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Have to lighten the mood around the coffeehouse after the serious Gates arrest post on class issues and news about E. Lynn Harris. From Daddy D’s shop, a report on the understatement of the year:
‘Christians Lack Understanding on Key Issues’
Christians don’t have a thorough knowledge of the Fairness Doctrine, hate-crimes legislation or the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), according to recent research by Wilson Research Strategies. CEO Chris Wilson said the data examined suggest that Christians don’t fully understand the negative impact of these policy proposals on the ministries they support.“The recent change in control of both the White House and Congress has reintroduced the possibility of the Fairness Doctrine being revived,” he said. “Ministries would avoid any commentary that could be interpreted as relating to political or policy issues or risk action by the FEC. Stations would feel pressure to pro-actively drop some radio ministries in favor of music or left-leaning content.
Dr. Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberties Convention, finds it imperative for Christians to know the full impact of the current hate-crimes legislation, which can become law once both chambers reconcile differences between the two versions of the legislation they passed.
“It’s going to have a very chilling effect on speech, religious speech,” Land said. “There are people in other countries that have been arrested and sent to prison for explaining what Romans 1 says about homosexuality.”
Of course they aren’t talking about all Christians, mind you, but the people they consider “real” Christians, not you homo-loving fakers out there.
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If one of these fundie Christianscould explain to me exactly what Romans 1 says in the Koine Greek in which it was originally written with the proper understanding of the cultural context and the proper understanding of why Paul wrote this particular letter to the Christian Jews living in Rome at the time than I’m all ears.
Police union is damanding apology from Obama, re: Gates arrest statementHere’s the story.
Watching the President speak at the WH, live on C-SPAN, and damned if it doesn’t sound like a pseudo-apology w/o saying “I’m sorry” to me…
He spoke with the officer regarding the incident. No doubt, this will be THE news story of the night.
Apparently Crowley suggested thathe, the President and Dr. Gates all “meet up for a beer”. Much discussion about this, whether this is going to happen, etc.
About 5 minute conversation between the 2 men.
Good, I hope they all have to pay their fair share of taxes likeevery other on-going concern in the nation. Take away those tax exemptions and see how far they get brainwashing the next generation.
Speaking of fundie ignorance,did I find these links here? If not, here are some interesting things that may shed some light on what goes on in some of their brains.
Why people vote for Republicans
Basic laws of human stupidity
As you know, it will never happenIn your one sentence alone, you’ve displayed more understanding of Romans 1 then any of those you are challenging.
can i just saythat i’m so happy to see you back, kev!
Thanks, Lurleen!
this being an open thread, i’ll indulge my favorite recent passtime……referendum 71 coverage. and it’s even germane to this diary! as i just posted, gary randall and larry stickney don’t think they have enough signatures, but plan to turn them in anyways. this is an interesting decision, because they know that whosigned.org has promised to publish the names if they became public information (which happens if the petitions are submitted to the state, even if the referendum doesn;t qualify for the ballot). i think they’re hoping that petition signers will be harassed for signing, so that they can then play victim in the next round. this list of petition signers is valuable to conservative politicians and groups. unless there were a pay-off to offset making it public, i think they’d be keeping it to themselves.
I worked with plenty of those fundysTalked about how seminaries were “cemeteries” because they were “dead in the spirit”.
They also looked down on traditional denominations (except maybe Southern Baptist). Preferred those little storefront churches.
Dena
CNN asked to drop Lou Dobbs by Civil Rights group president http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…
Dump that Obama Waffle munching no neck mealy mouth xenophobe racist.
This is over his preaching that birther nonsense.
GoodHope that they dump the creep.
I second thatwelcome back, kevinchi.
And I third it.
Fundy ignoranceI’ve been reading a lot of H.L. Mencken lately. As you may know, Mencken went to Dayton, TN, to cover the Scopes trial personally. His reports from Dayton are very illuminating (and more than a bit amusing). At one point, a local reporter escorted him “undercover” to a local fundy service, which Mencken describes as being little short of a voodoo ritual. One of the attendees explained to him why it is useless to read books:
So why bother, right? I’m sure a great many (if not all) fundies today share that view, which doesn’t amount to anything more than “pig-ignorant and proud of it.” Is it any surprise they have nothing but contempt for the arts and sciences? And for learning in general?
Helping with a wedding tomorrow at a plantation near us.Here’s the amphitheater at this venue.
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We’re helping the same friend I posted other wedding pics, he’s taking over some of the wedding flowers his mother who is undergoing chemo, hasn’t the stamina to do now.
This plantation is in a town about 30 miles away, but I’ve never gone over there, because you need to take a ferry.
It has a lot of old plantations and art galleries and antique stores….so I hope to be able to do some browsing after we’re done.
I have heard this beforebut it is worth repeating. The fundies world view is very different from those who live in the reality based universe. Its the only way to explain how they can call themselves Christians and yet be filled with so much hate. When they talk of moral absolutes, they mean it. Nothing will change in their world as long as they have any say. When anyone else tries to talk about shades of gray or deal with specific issues in a larger context, they only see everything they believe in collapsing all around. We need to understand this better to frame our own messages to the movable middle so that we can get our positions out to them without being completely drowned out by the rigidity of the fundies. We don’t do as good a job as we should.
frigid conversation between Lou Dobbs and Rick Sanchez at end of tonight’s showSanchez described the creepy 72 yo evangelical who thinks sex with 8yo is normal.
Dobbs asked, “what Sanchez called this minister, besides SICK?”
Sanchez answered, “I call him CONVICTED.”
It made me think, wouldn’t it be funnier than hell if Sanchez replaced Lou Dobbs, he’s younger, more attractive, non racist.
Lou Dobbs couldn’t have a more humiliating end to his TV career, than to be replaced by a LATINO.
I would bust a gut laughing.
The Southern Poverty Law Centerhas called for CNN to fire Lou Dobbs! YAY!
Tony Alamo ConvictedA vast conspiracy headed by the Vatican has gotten a conviction against self-described martyr Tony Alamo because of his Christian faith — the most important tenets of which, apparently, are not paying taxes and having sex with little girls. That sure isn’t the Christianity they taught in MY Sunday school!
Another way to phrase that attitudeand I’ve run into it too many times:
“God said it. I believe it. That settles it.”
Thinking is not an occupation that fundamentalists tend to bother themselves with very much. It’s too much work for them to hold to their little fundie maxims if they start thinking.
here’s some pics of the wedding flowersOur room mate took lousy pics, and btw that’s the back of me….don’t ask about the hat, it’s my hubby’s hat who’s shaves his head, but working in that glaring white amphitheater in 94 degrees and high humidity….was toasty.
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