Excellentand might I say highly meaningful.  Knowing that trans people are now on the corporate radar means that corporate backing of civil rights bills can’t be too far behind.  Our united voices carry.

This is excellent newsHit ‘em in the pocketbook.  Everybody’s money is the same color green.  Thanks for all the dedicated work, Autumn.

Thanks for this info AutumnAs a frequent diner at Chipotle who was unaware of this situation, I’ll be writing them a thank you letter to help reassure them they made the right decision.

Looking at the station’s website Snapple sponsored several of their eventsTHAT loss will be considerable.
There is an griffen and reed eye care centers company that has stated their ad falling in the middle of this show doesn’t reflect their view point…*cough-COP OUT-cough*
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…
Over at huffPo they are encouraging grateful folks go en masse to a Sonic’s Saturday Night…..yum, and have a Dr Pepper too
Daily Kos has a good diary on this too

Link to Original Transgender BroadcastFor those who are interested in listening to it since the original link has been taken down…
http://www.inlookout.com/2009/…

Apologize?I say don’t stop ’til they’re fired.  Any apology at this point would be for costing their radio station money only.

Rewarding companies that do the right thingI had a delicious Chipotle burrito tonight to say “thank you!” to that company.

Corporate citizenshipI remember going through this over Dr Laura.  Good corporate citizens don’t like their brand name associated with bigotry.  I don’t usually drink Snapple, but I’ll buy some tomorrow right after my lunch at Chipotle.
Look forward to seeing your article on the FCC.

BOTH…. fire the hate jocks, and station apology

FANTASTIC NEWS!!!It’s a challenge to get advertisers to choose right over profit, so a huge BRAVO/A to everyone who made it happen!!!

Just registered to PHB yesterday due to this issue….glad I did.
This is wonderful to see.
Already sent letters to advertisers as well as filled out the FCC complaint form online. A difficult process indeed, looking forward to your posting how to fill that thing out.
Nice to see advertisers responding.

Don WildmonNow watch Don Wildmon, Babs & Barber, and all the obligatory others bitch about these companies pulling their advertising.  ”Homosexual agenda this, Homosexual agenda that”.  
As if they don’t do the same thing.  Isn’t part of their income based on boycotts?

pulled advertisingHooray!  The NOM and LaBarbera crowd threatens up down sideways to do the same thing.  It’s about time we got in on the tactic.  If I hadn’t cut out soda out my life I’d be stocking up on Dr. Pepper right now.  Snapple, here I come!  
Love,
Rick Cabral

Advertiser list pulled?I’ve heard that the station pulled the list of their sponsors. Does anyone have that list saved?

Well have lists up tomorrow.Others have saved lists of the station sponsors, and a friend of mine has a list, as well as a couple of FaceBook pages.

But if you’re a FaceBook member…You can see the list now here.

here’s some of the list from HuffPoTell KRXQs advertisers that you won’t stand for sponsoring hate speech and advocacy of violence and cruelty toward transgender children. Write them:
This act of vitriol calls for action….if you are outraged, tell those that care and that matter:
A LIST OF EMAIL CONTACTS FOR KRXQs ADVERTISERS:
CARLS”S JR. (CKE RESTAURANTS):
pr@ckr.com Press Room
HOME DEPOT
public_relations@homedepot.com
TOBACCO REPUBLIC:
trcigar@aol.com
ALBERTSON”S:
Alicia Rockwell
arockwell@savemart.com
FLEX YOUR POWER
enewswire@fypower.org Editor
info@fypower.org
NISSAN:
Darryl Harrison – Media
Darryll.harrison@nissan-usa.com
BANK OF AMERICA:
joseph.l.goode@bankofamerica.com
AT&T
John Britton
E-Mail: john.britton@att.com
VERIZON:
Debra Lewis
908-559-7512
Debra.Lewis@VerizonWireless.com
McDONALDS:
Walt Riker
Vice President, Corporate Media Relations
walt.riker@us.mcd.com
Heidi Barker
Sr. Director, Corporate Media Relations
heidi.barker@us.mcd.com
WELLS FARGO:
Media Relations: corpcsf@wellsfargo.com
GRIFFIN & REED EYECARE:
info@LASIKworld.com
PRO CITY MORTGAGE:
procity@procitymortgage.com

Found a Chipotle only a few miles from me.  They’ll be getting my lunch traffic tomorrow.

