Tim Wise, author of “White Like Me,” and well-known anti-racist activist and member Anti-Racist Action calls out the obvious gigantic elephant in the room about these over-the-top, hysterical reactions from the winger/teabagger/birther crowd that hates Barack Obama with such a passion that they can’t contain their racism as it oozes out of their sleazy pores with abandon.
CNN’s Don Lemon put him on and Wise didn’t hold back.
WISE: Well, you know, not everyone who opposes the president’s plan or him as an individual obviously is acting on the basis of racism. My argument is that there is a background noise of the hostility, that is, I think, about what I guess I would call white racial resentment.
Let me give you an example. We know in Missouri the other day, a white man goes, assaults a black woman, rips up her poster of Rosa Parks and then receives a huge ovation from literally hundreds of white folks in attendance for doing that.
And then as they haul her away, the police in the room, the security, haul her away, these white folks are applauding. She was assaulted, a picture of Rosa Parks ripped up. Meanwhile, there are white folks in the room with posters that refer to the president by the “N” word. No one seemed to care about that.
Secondly, we’ve got right wing radio talk show hosts who for months now have been playing the white racial resentment card to get their forces revved up. You have Glenn Beck saying just the other day on two occasions that the health care bill is really not about health care, it’s Obama’s way to get reparations for black people.
Now, that’s absurd. What kind of reparations do you have to get sick first in order to get paid?
But when you say that and then you send these folks out there or Rush Limbaugh back at the end of May saying that Obama hates white people. Pat Buchanan saying that white men are, quote, “experiencing exactly what black people experienced during segregation” which is, of course, absurd. That kind of rhetoric underlying this opposition makes it very hard for me to think that race is not in the picture.
LEMON: OK. So then if we’re going to put blame on anyone’s shoulders, whose fault is it anyway? Is it — is it people just buying into the rhetoric? Or is it some of the people that you mentioned, some of the conservative talk show hosts there. Should they be more responsible with their language because people may be buying into what they’re saying and not realizing that it’s coded racism?
WISE: Well, words have consequences. And I think if you’re going to have a microphone and you’re going to speak to millions of listeners every day, you have a responsibility to, first of all, do your homework so you don’t tell lies about the health care bill and act like they’re going to kill grandma and then send Sarah Palin out there with a head full of nothing to tell lies to the American people.
And when you do that, don’t be surprised when folks show up at these events and are throwing around buzz words like socialism, fascism, comparing Obama to Adolf Hitler. See, that too, I think, is very telling. Because when you portray Obama as Hitler, as some of these folks at these rallies have done, what you’re saying, and this is very interesting, think about Hitler. We think of Hitler as not just a fascist, but a racial fascist.
So if what they’re saying is, this man, Obama, is a racial fascist, the question that gets begged in a lot of white people’s minds is, hmm, I wonder what race he’s going to come for. Oh, yes, us, because Glenn Beck said it’s reparations and Rush Limbaugh said Obama hates white people.
It gins up this type of hostility and really white racial paranoia and white racial resentment at a time when we need to be seriously talking about issues that face us as a nation and not being engaged in this kind of racial politics, but that’s what’s going on.
LEMON: And here’s the thing, and what I think many people don’t get is that just because you’re on the side of the camera that I’m on doesn’t mean that you’re always going to be objective.
WISE: Right.
LEMON: And I don’t mean — you know, and a lot of people are. But it’s a racket. It’s a gimmick for some people who are into it to make their names bigger or make money for themselves. And the people who are buying into this stuff may not exactly realize that in this process.
WISE: It’s a good point, Don. You know, there’s about 40 years of research, for example, which has found that whenever we talk in this country about social program spending for the have-nots or those who have less in our society…
LEMON: Like I had one guest last night, said that it was — said that it was health care welfare, which was an odd…
WISE: It is. It seems odd, but, see, that’s the problem. Whenever we talk about any type of social spending, whether it’s income support, housing support, nutrition support, or now health care support, there is a large percentage of white America, again according to 40 years of research, which hears black people. They hear Mexicans. They hear immigrants.
There is a perception, it’s often very wrong, but there is a perception that when we talk about government spending for the have- nots, we’re talking about taking from hard-working white people and giving to lazy black folks.
