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Jeremy does the hard work so you don’t have to. He’s taken a surf through the spruced-up site for the coalition of hate and has noticed some similarities to “product” churned out by NOM. A couple of his observations:
(1) The National Organization For Marriage‘s fingerprints are all over this thing! Some of the copy is lifted directly from past NOM press releases, and most every bit of information (and stock phrases like “whether we like it or not“) are pulled right out of the Maggie Gallagher playbook. So make no bones about it: There’s all kinds of out-of-state influence here.(2) Some of the claims are unbelievable, even for the reliably deceptive ‘pro-marriage’ movement. Like, for instance, the claim that the Roman Catholic Church has “historically fought hard for the dignity of homosexuals” because they have “worked to improve AIDS funding and provide hospice and health care for gays and lesbians in need.” Apparently Stand For Marriage Maine has forgotten that the Roman Catholic Church and its head Pope dude refer to homosexuality with words like “intrinsic moral evil” and “objective disorder.” If that’s “dignity,” then we would hate to see disrespect!
That’s just two out of 10 interesting items. Go surf and read the rest.
For your entertainment, here’s what’s going to happen if marriage equality remains the law in Maine…smell the BS
Examples of the legal conflicts that will be created include:* The refusal of a religious school to offer housing to married same sex couples could be sued or forced to stop offering housing to all married couples;
* A religious organization that refuses to hire or retain an employee in a same sex relationship could be sued;
* A religious individual who owns a business such as a photographer, florist or inn keeper who refuses to participate in a same sex wedding could be sued or fined;
* A religious-based social service organization could lose government funding for refusing to provide same-sex couples with spousal benefits; and
* Professionals like doctors, psychologists, counselors and others who conscientiously object to same-sex marriage can have their licenses revoked.
You can always contact them (info@standformarriagemaine.com) and let them know what you think of the site. 
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Huh?
When would a doctor have to deal with same-sex couples and gay marriage issues? How would this ever come up in a real life situation? I wonder…
“Doctor Smith our wedding bands are stuck on our fingers and won’t come off, can you amputate our fingers?”
“No, I cannot do that. I conscientiously object to same-sex marriage.”
“If you don’t amputate our fingers, we’re going to have your license revoked!”
“Damn you gays and your same-sex marriages! Damn you to hell!”
Ah… I see their point. I stand corrected.
I think that they had the Benitez case in mindDoctor: No fertility treatment for you, godless lesbians.
Etc.
These contentions are mostly about non-discrimination, though, not marriage equality. I don’t think there is much of a difference in their eyes, though; the treatment of LGB folks they prefer (i.e. convert, go into exile, commit suicide, or at least stay silent and celibate) goes against both.
I think this is more of an attack on the Gov. & Legislature of MaineWho supposedly took extra time on this specifically to deter any claims that religious organizations or business would be impacted. Someone might want to let them know that they are being slandered.
Yeah that case still baffles me…I don’t get how Physicians who pedal in artificial insemination and storage can claim to be pro-life knowing that the business inherently involves issues of choice for the health and well being of the patient and babies in cases of multiple healthy fetuses, as well as the need to at some point end the life cycle of perfectly healthy and fertilized fetuses at the end of their storage cycle? Isn’t kind of like living the pig life in “Animal Farm”?
Their list of “legal conflicts”These don’t strike me as legal conflicts at all. They are things that should have been law years ago.
All their arguments are false1) Religious schools have already got the right to restrict behavior or service to anyone who they feel doesn’t adhere to their religious beliefs in any way. They just can’t accept public funding while they do so.
2) Same argument as number 1, regarding employment.
3) Persons who operate businesses which are open to the public are already required to obey any non-discrimination laws, regardless of sexual orientation, if such laws exist. The right to discriminate doesn’t hinge on religion.
4) Yes, an organization which accepts government funding cannot discriminate. That is already true anywhere non-discrimination statutes exist. Again, it’s the same argument in different clothing.
5) This last one is nonsense. Doctors and medical professionals retain their freedom of speech, and can think and say whatever they please in their private conduct. They cannot, however, conduct themselves in a discriminatory, or derogatory manner while providing medical care to the public. It’s kind of against their hypocratic oath too. It’s the same argument again, in medical garb.
Ok, I have to study thisSince I will be in Maine soon.
laws are for atheists and queers, not fine upstanding “christians”i’ve always been baffled by the stance of those who claim that simply because they choose to have “deeply held religious convictions” this exempts them from following the same legal requirements as their neighbors, or that they should be hired and paid for a job that they refuse to do. If one is hired as a pharmacist, one dispenses the medicines on the prescription form – if you refuse to perform the tasks required for your job, it isn’t discrimination when you are fired. being granted the privilege of a business license comes with responsibilities, regardless of which mythology you choose to embrace. if an organization receives special rights and monetary support from the government , it just follows that that organization has to follow the guidelines and legal requirements that come with the perks.
but i forgot, laws are for sinners. no wait, “we all sin”, so its just for sinners who don’t get an excuse from god.
Wait for it…
YesI also loved this piece of Jeremy’s and knew anything I attempted wouldn’t hold a candle!
Contact mevia “tips”, kev…
…more kudos for Jeremy on this one.The things he digs though for us are almost unimaginable to me. Glad this is getting shared around.
Yes, but here’s the thingThere are plenty of credulous types out there who will believe that, and more, simply because those info-bits are the first thing they know on this or any issue. The same ones who think that Medicare is not a gov’t program, or that living wills and powers of attorney are death warrants.
The same ones, for example, who can’t find Iraq on a map.
http://www.omahacityweekly.com…
Or that thought that the Ohio state flag was Obama’s personal standard. (Yeah, I didn’t believe anyone could be that credulous either).
http://www.washingtonmonthly.c…
So be prepared to hear the most amazing folk tales about LGBT folk, yet again.