We’ll discuss Mike’s recent interview with Joe Solmonese (full audio here), and talk/brainstorm about some ideas on how to foster more diversity at the top, not just concrete actions, but by cultivating broader and more creative thinking that could lead to solutions.
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UPDATE: I just finished the show. If you missed my suggestions for HRC, here they are from my post.
[I] took a few minutes to think about ways to address the diversity problem, since I think we can all agree that leadership that is more like the LGBT population at large is a healthier organization than one that is largely homogenous — or at least one would hope that would be desired in 2009. A couple of ideas to ponder…
1. How about saving a couple of seats on the board as elective posts? Right now, you have to have $$$ to get into the game and on a board. These positions could be selected by membership in a vote, perhaps regionally, to identify activists with promise in terms of leadership. This does two things — identifies talent and grooms them at a very high level in our movement. Surely any organization would benefit from this more grassroots approach to representation. A presence and a voice from another socioeconomic perspective can save an organization from committing grievous, PR mistakes because of the blind spots that are common in groups that are too homogeneous. It’s almost never out of malice, the errors in judgment are because of being in a bubble of ignorance or insensitivity that can easily be corrected by simply engaging on a peer-level with someone who is not like you, as opposed to relating to someone you are in a paternalistic role with.2. How about making space at the (dinner) table? Surely some mondo goodwill and PR could be gained if some of those “captains” who buy a whole table at a gala could participate in a matching donation to buy four $250 seats for activists of note around the country who cannot afford the ticket but who are just as politically savvy and successful as the rest of the people in the room. They could be selected by the board (or an HRC committee) that would bring the work they do that doesn’t get the recognition it deserves in a forum that has such a high profile. This could motivate so many people out there to get active.
3. Have a table captain host one activist that they sponsor? This would earn HRC tons of good publicity and goodwill as well, and encourage those with means to get to know and learn about an activist in the field effecting change. HRC could provide a list of activists that these donors could connect with, and everyone benefits — particularly those with wealth who want to do more than just write a check, but not necessarily do canvassing or the field work and then find there’s not much between that appeals to them. Building person-to-person relationships on that level toward a common goal certainly builds more bridges to understanding.
I’m no expert on the subject, I’m just trying to open the door to discussion. What would really be helpful is if someone on HRC’s board would go on the show and pull back the curtain and let us know…
1) How much does someone have to bring to the table to be on the board(s), either through donation or fundraising;2) Are there any board members who do not have to donate or raise funds to have a vote on the board?
3) How many on the boards are POC, women, etc. who are not of wealth? And what do they, as board members think of the level of socioeconomic diversity of HRC decision-makers?
4) What is the process for appointing people to the board(s)?
5) How is Joe Solmonese, as President, evaluated on his job performance?
6) How many members of the board(s) are also grassroots activists (as opposed to activism by writing a check to support programming)?
7) What is the regional diversity of the board(s)?
Has there been discussion about making the boards more diverse in the past? If so, what was the outcome?
Those are honest questions that make no indictment. What they might be is intimidating because they may lead to uncomfortable or embarrassing discussions. Given the level of unfocused vitriol by many toward HRC, it would be understandable. But it’s time to stop thinking that not discussing the elephant in the room will make it go away, or buy better PR for the organization to gloss over it. A good example of that were Joe’s foot-in-mouth statement on CNN that…
perhaps the crowd at the dinner last night was a little bit more politically aware and had a better sense of maybe, you know, what’s at stake and what needs to be done.
That he told Mike during his interview with him a couple of days later that Joe didn’t see anything divisive that weekend was an indication that the gloss-over approach is still preferred rather than problem-solving ways of addressing matters.
Also, my questions above aren’t particularly hard if HRC wants to be more transparent about its membership, leadership and make clear that its mission and goals are in alignment with the assertion that it represents “the voice of the LGBT community” on the Hill and to the media.
In my own professional experience, revisiting goals, mission and alignment from time to time is a sign of a healthy organization, not one in crisis. Good leaders know that.



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2 steps to make HRC more diverse:1. Fire Joe.
2. Hire Pam.
Who’s with me?
I think its actually getting worseI just now listened to the audio from Mike’s interview with Joe.
Am I hearing this correctly: Joe has now gone beyond counting as members people who’ve given $1.00 to counting people who haven’t given anything?
This transcription (and I’m sure I missed some of the ‘you know’s in this) begins around the 17:30 mark of the audio clip:
Am I missing something? Or did Solmonese just admit to inflating HRC’s membership even more than was proven to be the case in the past?