I would recommend that folks read Martin Gillen’s book from the mid-90s called “Why Americans Hate Welfare,” where he shows that the hostility to social program spending of any kind began in earnest in the early ’70s which was precisely the moment where the media representations of poor people switched from being mostly white folks during the Depression, Appalachian poor during the Dust Bowl, to being mostly black folks. There is a racial component to that.
LEMON: Tim, I’ve got to run here, but just real quickly. I was at a town hall yesterday and I really had to take some people to task. They’re very nice people, but they’re using those buzzwords that I don’t think people realize all the time like “real Americans” or “Give Me Back my America” was one of the songs or “Take Back America.” It’s like where has — I don’t — what do you mean by that?
WISE: Well, when you stand up and you wax nostalgic and say things like I want the country that the founders envisioned, when the country the founders envisioned was a formal system of white supremacy, excuse me if I found it a little hard to think that race is not perhaps playing a pretty big role.
Have you noticed the MSM has been slow to hold any of the Republican leadership accountable for this outrage? John McCain feebly tried to shut down the crazies at his town hall, but these people are rabid. I mean come on, when is someone going to ask Michele Bachmann or the rest of her birther caucus agrees with their fellow elected birthers that the President needs to disclose whether he’s circumsized or not — as some of their Base has called for.
Hat tip, Racialicious.



And then as they haul her away, the police in the room, the security, haul her away, these white folks are applauding. She was assaulted, a picture of Rosa Parks ripped up. Meanwhile, there are white folks in the room with posters that refer to the president by the “N” word. No one seemed to care about that.
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I Wish!“experiencing exactly what black people experienced during segregation”
As a white person, I think it would be hilarious if for a week, white people were treated the same as blacks during segregation.
Bathrooms and water fountains would say “white people”, and “everyone else”.
And to REALLY piss them off: no white people served at MacDonalds between the hours of 7AM and 10PM. In other words, if you want your Big Mac, don’t show up during daylight hours! LOL
While we’re at it, I think straight white people should also be rounded up and taken to a stadium or something, even if they’re in the middle of their workday – and maybe they’ll stop screaming about being treated like the Jews, gays and everyone else during the WWII holocaust.
If there’s one group of people who need to be humbled so they’ll shut their big mouths, is heterosexual caucasians.
I have known a lot of gay and bi caucasians with no idea of their own racial priviledgeRacism is not limited to heterosexuals.
This is onlyfollowing the racial coding of the birther movement..and other precedents. ”My Amereica”, indeed! The arrogance of that prhase says it all.
And Bluegrassfool, not all of us are idiots.
TrueI personally haven’t met many gays who were openly and rudely racist, but several times have heard lines such as “you’re cute…..for a black guy!”. WTF?
Oh My Goodness!!Props to both Tim and yes even Lemon for just owning that segment! It is without a doubt the most brilliant thing I have seen from CNN all year. For all the drama of having an African American President I have to say that since the last Presidential election the whole country as been far more racist than I can remember since the early 70s when everyone thought it was socially okay to be. It will be interesting to see if this generation will finally own their style of racism and change.
Bathrooms and water fountains would say “white people”, and “everyone else”. They’d love that. Unfortunately
I KnowAnd that’s why the ones who AREN’T idiots need to make their voices heard (especially in the mainstream media), and drown those idiots out.
The same can be said for Christians: a lot of them tell me “well I’m not trying to take your rights away, and I don’t want you exterminated!”.
Oh yeah? You’re a Christian!
“But I’m not one of THOSE Christians!”
Then you need to stop letting those kooks do the talking for you! Because as far as I’m concerned, a Christian is a Christian is a Christian.
Hmmmm…But OUT gay and bi white males don’t have anywhere near the power in this society that straight white males do. In gay spaces, yes, that power can be (and is often) exercised.
BTW does anyone know who the woman is???It has been bothering me since they ran her picture all over the news. Making her look like the problem. They even let her own congresswoman get away with bad mouthing her and making her look like the obvious problem at the event. And not one news organization it seems as felt obligated to even try to find out who she is or offer her an interview. A sad thing since every other disruptor or gun carrying protesters got full blown interviews.
