UPDATE: Washington Families Standing Together statement on the filing (emphasis mine. no link – via email)
Washington Families Standing Together’s Statement on the Filing of Litigation by Protect Marriage Washington Against the Secretary of StateWashington Families Standing Together is not a party to the litigation. We understand there are competing points of view on the obligation of the Secretary of State to release names of petition signers. Some are concerned that such disclosure might somehow restrict the right of voters to participate in the initiative/referenda process, some support full disclosure and transparency of any government public records and urge that government be as broad as possible in disclosure of all records. Still others are troubled that everyone who registers as a domestic partner is required to have their name listed publicly on line with the Secretary of State, even as those signing petitions to repeal domestic partnerships don’t think their names should be listed.
We want to make sure that this litigation doesn’t distract voters from learning about the lives of gay and lesbian and senior families and the important protections that the domestic partnership law provides these families. The domestic partnership law protects thousands of domestic partners across the state, many with children, serving our communities in such roles as firefighters, police officers, teachers or nursing home workers. Referendum 71 would roll back the law, eliminate those protections, and hurt these families. Our coalition of more than 120 organizations and 90 clergy, religious leaders and faith-based organizations is reaching out to voters to make sure they know they have to vote APPROVE in order to keep the law from being repealed.
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Joshua A. Friedes
Campaign Manager
Washington Families Standing TogetherW 206-324-2570
C 206-679-8546
F 206-324-1708
www.WAFST.org
Looks like Friedes will get his wish for the distraction to go away, at least for the next month; a preliminary hearing has been scheduled for September 3rd, according to Seattle Times. It’ll go away, that is, so long as the press that Stickney constantly vilifies keeps perspective on who is the injured party if the DP law doesn’t get approved in November. Hint: Stickney is trying to divert the conversation from domestic partnerships (which are widely supported), to his overused fainting couch.
This just takes the cake. Larry Stickney apparently thinks that he has some right to be free of criticism from people he publicly vilifies and is trying to keep as 2nd class citizens.
Larry is the campaign manager for the anti-domestic partnership organization behind Referendum 71. He is also apparently Exhibit A in the lawsuit recently filed to prevent the release of the public documents formerly known as Referendum 71 petitions.
Ignoring the real story – that his campaign is causing material and emotional hardship to domestic partners, and the likelihood that the anti-gay rhetoric he and his colleagues use inflames anti-gay hatred and violence – Larry is trying to misdirect sympathies and subvert open government by complaining that he’s received some angry emails and phone calls because of his referendum.
I personally would never bother to waste a call on a proven liar and false Christian like Larry, and I don’t know if there is any real evidence to back up his claims. But presuming the evidence exists, can he really be surprised that he is a focus of criticism when he has made himself a public symbol of anti-gay hate in Washington state?
Let us remember who is the aggressor and who is the victim in the referendum battle. The aggressors are people like Larry, who seek to crush the souls and civil liberties of their victims, gay families. Has a heterosexual ever been lynched or denied pension or survivor benefits for the simple fact of being heterosexual? I’ve heard of not a one. It is heinous for Larry to play the victim card when he is part of the industry that exists to see gays dead, debilitated and without civil rights.
Links to the complaint and some supporting documents are available at the Everett Herald’s Petri Dish blog.
ADDENDUM: I should just remind people that there is a real potential for political and/or financial payoff if Gary Randall and Larry Stickney can keep the names and addresses of the petition signers to themselves. Apparently referendum backers are free to use that information however they wish, such as selling the lists to political campaigns or share with organizations to fundraise off of. But if it’s out there for everyone to see, Gary & Larry’ll never be able to sell or horse trade on it.BREAKING: I was just about to post this when the following news came in
Judge halts release of Wash. referendum signaturesTACOMA, Wash. (AP) – A federal judge is halting the public release of petitions supporting a gay-partnership referendum.
U.S. District Judge Benjamin Settle agreed to the temporary restraining order Wednesday, in a case that questions whether Washington’s open-government laws could discourage free speech.
The case centers on Referendum 71, which would ask voters to approve or reject expanded partnership rights for gay couples.
The names of everyone who signed R-71 petitions are publicly available under state law, and a gay-rights group is planning to post all of the petition signers’ names online.
But the R-71 campaign says that could lead to harassment. The state didn’t oppose the restraining order, but it will defend the public records law in court.




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Sorry to hear that the judge agreed to a TROI think that Ca. voters will think twice since their names were published after the Prop 8 fiasco. Hope that the restraining order is lifted and that the names are revealed. btw, Lurleen, aren’t they still in the process of verifying signatures or did I miss something?
verifyingAccording to the Secretary of State’s blog today, verification will begin “in a few days”.
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I don’t know how to interpret the restraining TRO. I don’t know enough about how they work, so hope some bona fide lawyers will weigh in with opinions and explanations (HINT!
Let me get this straight (pardon the pun)….This BULLY is whining because he’s getting a taste of his own medicine? Oh, well. That’s what you get for bullying people. Here’s how much sympathy this a**hole gets from me: NONE.
I haven’t been able to readall the court documents, only those linked to here. But from those it looks like yes complaining because a few people have said or written some obnoxious things to him, and now he feels paranoid.
I do NOT condone violence or threats of violence. But from what I’ve been able to read, he hasn’t received any or possibly one – the one that tells him to never set foot on the olympic peninsula. but that’s so broad as to be ridiculous.
i don’t know how harassment is defined under the law, so i have no idea if he can legitimately claim that. however, even if he can, it is a stretch to further claim that just because he was allegedly harassed, anyone who signed the petition would be.