KRXQ advertiser contact list Here is a link to the “Contact Us” page of Entercom Communications Corp, owner of Sacramento radio station KRXQ:
http://www.entercom.com/contac…
KRXQ advertiser contacts:
CARL’S JR.:
Press Room
pr@ckr.com
HOME DEPOT
public_relations@homedepot.com
TOBACCO REPUBLIC:
trcigar@aol.com
ALBERTSON’S:
Alicia Rockwell
arockwell@savemart.com
FLEX YOUR POWER
enewswire@fypower.org Editor
info@fypower.org
NISSAN:
Darryl Harrison – Media
Darryll.harrison@nissan-usa.com
BANK OF AMERICA:
joseph.l.goode@bankofamerica.com
AT&T:
John Britton
E-Mail: john.britton@att.com
VERIZON:
Debra Lewis
908-559-7512
Debra.Lewis@VerizonWireless.com
McDONALDS:
Walt Riker
Vice President, Corporate Media Relations
walt.riker@us.mcd.com
Heidi Barker
Sr. Director, Corporate Media Relations
heidi.barker@us.mcd.com
WELLS FARGO:
Media Relations: corpcsf@wellsfargo.com
GRIFFIN & REED EYECARE:
info@LASIKworld.com
PRO CITY MORTGAGE:
procity@procitymortgage.com

Wells Fargo supports the LGBT  I am sure they wont want to be associated with the Jerks.  I will write them later this evening as well as sending the info to the branch I bank with.

Query ….Because I haven’t been following all the postings regarding this (not on my priority list at the moment)has the writer complained to the owners and station management in regards to this matter ?
If you have, very good. If not, why ?
And what about the other station that carries the anti-LGBT trio, anything done about that station ?
You can complain all you want to the FCC, that will prove to be a deadend. So I’d work on station management and ownership. You will most likely find all the info you need at the websites. If nothing else click on EOE, it will list ownership and you can go from there.
In regards to the three advertisers, sounds like grand standing for some “good” PR to me.
All they had to do was refuse to have their spots run during that show, not cancel their ad run for the whole station.
Um, when are you going to go after Howard Stern ?

I love Sonic Burgers, fries and a Dr. Pepper float. Really, I do. It’s sky pixie food.
As for these two little piggies, Williams and States, it’s bacon time. Fry, fry, fry.