The very idea that as a black woman her image has been shown or used as an example more than anyone else at a town hall meeting but no one feels obligated to look her up or hear her side of the story, speaks more to me about racism than anything else about all of these stories.
waaah
If this is what people believe they are going through they are fools. White people still hold a hell of a lot of power and privilege… whatever they believe they are experiencing it is no where near what African Americans experienced.
They need to be popped in the mouth. geez.
DegradationIf their water fountains were so low to the ground, one practically had to squat…
If their bathrooms were extremely dirty with broken toilets, no toilet tissue or hand towels and the water in the faucets were a lovely shade of chestnut brown…
They wouldn’t love that.
This is the ultimate fear of the oppressor. That one day, their “lessers” will have power and so be paid back in kind. After all, they were cruel to a group of people totally without cause, so why wouldn’t that group who actually has cause to be cruel do so if they had the chance?
I find this comment really offensive.In case you didn’t notice, all of America–not just “everyone else”–just overwhelmingly elected a black man president.
Hateful and, yes, racist comments like this aren’t going to do a lot to bridge any divides.
any suggestions?“Then you need to stop letting those kooks do the talking for you!”
Do you have any specific suggestions how?
We aren’t letting them do anything, progressive religious communities including Christians have are trying to be heard but assholes screaming for our deaths make for much more eye-catching infotainment than people who aren’t crazy!
Pat Robertson makes the mainstream news a lot more often than Bishop Gene Robinson. The Unitarians host gay prom and nobody knows or cares but the kids who attend, but if Fred Phelps pickets it it’s national news.
The queer group I attended as a kid was run by a pastor and his husband, the deacon who taught middle school confirmation class was openly gay, the elderly Catholic Chaplain of my college refused to stop his gay rights work even when threatened with excommunication. These are not rare events, they’re happening constantly, in every denomination.
More and more churches are recognizing our marriages even when the state won’t, there’s a movement among Episcopalian priests to boycott weddings until full legal marriage equality, and the president of FTM International is Rabbi Levi Alter.
There are priests and devout people heavily involved in all areas of queer rights work and there are queer people heavily involved in churches, openly and without shame or sanction. But we’re ignored or disregarded even by the GLBTQ communities! The best goddamn fighter you can have to counter the religious fascists is people of faith who aren’t insane, but how the hell can we effective fight the assholes when other progressives won’t accept our help or recognize our existence??
Wise is generally brilliant in this segment…But I do have a hard time imagining that representations of the poor in the US moved away from the depression a full 30 years after it ended. Was that just his way of saying “poor rural whites”?
I’d be interested, now, to see what the post-depression media images of poverty in America were during the middle of the century. Clearly there was a lot of poverty after WWII, but three sons, their wives and new babies all crowded into mom & dad’s 2-bedroom suburban home while they waited for their new track houses probably wasn’t a very compelling media image.
its more complicated…i don’t think people are more racist, its just a matter of how its talked about. i think that racist people have known that its generally not acceptable to be overtly racist in speech for the last two decades. but now that has changed because a black man is in power. now they can shout their racism from the rooftops because they are now out of power (mostly metaphorically). of course i think all of this is bullshit and they will find all sorts of justifications for maintaining this hatred.
well, just as an observation…I am a heterosexual Caucasian.
I’m also a heterosexual African American and Native American.
Born before Loving.
So careful how you slice that pie.
It might include you…
Are you talking about the woman with the Rosa Parks poster?
If so….
It hadn’t occurred to me before,but this segment has helped me connect a few dots. Specifically the rubbish about reparations. I think in the minds of a lot of these anti-Obama creeps, health care reform is tantamount to gasp! welfare. All those millions of losers out there who don’t have health insurance–they must be black loafers and welfare queens, right? And this health care reform business is Obama’s stealth way of reinstating welfare, right?
And we’re got four and a half more years of listening to these idiots. They will oppose everything Obama wants to do, no matter how benign, because in their “minds” black people are all clannish sneaks who will do anything they can to stick it to whitey.
The doors of hell are wide open and waiting.
I don’tI think that Denabeth’s point was that the people who once supported segregation are not likely to be put out if it is reinstated. What is so hateful or racist about that?
It’s a serious case of projectionWhen white conservatives get all panicked about minority leadership, it’s because they assume everyone is, at their core, as rotten as they are.