Oh my goodness!How many rights and liberties will continue to be crushed based on the perceived fear-mongering of a few anti-gay individuals? But I think we should cry foul on this one and let the state fight it out in court. The State has deeper pockets and we possibly have a campaign to win. Besides if it eats up their quickly dwindling finds all the better. We should not knee jerk into their ploy to drag us into court and waste our resources too.
I don’t condone violence either, BUT-He wants to strip us of equal protections, and in my opinion he deserves what he gets-IF this stuff happened. It’s quite possible he’s a liar as well as a bigoted a**hole. But-I wouldn’t blame the people saying this stuff if it actually happened. It’s high time they got a taste of what it’s like to be bullied.
TRO to protect people who would take away civil rights.Nice move Justice Settle. NOT.
When did Free Speech turn into “secret private speech”Free Speech is something said in the public square. I am always entitled to think whatever I want, and I can openly talk to myself (so long as I remove the battery from my cell phone) and say what I want. I guess that too is free speech, but that’s like the old tree falling in the forest adage. If no one else hears it, is it speech?
The people of Washington (and everywhere else here in the good ole U.S. of A) are free to think or say whatever they want in private. You are also entitled to freely express yourself (within certain societal limits) in public. That’s what the Constitution guarantees. But the instant you equate your expression to free speech, it by definition becomes public speech. And the whole free speech thing is supposed to cut both ways. If you engage in public expression (signing a public petition, let’s say), then you not only have the right to say, but I have the right to see and/or hear it. Just like I can’t exclude your public speech from the court square, you can’t prohibit my listening to it (of course the Bush Administration did a lot to try to change that).
I’m certainly not a lawyer, and definitely not a Constitutional Scholar, but I did take sixth grade civics, and we did talk about the Constitution. This Judge is wrong. You do not get to have it both ways. You can’t expect to speak in public but prohibit a select group of people (or even the entire public) from witnessing your public expression.
The irony of 40 yearsTo think of how this would have played out 40 years ago. The people signing the DP registry would be clamoring (anonymously, I imagine – were such a thing possible back then) for anyonymity. And the bigots (although they would not have been considered bigots then) would have had no qualms about having their names made public.
Our community is making progress, although sometimes it doesn’t feel like it, and it never happens as easily or quickly as we’d like.
Is Larry Stickney that much of an idiot?I guess so! Go ahead, let him waste the anti-71 campaign chest on his frivolous lawsuit to deny fellow Washingtonians the right to see who’s funding the campaign to revoke their civil rights. I can’t wait to see him and his H8ful campaign go down in flames!
TRO/Raw name count from Secretary of State1. The TRO is standard and the court’s granting it does not mean anything. A TRO just keeps the status quo in place for a very short time – a few days or a week – until the parties can be heard. Don’t freak.
2. The WA Sec of State is saying that the raw count – the bare number of names submitted – will be finished tomorrow. Then we will learn whether they really turned in 138,000 or if that was BS. If it is much below 138K, then we are in good shape. If it really is 138K, then there is still a chance that they will fall below the goal once disqualifications are taken into account.
excellent perspectivesometimes it’s easy to lose sight of the fact that things have progressed over time, even if never enough.
i have the sinking feelingthat ADF is footing this bill. :(
good to know on both counts!although, the TRO is presumably until the next hearing, which is set for september 3rd. that’s a long time, especially when people want to see if their identity has been stolen before the possibility of the referendum being certified.
Unless they understatedIn which case…
That’s actually a very good pointI was not aware that the next hearing was that far off. That really changes things.
Ordinarily, a TRO of short duration would be granted to prevent a situation in which the SoS released the names before the parties could be heard. Typically, the TRO would prevent the petitioners’ case from being mooted (rendered pointless) by a premature release of the names, but would impose no real costs to anyone else. If however, R71 were to be certified in mid-August and individual voters who were deceived by the signature-gatherers were denied their right to be heard until it was too late, that would radically change the equation, especially if the count is close to the 120,500 cutoff and deceived signers could make the difference.
Given this, it would be important for one of two things to happen:
1. The SoS goes back to court and asks for an expedited schedule on the briefing and hearing, or failing this,
2. Brian Murphy/Whosigned.org and/or any private citizen who has reason to believe that he/she has been deceived by a signature-gatherer should seek to intervene in the case and request either an expedited hearing or a lifting of the TRO
Obviously, this all becomes unimportant if R71 doesn’t qualify. But since we won’t know that until mid-August (by which time it will be too late to do anything if need be), it would be prudent to act now. The best bet would be to bring this to Brian Murphy and let him decide if he wants to ask the SoS to reconsider its acceptance of the schedule and whether he is prepared have whosigned.org move to intervene if the SoS will not act. Alternatively, we could contact the anti-R71 folks and see if they would want to intervene. If they don’t want to do anything, then at least we could sleep knowing that we did all we could. What do you think?
Raw count =137,689 There estimate of “at least 138,000″ was a tad optimistic but certainly not so far off as to be dishonest. So in sum:
- The conducted a real, genuine campaign
- It was not a sham effort or a scheme to pocket money and run
- They may get this on the ballot
The lesson is that we should take our adversaries seriously and not assume that they are bumbling fools.
Thanks for the update!The lesson is that we should take our adversaries seriously but never neglect showing them for the self-serving lying fools that they are. Fools can be successful despite themselves.
not validated.Still yet to be validated, and trust me if I knew how to volunteer to be an observer for the validation I’d drive to Olympia to do it.
That said. . .based on percentages and with fingers crossed, I think they’re going to fall short.
An interesting development though. . .rumor has it that if they are sucessful in overturning State public disclosure laws, it would apply to . .among others . .DP registration, Sex offender registration and State/County property tax records.
If you want to volunteertry contacting WAFST. I don’t know if they need more people to observe, but it can’t heart to ask! Contact info here.