Humanity has played this game before.I will start out this piece by pointing out a few things about our current state of political affairs.
> Obama has left military tribunals in place.
> Obama has left the enemy combatant status in place, allowing for the arrest of American citizens based upon nothing more that the president’s whim.
> Obama has challenged the courts rulings that the executive follow the writ of habeas corpus.
> Obama has suggested he have the power of “preventive detainment.”
I will not for a second say to you that what Rob and Arnie said wasn’t ugly and hateful.  That was the most angry I have ever been at this show, and it was pretty high up there as far as in life.  Behind that time were the times hearing Arnie stubbornly repeat that gay people made a choice to be gay.  I was infuriated that his examples of high-profile bisexual people changing from opposite sex partners to same sex partners would be applied to all people who claimed to be gay, and if they said otherwise they were lying.  How could he not allow himself any empathy and believe someone who said they never made any choice?  I knew what it felt like to be on the receiving end of bigotry, and a new way to define it: my life experience was automatically invalidated because I belonged to a certain group of people. (Gay)
And now I’m not angry but deeply hurt and concerned as I see that the LGBT community has no problem not showing any empathy.  I was infuriated, but I never perceived a threat against transgender children or adults for that matter.  In retrospect I believe it is because if either of these men had children, I just don’t think they would actually use that language.  The deep and thoughtful conversations they have had about how you treat your significant other, how you deal with family, friends and those you love.  How you define respect not only for those who you love, but for yourself as well.  However from my experiences here I know that no one will believe me.  My life experience has been automatically invalidated because I belong to a certain group of people. (RAD Fan)
Dawn was abused as a child, faced domestic abuse as an adult and faced bulimia as well.  Because of her being so open on the air for thousand of strangers, I’ve heard callers thank her because her doing so helped them get through their own examples of abuse.  Get through their own examples of body and self image.  I have heard more people than I can count thank Dawn for saving their lives.
Arnie had incredible issues with alcohol, it was destroying his life and he had no control over it.  After having an accident while driving drunk he realized he had no control over alcohol and never ever drank another drop.  He has been sober for 12 years and has used his place on the radio as a platform to help others, by being so open about his life.  More people than I can count have called the show in desperation, in hopelessness, in fear because they have lost control of their lives to alcohol.  I’ve heard Arnie sincerely help them.  I’ve heard callers again and again thank Arnie for saving their lives.
Rob had serious self esteem issues as a youth and seeked counseling as part of his growing past that.  He has approached his life with a furious desire to succeed and be the best he can be.  He not only owned his own home in his early 20′s, he ran his first radio station.  He has been open about his approach to life and how he went from being struggling with little money to being very successful, owning the radio show.  Yes, I’ve heard callers thank even Rob for saving their lives.
I know you must be thinking that none of this excuses what was said, and it doesn’t.  However the lack of empathy showed the ease of invalidating another’s life experiences.
I will not and can not say to any one of you that you didn’t have every right to be angry, to be deeply offended.  You also have every right to use your collective voice to counter ugly bigotry.  Why I have been posting and why I am writing this is because I feel that we are heading in a direction that is been repeated many times in history and will result ultimately in the loss of our own freedoms.  As a teen I came across the graphic novel, Maus, by Art Spiegelman.  It depicted, through anthropomorphic characters, the experiences of the author’s father, a holocaust survivor.  Though I had been aware of the holocaust before, and horrified at the concept, seeing an artist depiction of people being burned in the bit they themselves had dug…  that is one of the times I define as life changing.  I read plenty after that, I wanted to know, how could people do this?  How could a relatively free place become such a hell?  Over the years I came to a freighting realization.  These things happen because human beings are all to able to be good people, but do and say ugly things and lead themselves into the noose as their own ugliness turns against themselves.  In researching different tyrannical societies in history, a theme became clear.  They were always the ones who had their people start to do ugly things to people because they thought that it was the best way to make the world better.  It was the best way to end the suffering all humanity has always had as its ghoulish companion.  Through how they tried to make peace and happiness, they created the greatest examples of suffering we have seen.
Autumn used the term verbal violence in one of her posts.  In another post she invoked the spirit of non-violent direct action, quoting Martin Luther King Jr and Ghandi.  I will unapologetically state that I feel this is deep hypocrisy.  Rather than keeping the response to an matter of speech, the act of calling all the sponsors and complaining to the FCC is taken to shut the show down.  This is an act of violence.  To rob people of something in their lives that they care for, to work to suddenly and brutally destroy something that they may even attribute to why they are alive.  These two idiots said words, words that may hurt someones feelings, can not in and of themselves destroy someones life.  Instead of going the route of non violence you’ve chosen to be violent.  Please, be honest about that, if someone feels their life is destroyed, then what you did was violent.
I know you must be thinking that they have a responsibility for what they say.  That when they use the public/people’s airwaves they don’t have the full extent of free speech.  That chills me.  It reminds me of reading English-Language news from China concerning Falun Gong, that they were not using their speech responsibly.  That this spiritual group was committing acts of hate and discrimination against the Chinese people.  That in their pleas for help and in their stories of awful abuse, they were not using speech, but were rather committing grievous acts of libel against the Chinese government.  I ask you to understand my passion when a brutal dictatorship can take each of your arguments and use them to harm people.
Rob has wanted to be in radio since he was 14.  This man has been in radio his entire life, he has done nothing else.  He has poured his heart and soul into making a show that while full of immaturity has a lot of heart and reflects society.  I sincerely feel that if he seriously believed that if something he was going to allow on the air would end his business, he wouldn’t have done so.  Even if it was his honest opinion.  I mean a life’s work being lost overnight?  That’s something to be afraid of I’d say..  And I’m reminded of another aspect of good societies gone wrong.  The incremental fear.  It starts with a small group being made to be afraid to say something, because of government or popular reaction.  After that group has become silent, another is faced with the same, until everyone is afraid and no one quite knows how they woke up in this nightmare.  But the fear, pain that of that person, whose life your are destroying?  No empathy, it doesn’t matter, his life experiences are automatically invalidated.
I love this show.  Its a part of my life, even they don’t know me from Adam, I care for all three of these guys.  Doing so doesn’t mean for a second that I accept any amount of bigotry in them.  However I now face the possibility that something I care about is going to be suddenly ripped out of my life.  I get to be hurt, I get to be violated, and you are going to look me in the eye and tell me that this isn’t an act of violence.  You are going to look me in the eye and say it is okay to traumatize thousands of people?  If I made people feel this way, I know I couldn’t look myself in the eye and dare invoke the likes of Martin Luther King or Ghandhi.  What this has taught me is that we have no qualms about using power over people.  
Perhaps some are thinking of responses that would involve the word children in caps or bold.  To this I remember how in unfree societies, the natural protection of children is used.  Most of us will react with a very deeply rooted instinct to protect at all costs.  And while we go all “mama bear” we don’t realize what exactly we’re mauling.
If the LGBT community is serious about advocating freedom, they will immediately turn back from this path of demanding a show be taken off the air.  They way you are doing this, wouldn’t have helped me one iota with my own problems coming to terms my homosexuality.  It was never ending the bullying or hate I needed, it was the finding of strength and pride in myself.  I found my self worth due to a moment where someone cared for me and helped me.  There are people who found such moments from this show, and you have no problems taking that away from people in the future.
I feel ashamed to be gay today.  Not because there is anything wrong with being gay, but because of the bigotry and ugliness my community has used.  What is worse is I know you are all good people who want to make the world better.  I count this whole thing as a life changing experience, and if this show is taken off the air I will consider that the day that freedom died.  Sometimes the cost of freedom is to get yourself deep into the muck with ugly, bigoted people and loudly defend their right to say their opinion.  Sometimes you have to get yourself spat upon by people who you care for.  I proudly will do so, because I know damned well if I don’t it I will face a day where my honest thought out opinions will be categorized as bigoted, and I will have my own life destroyed.
We need a new kind of Gay Activist.