I loved how white conservatives were trying to use “Sotomayor is a racist!” as a reason as to why she shouldn’t be confirmed to the supreme court.
Assuming the truth of that for the sake of argument, since when is being a racist any kind of disqualification for being on the supreme court? Rehnquist used to administer skewed “literacy tests” in his home state of Arizona to turn blacks away from the polls, and he wrote this lovely defense of Plessy vs. Ferguson when he was just a law clerk:
Does that sound like anybody who would’ve been allowed to interpret constitutional law in a sane and just society?
Best Quote Has to Be:“The Senators and the Congressmen, I don’t know if they’re listening, but if they are–and the President, ya know–just know that we’re angry that you’re not listening.”
And we’re supposed to consider these people to be part of a real debate on health care reform?!
…Mindlessness at its finest.
No shortage of dullardsThey’re not the sharpest tools in the shed, but I’ve seen better examples of sound bite idiocy. My favorite comes from a fellow undergraduate at UCSD who interrupted a lecture with perhaps 150 students in attendance to stand up and ask, “is now a good time to ask questions?” Proof by example that there is such a thing as a dumb question.
Every once in a while a fresh example of incorrigible irrationality causes me to ponder again the wisdom of democracy. (Not that I think that we actually practice it.) Then I curse myself for sounding like Alexander Hamilton and resign myself to letting them have an equal say.
Oh, wow. That’s classic!Sometimes I enjoy giving them an equal say, just to hear the buffoonery they spew.
But then they start destroying this country, and I’m a little more irked.
Oh, well. Such is a federal republic where we respect their rights and they trample on ours.
What it is they say about how nice people finish? XD
Yes!! Thank you very much!!I feel so much better knowing that she had the opportunity to tell her story!
I have to ask how is it not more racistIf racist people are feeling more empowered to speak and are doing so, while the majority of Americans continue to believe that African Americans are at best inaccurate or at worst delusional about pointing out issues and aspects of racism, simply because the racism of today doesn’t fit the confined definitions of Selma marches or Klan lynching, how is it that we are not living in a time where there is more racism?
That’s what I meantThey would love to have “the other” not using their restrooms and water fountains.
Not overtly negative speech, noBut you have people, usually of liberal and moderate political persuasion in my experience, who say and do overtly racists things they deem positive and complimentary. It can’t be racist if it’s a compliment, right?
He was talking about poor rural whites, yesHe says so right here, though not that exact phrase:
Actually, post-WW2 had a lot of wealth, not poverty, in America; specifically the middle-class expanded greatly. That post-war climate of wealth and innovation here is what put us on top of the world as most of Europe (esp. Germany and Italy from my understanding) was struggling to even get to the point where they could struggle to make ends meet. The war, with one very notable exception, did not physically reach our shores. By that I mean, we had no blitzkrieg like London, the Nazis didn’t march past the Statue of Liberty and through NYC’s version of the Arc du Triomphe, our country wasn’t surrendered as an Appeasement to a tyrant; though we placed the Japanese in interment camps, there was no mass extermination like there was in Europe.
America was one of the leaders in making cars, electronics, machinery… There was a lot of money pouring in here because, with the devastation of Europe and Japan and other parts of Asia, all those places were dependent upon many of our products. Basically, the competition for America in those fields was largely eliminated. That was the heyday, that was when consumerism made a steep climb. That wealth, that “we’re on top of the world!” attitude is what, in my opinion, helped the Baby Boom.
In fact, part of the problem I see with the American brand of arrogance best expressed among the conservative crowd is that they think it is still 1950s America (in SO many ways). It is not. Japan has long since bounced back and is kicking our collective arses in many ways, as is China. Europe is rebounding truly now that the Cold War is over and the fights over Communism are done and those two of the things prohibited a pan-European post-war regrowth like what we saw in Japan.
I think that is why conservatives keep itching for devastating, world-spanning wars. They hope for a repeat of WW2 and for America to come out on top again and have another Golden Age like the 1950s. Of course in the 50s that wealth was largely concentrated among whites and included a huge shift in the workforce as women were removed from positions previously held by males who went off to war. But I’m not going to go all The Feminine Mystique now. And I can rant for days about the social climate of post-war 1950s but I’ll stop here.