormons killed in Idaho, and the fag bashing pamphlets For Young Men, they published for decades, and the Mormon gulag treatment of gay youths the thugs like Buttlar tortured.
More quotes
There are a lot more where those came from.
fascinating stuff I’m researchingNET was white vigalanties arming neighborhoods for any threat of race riots….in UTAH fer chrissakes, what they thought three Black athletes and a book of matches was gonna burn down the state?
One that gave me a BIG chuckle was THE NEGRESS Gladys Knight as they referred to her, and they were giving her a compliment…..LMQAO!
Please explainhow a campaign devoted to stripping an unfavored group of civil rights is in any position to make claims of moral high ground. For that matter, please explain why hetero-supremacists still feel so comfortable demanding that LGBT people answer for actions which your people invented out of whole cloth.
LDS just like Black Civil Rights in 1960……image http://img.villagephotos.com/p…
don’t mess with an old queer with a head cold
trying image link again http://img.villagephotos.com/p…
don’t know what’s the problem with image link http://img.villagephotos.com/p…
Dude, you need to put downthe hooch, the crack, and the tina and shut the fuck up.
That’s one of the most insulting things that I have seen on this blog. You really want this black and gay man to feel sorry for you?
If I did, then I would be smoking crack, fo’ sure.