Thanks!n/t

Ummm…I get to be hurt, I get to be violated, and you are going to look me in the eye and tell me that this isn’t an act of violence.
One of my best friends is trans. In the 6 years I’ve known her, she’s gradually come to a place where she can accept and be proud of who she is. I’ve watched her struggle to get people to understand that transfolk aren’t the punchline of a joke.
She’s the one who first told me about the hateful segment on that show. I can’t imagine what she must have felt just reading those words–although I suspect it’s not that different from the way I feel when I see some of the racist vitriol spewed at Obama.
If I sat by and did nothing to say that this is not acceptable, I wouldn’t be able to look one of my best friends in the eye.

Bullshit argument

If the LGBT community is serious about advocating freedom

Free speech, contrary to what the right wing thinks, is not speech free from repercussions. The only people who have that kind of free speech are dictators, because no one dares contradict them. Free speech means they get to say whatever they want, and then we get to saw whatever we want. Free speech includes me telling their sponsors that I won’t buy their product because they associate their product with something hateful.

Sometimes the cost of freedom is to get yourself deep into the muck with ugly, bigoted people and loudly defend their right to say their opinion.

Of course they had the right to say what they said. And now we have the right to respond. Again – free speech is not speech free from contradiction. Freedom is not freedom from responsibility for your actions. Tolerance is not tolerance of bigotry and people who want to harm others.  

I don’t give a crapThey may have some poor childhoods, and I can tell you’re deeply involved in the show.
But it doesn’t give them the right to demean and dehumanize people like me, and especially attacking transgender children! Calling them “freaks”? Where in the hell’s your empathy for them?
For someone to advocate throwing a shoe at a child is reprehensible! Do you know how many trans kids have been thrown out of their homes, or attempt or complete suicide because of such abuse?
These two bigots need to realize that yes, we have free speech, but such freedom comes at a cost — responsibility.
I’m in radio too, and I’m constantly conscious of what I say. I wouldn’t be a proper commentator unless I did! And to claim that Arnie’s remarks about throwing a shoe was “funny” because he doesn’t have a kid is just plain wrong! It makes me nauseous to even hint it’s funny!

You must have missed the part where they encouraged parents to beat their children for cross-dressing.Did you miss the segment where they said that if they had a son who wanted to wear high heels, they’d beat him with the shoe? That’s child abuse.
All over the world right now there are children who are realizing that they are a different sex than their parents say they are, or that they are attracted to people of the same sex. And you are defending a show that encouraged people to beat their children for who they are.
I really don’t have anything else to say.

I wrote to the Vice President and Station Manager, a very polite email.I haven’t had a response. I used my real name and real email address. I pointed out that the show had advocated child abuse, which is illegal. I also said that I thought that the station should put together some minimal standards for the content of their shows.
No response. Nothing’s been done. I will write to the sponsors with whom I do business and thank the ones who have removed their advertising, and suggest that the others do the same.
Sometimes money is the only thing that bigots understand.

So Doc.Let me see if I can follow you, by using a simple analogy, with myself at the center.
For the purposes of argument, lets assume you and I are friends.
And also, lets assume that throughout our interpersonal relationship, I had been a publicly fierce advocate of GLB rights.  Writing the congresscritters, attending marches, meetings, etc.
Now, you and I, in this hypothetical relationship, have a third friend, they happen to have a transgender child (M2F, F2M, doesn’t matter).  Our mutual friend finds out about this, beats the crap out of this poor kid, and boots him/her out of the house.
I express the opinion that this kid is a “Freak” and just looking for attention, and that this mutual friend did the right thing, and I would have done the same thing.
Do I automatically get a pass because my deeds in the past were mostly benevolent?