I’ll be listening.Kat. The point is that you don’t have to have money to be a member. You just have to be willing to put in some time. Write letters if there is an action alert. Call people if HRC needs calls to be made.
You’re a member the moment you join the mail list.
I have Sirius and I’ll tune in. I definitely will be tuning in although I usually don’t listen to Michaelangelo. I mainly listen to Derek and Romaine. Michaelangelo should ask the three ladies that run HRC’s diversity program to come on so they can receive Michaelangelo and Pam’s anger about the issue. It’s strange that these three ladies shouldn’t have to answer for the lack of diversity along with Joe.
I look forward to hearing Pam and Michaelangelo having all the answers.
You’re kidding, right?
The token presence on the staff of HRC – for barely a year now, and only as the result of a lame attempt to buy forgiveness for the anti-trans political hate crime that it committed in 2007 – of one of those three is the only reason that there is any trans diversity on its staff at all.
I wouldn’t describe myself as angryMichaelangelo should ask the three ladies that run HRC’s diversity program to come on so they can receive Michaelangelo and Pam’s anger about the issue.That would be true of many commenters, though. I’m more frustrated than anything at the 1) over-defensiveness about naming the main demographic that populates the power structure at HRC; 2) inability to admit that diversity is not something that’s impossible to achieve. If you think there’s only one model — money=access=political power/input, then perhaps that’s the real problem; 3) That the MO of HRC is to publicly pretend there’s not a problem either within the community about this, or that the public’s perception, based on that dinner, only confirmed stereotypes about the LGBT community (and that it’s a damaging thing to ignore).
Some of this seems so common sense related, yet it’s this behavior seems so devoid of self-reflection and motivation to deal with the situation.
best idea ever
I have belief in free market of ideas and organizationsIf HRC continues idiocy of non inclusive ENDA or elitist manly white gay men…they’ll become extinct and other organizations will rise from their ashes.
I don’t really see the reason to expend much energy “fixing” HRC, I think they have become a dinosaur, and can toddle down to the tar pits with no help from me.
I’d rather hear young activists of queers and straight allies full of “racial impurities and gender confusion”
(Belieze quote from Angels in America) and what organizations THEY WANT, not what we had in the 1970′s.
FYI: Here is link to note a friend posted yesterday….. with listsof the Board of Directors, Foundation Board, and Board of Governors of HRC.Sent list to Pam, too.http://tinyurl.com/yzyv2ro
I’ve called for removing Joe Solmonese in the past……If the HRC doesn’t see that they have a person in the top leadership position many who identify as T — the T found in their in the LGBT inclusive mission statement — find as a non-credible leader due to statements he made in 2007/2008 regarding T’s and ENDA.
The HRC Mission Statement:
Seriously, the HRC has diversity issues — diversity issues that effect their credibility — that Pam is addressing with her commentary. The organization talks about engaging all Americans, but the organization has on many levels failed to adequately engage “internally” with the broad ethnic, socioeconomic, and sociopolitical elements within the LGBT community.
If the organization is ever going to be embraced as living up to their mission statement, then it’s going to have to stop glossing over its problems and publicly admit where the organization has made mistakes. Then, it’s going to need to talk about the measures it plans to take to correct its mistakes, and then follow through with those actions.
Something overlookedAll great ideas Pam.
Most likely none of these ideas were even thought of or considered if they were is that the HRC thrives and encourages faux exclusivity.
What I mean is that the HRC frequently will reward anyone who brings them the money and treats anyone else as a D list guest. Hell, they even treat people who bring in the cash as D list if they are not in the A list of local community queers. I have seen this modus operandi operate the same way in more than one medium size city (1 million plus) and it made me want to puke.
I used to raise fairly large sums for the HRC and actually never even received more than a very tepid and pissy thank you. It was enough to make me re-evaluate this group from the ground up.
My ultimate conclusion about HRC was/is that this was nothing more than a PR feel good group so that people with poor self esteem could feel better about themselves. HRC has existed and operated as an exclusive social clique for the moneyed, well connected social climbers of all stripes and unfortunately it has not been very good or sucessful at anything else.
As far as I am concerned, the HRC now does more harm than good as they continually provide cover for politicians who do nothing except to invite the HRC inner circle to cirle jerk events.
An InvitationPam – As the Chief Diversity Officer of the Human Rights Campaign and one of “the three ladies that run HRC’s diversity program”, I’d like to invite you to lunch or coffee to answer your questions.
