From MSNBC’s ‘Lord of the Flies’ at U.S. Embassy in Kabul?; Oversight group: Workers subjected to hazing, other inappropriate behavior:
Guards hired by the State Department to protect diplomats and staff at the U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan live and work in a “Lord of the Flies” environment in which they are subjected to hazing and other inappropriate behavior by supervisors, a government oversight group charged Tuesday.In a 10-page letter to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the independent Project on Government Oversight contended the situation has led to a breakdown in morale and leadership that compromises security at the embassy in Kabul where nearly 1,000 U.S. diplomats, staff and Afghan nationals work.
In a statement on Wednesday, the U.S. Embassy said it was aware of the POGO report. “Nothing is more important to us than the safety and security of all Embassy personnel — Americans and Afghan — and respect for the cultural and religious values of all Afghans,” the embassy said…
Morning Joe has a video up on this where the only female reporter on the set, Mika Brzezinski, objected to the behavior.
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It was pretty depressing to see the “boys will be boys” defense of the unacceptable behavior by contractors on embassy grounds being put forward by the male reporters/commentators on set.
I sent in this tweet to the show in response to the segment above, which actually was read by Mika Brzezinski on air a few minutes after the segment above aired:
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@morningmika I spent 20-years in the US Navy. Job tension may explain bad behavior, but doesn’t excuse it at all. Accountability matters.
Here’s my issue here. How men treat women when they are “blowing off steam” in military and quasi-military settings impact women servicemembers and employees.
Back in the late 1990′s, when I was in the Navy stationed on the USS Coronado, my then female division officer experienced sexual harassment. Specifically, four sailors {a mix of rated Firemen (E-3 and below) and junior Petty Officers} were peeping through screw holes and open cable runs to watch her as she and other female junior officers showered. Apparently, at least one male Senior Chief Petty Officer was aware of the violations of the sexual harassment regulations, but tried to handle it by telling the four sailors to stop. The sailors didn’t.
I was the one who ended up hearing about the peeping, and reporting it to my division officer and the Senior Chief Master-At-Arms (the “police chief” onboard our ship).
To make a long story short, and three of the four sailors were discharged from the military because of the peeping. And, my division officer was to say the least distressed over the incident. And, as a closeted and not yet out of the closet trans woman, I felt internally devastated, and experienced harassment for reporting the sexual harassment.
Bad behavior by military men and quasi-military men can and does impact servicewomen. These contract Embassy guards who engaged in inappropriate behavior — involving sex workers on Embassy grounds — well, how do you think they look at and treat the women they work with? My hunch, based on many experience within the military, is that the contracted guards involved in this particular incident do not consider females in their workplace as completely human.
Frankly, I fully expect to later here that these contractors’ women coworkers, as well as the female Embassy staff, have been inappropriately sexualized by these men involved in this incident. I fully expect that will hear stories related to women in their workplace as part of this story; I fully suspect this story will get much uglier as it develops.
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…BUT from what I read…Hillary's State Department RENEWED their $189million CONTRACT!….and no snarky comments about “after putting up with Bill.'' guys. Ah well,go ahead.
Mika Bis such a tool to put up with Joe Scarborough like that… These are private contractors, so this sort of behavior is OK. Or… it’s a war zone, so it’s OK. Which is it? And Scarborough’s advice: “Don’t take pictures.”
i saw that segment tooand it hit me the same way. the boys blew it off and mika called them on it. mike barnacle and joe would feel differently if their daughters/wives were serving with those contractors or if those contracters were female and bringing in prostitutes of any gender. hazing is rarely the ‘fun ritual’ it is presented to be and people die when it goes wrong. the boys’ attitude that sex and drinking happens in war and shouldn’t be overblown is why all this stupidity continues. most armies use rape as a tool. should the usa tell our troops to rape since ‘everybody else does it’? do they really want our troops and contractors [many are former troops] drunk and fucking women on embassy grounds? are these women there voluntarily? if they are ‘brought in’, who is bringing them and where from and who is paying? this is sexual harrassment on the job for all the unwilling and shy people that are intimidated by this abusive behavior. this is a symptom of a failure of leadership. i don’t care if troops can drink or have consentual sex at a brothel, but this isn’t that. it is a symptom of a larger problem.
Big hugs to Autumn…What she said? True, totally true. As a Navy vet with 20 years myself and IS to boot they rarely stop at ‘bad behavior”. They typically do end up having legal infractions, the kind thats hard to cover up.
For anyone, ANYONE to minimize or trivialize it just shows me just how ignorant that they are about human behavior in general.
If you let them run wild like that, sooner than later they know they can do anything they want too and the DO!.
Autumn’s incident in the Navy? I saw that too, except the women were taken off the ship and blamed for the whole thing.
I’ve worked in a lot of very masculine work spaces where they were allowed to run wild and invarably someone went to jail for sexual assault.
And I’m thinking a few guys at MSNBC need a time out and some HR training.
“Boys will be boys” obviously needs to be revised:Boys will DO boys.
And Paid Contractors should be held to an even higher standardAfter all, they are there because of a paycheck. They have the option to walk if they don’t like the higher standard working conditions.
She had PHOTOS, lots and lots of photos…On the Rachel M show tonoc…too many photos for me even… and I like good porn.But vodka butt shots! On TV! Oh my.. $180 million per year.PS. She also reported that Hillary REHIRED Blackwater…you know the ones responsible for massacring Iraqy civilians. So wheres the bad with these guys right?
Are there more photos with women in them?http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/…
So these right wing contractors get drunk and turn gay? Is this why they think they can pray away the gay?