Sincerely,
Cuc Vu
Chamber of GayFrom Mother Jones:
If the
Anti-Everything That Doesn’t Eliminate Taxes for Corporate Monoliths SocietyChamber of Commerce can be called on the carpet, then theForget About ENDA, Gay Marriage is What Matters to the People Who Count SocietyChamber of Gay can be too.Elitist manly gay menThe quickest way to alienate GWM’s is by calling them elitist. Not all GWM’s are elitist, nor are they all manly. Personally I have come a long way on the whole inclusion discussion but all too often when reading the comments on these threads the derision towards GWM’s is just appalling.
GWM’s make up a significant portion of our community. I am a GWM. I am also middle class, and skinny and smart and on and on. HRC is the largest organization out there that is a fact. Many in our community support it financially because it is the largest org out there.
Yes HRC has made mistakes, yes they have some ground to cover in making amends for past wrongs. The way the political system works in this country is by money, money buys influence and gets your foot in the door. GWM’s didn’t make those rules, those are the rules of politics. HRC is only playing the game as all other Lobbying groups play. I am not defending them, trust me, they have not gotten a dime from me since 2007.
The way to change any organization is by being involved and through an honest dialogue. All of this elitist GWM bull is tiresome. Hello there were women on the board when they pulled the ENDA BS in 2007. So what about the elitist women on the board, but funny I hardly ever hear any one say a word about them.
If it were not for the Rich White G’s and L’s there would be no organizations. Lets not bite the hand that feeds our organizations. Yes we can disagree with them, yes we can work to change them but stop singling out one group for derision when the board is most certainly made up of more than just GWM’s.
I don’t knowI’m a GWM and don’t take umbrage at PeteyPornPig’s comments. I don’t feel that PPP is talking to me as I’m not a member of HRC. And it is in part, because I don’t relate to the demographic they seem to be representing. I may share a gender and a skin tone (as does Cleve Jones, and Dan Savage and Michelangelo Signorile), but similarities stop there.
I am!
except checking a Congress person’s voting record which now is EASY for anyone to do at MANY sitesHRC does absolutely NOTHING for my life.
and btw…I’m also white and queer as F*CK.
I’ve brought up wealthy lesbians on other discussions of HRC.
in my post above there was a typo manly was meant to be mainly.
HRC’s Mission statement needs to be amended since fall 2007Right after”transgender equality” it should say; “except for political bargaining purposes, where we will dump any one of the LBGT groups as needed for political expediency purposes!”
They would at least be able to meet that mission statement! HRC is a big balloon they do not have as many members as they claim. They take credit for events and passage of legislation that they were not even involved in! They Rate companies as positive to LBGT diversity that are anything but. (HRC would be rated at the bottom of their own rating system) Pam, when you have lunch or coffee with Cuc Vu ask her why Donna Rose resigned? Also could you ask her for me “When is Joe Solmonese, going to apologize/or just admit that he did not mean what he said at the 2007 Southern Comfort Conference in 2007?” Regina
Mainly/ManlyEven if we transpose manly for mainly in your particular post you are still singling out just GWM’s not Lesbians. If you are going to call out HRC on elistist behavior, the elitist behavior was committed by both G’s and L’s, not just G’s. If you are going to complain stop complaining about just one group, call them all out and do it equally. If you are to be expected to be taken seriously then treat everyone involved as a culprit and stop just singling out G’s. That is what I find offensive. Not all G’s are the problem but when you post crap like this it only serves to further alienate them/me. That is not rocket science, but reality.
two of my posts addressing elite lesbians in HRC http://www.pamshouseblend.com/…
and on the same thread
“Since I don’t move in the elite circles
I can only speak from knowing some of the activists I’ve worked with, and there were quite a few affluent lesbians at the upper eschellons. I’ve read of those putting on major GLAAD events run by women, HRC headed by a woman, and several women lawyers active in NAACP, Lambda Legal, ACLU.
So without having cocktails at HRC events, I can’t say for sure, but my guess is it ain’t all gay men.
On the conservative side of our community I’ve read the majority of the Austin 12 are also massively wealthy lesbians.”
LinksDo you really expect someone who is reading your comments to go back and read all of your historical comments to find out your meaning when you make a broad statement? If you are going to make broad statements then preface what you are going to say.
Specifically in this comment you single out elite GWM’s. What you should have said was both elite GWM’s and LWF’s to be accurate. As a GWM when I read that it appears that I am being attacked just for existing…you need to be clear in each post where you are coming from.
As I read through comments I often see how many are attacked for using sloppy terminology and uttering things that are hurtful to many in our community. Especially the T’s. When the G’s are singled out in this manner I find that personally offensive and I am just letting you know so that in the future you can preface what you are saying so as not to repeat the same thing twice.
OK this has gone on WAY more than interests meAs I counseled Pam, when she got sniped at over Rich White Gays….RWG from the Open Left writer
send this Lisa Allen song lip synced and call it a day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?f…
btw calling GWMs elitist isn’t the fastest way to alienate themCalling them old, saggy, and ugly works MUCH FASTER
Why dont you say thatin your post, you just single out GWM’s. Just make excuses and then you wonder why you are alienating people? I can see why you would loose interest in having civil discourse when you are just avoiding the real conversation.
wowand that gets you dialogue?
not too good on the whole HINT thing are ya?With the corrected typo of manly to MAINLY that would include OTHERS besides GWM.
THEN I told you I had mentioned lesbians.
THEN I went back through pages of my posts to prove I had mentioned lesbians.
STILL you wanted to continue your SNIDE little rant.
tell it to someone who gives a sh*t!
no that ENDS dialogue
ahh so you want to end dialogueI get it…attack and agitate and revile GWM’s and that gets you where exactly? If this is supposed to be the LGBT movement and you dismiss G’s this way you deserve exactly what you get…nothing.
I’m not the LGBT movementand this brings us full circle to HRC which provides my life exactly….NOTHING
since we are both GayI’m not dismissing gays,(I love the gays, ask all of my gay lovers) I’m dismissing YOU
We are all the movementand apparently you want nothing to do with it. So if you are not a part of the movement then you are a part of the problem. If the HRC is doing nothing for you maybe it is because you are doing nothing for it…it’s ok, I will forgo that one because many are against the HRC, but you are a part of the LGBT movement right? If you are a part of the movement then you have to own your statements and accept how they are rude and offensive.
If you cannot do that then you are no better than the HRC and therefore deserve ridicule and forgo your right to disparage them. In other words shut the hell up.
apparently you cannot readas you have failed to answer a single question I have asked thus far. Dismissing me is just far too easy, but hey I get that, your not interested in a real conversation…just disparage GWM’s and leave it at that.
@mrqcguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
I’ve been queer before you were BORN, and I don’t need lessons http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watc…
In fact, here’s some friendly advice for any kind of confab:Don’t list ‘waiting until 2008 to hire a trans woman’ as a major accomplishment.
Well, according to Joe, we’re all
KeynesiansHRC members now.Joe wouldn’t lie, would he?
What would be an accomplishment? Opening up HRC’s books to those it claims to speak for – to allow those who it claims to speak for to learn whether HRC has ever accepted any donations of any sort conditioned upon any aspect of opposition to trans-inclusion.
I know the secret handshake
Woody Allen wouldn’t
that was Groucho Marx line
found the quoteI don’t care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members.
Groucho Marx
http://www.brainyquote.com/quo…
seems tome Mark Twain may have said something similar
both said it“I’d never join a club that would allow a person like me to become a member.”
Woody Allen
http://www.quotesdaddy.com/quo…
PeteyI know you aren’t very fond of me still, however…
That is a troll account — a sockpuppet troll like “William Wilson” who is purposely flaming, if it isn’t same troll yet again
No real evidence, but the name, the sign up date, and the fact this is the first thread they’ve ever commented on, using the same trite tropes used often that both you and I are subject to letting get our goad.
I’m not saying disengage. I am saying be aware
Who needs dialogue with these creeps?The faster the HRC vanishes the better. IT’S A SCAM!!!! A giant money-suck that claims to represent us but doesn’t in any way shape or form. What it represents are Beltway insiders wanting to get even further in.
And nothing more.
Apologies to GrouchoI’d just always heard it associated with Woody Allen.
even with this reaching out to Pam, people are still mad! some are never happy.
I’d read that HIT PIECE from Open Left against PamNot so much a reaching out, more a reach around, and not in the fun way.
HRC another too big to fail….LIELike free speech, we need MORE (organizations) not less.
That’s why I want to hear what the new activists, want in their organizations, not what we created 30- 40 years ago.
HRC needs to ask it’s members (the folks filling buckets of contributions at every PRIDE),not the upscale Party attendees:
“What have we done for you lately?”
sing out…janet
Janet Jackson- What Have You Done For Me Lately
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
To a make up to Groucho….here’s Lydia the Tattooed Lady http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
one of my favorites