Enough with the self-flagelating gay shameDoc wrote:
“Rather than keeping the response to an matter of speech, the act of calling all the sponsors and complaining to the FCC is taken to shut the show down.  This is an act of violence.  To rob people of something in their lives that they care for, to work to suddenly and brutally destroy something that they may even attribute to why they are alive.  These two idiots said words, words that may hurt someones feelings, can not in and of themselves destroy someones life.  Instead of going the route of non violence you’ve chosen to be violent.  Please, be honest about that, if someone feels their life is destroyed, then what you did was violent.”
These hate-radio ignoramuses were not simply trash-talking, they were advocating and inciting violence against trans children. Anyone who spews vicious propaganda over the public airwaves deserves the blowback they bring on themselves. LGBT people are not responsible for these misanthropes’ pathetic lives or their wretched childhoods – if they are victims, it is mainstream society that has brutalized them into howling banshees and we have every lawful right to intimidate their benefactors into silencing them.
It was misguided for Autumn to accuse posters in another thread of “verbal violence” and it is masochistically twisted of Doc to do so in this case as well. Nothing I’ve read here has implied any threat of physical assault or any unlawful form of retribution whatsoever. Equating rhetorical intimidation with physical violence is a cowardly tactic for LGBT activists to turn on each other. It is in the same league as those who once felt justified to accuse transwomen of being “rapists” merely for seeking to participate in womens’ events.
Committing non-consensual violence in real life is a serious crime and advocating real-life violence in speech is an act of provocation. There is a vivid red line that separates these acts from non-threatening verbal intimidation. You may call my words vicious and reproachful if you like, but you have no just cause to condemn them as “violent”.

I am so G*D DAMN sick of these unrelated rationalesya know these motherf*ckers even tried to wrap themselves as the VOICE after 9/11 to rationalize their FOUL abuse sh*t about trans CHILDREN.
BITE ME!

NEW**** Bank of America dropped their sponsorshipBRAVO!
here’s a post from shadow22 at HuffPo
“This just in from Bank of America…
In response to your inquiry, I would like to express our thoughts to you regarding Bank of America”s decision to discontinue advertising on the station and show in question.
Bank of America is proud to be a leader in supporting diversity and continues to be widely recognized for our progressive workplace practices and initiatives to promote inclusion. This commitment to equality and diversity informs every aspect of our enterprise, including our approach to advertising. As a result, we adhere to a set of media buying guidelines for syndicated programming and for local stations that promote inclusion and help our company reach a broad range of diverse customers.
Bank of America prides itself on fostering a corporate culture that is inclusive of all the communities we serve. Our customers, clients and associates speak different languages; support different family structures and life situations; and have unique and personal financial requirements. In order to meet the diverse needs of our customers, we require a variety of products and services, marketing and a diverse workforce that demonstrate and reflect our awareness and appreciation of who our clients and customers are.
We hope the immediate actions that we have taken demonstrate our longstanding support of diversity, and we hope you inform members of your organization of the steps that we have taken to address your concerns.
Thank you for your inquiry and bringing this to our attention.
Joseph L. Goode, SVP
Global Media Relations
Bank of America”

wrong,Rather than keeping the response to an matter of speech, the act of calling all the sponsors and complaining to the FCC is taken to shut the show down.  This is an act of violence.
Wrong, acts of violence are acts of violence.  Throwing a shoe at a kid is an act of violence.
This is not an act of violence, it is the way democracy works.  To get someone’s attention, to show that something is serious, you tug at the purse strings.  It may not be nice to be on the receiving end of it, but it is not violence, it is not bullying, because we LGBT folks are still very much a minority.  The ones who hate us, who don’t care whether transgender children live to see their identity respected, outnumber us greatly and could very easily overpower our campaign with one of our own.
Also, how dare you say this is an act without empathy.  It is based in empathy.  If we did not care about the plight of transgender children, there would have been no such action as this.
Because of what these people said on the radio, some transgender child somewhere is going to be berated and put down by her or his parents.  I was once that child and i remember vividly being terrified to tell my parents who i am and what i feel.
I watch with profound jealousy, but also a tremendous sense of gladness, when i see parents today who respect their children enough to listen and offer support, and even go to bat for them against the world, when they speak to describe their experience of gender.  These parents have to face a lot of criticism and hardship for it, and to maintain it, in the face of everything the world throws at them, is an act of love and courage.
Rob and Arnie shat all over those parents and their children with their vile comments, for no reason other than they thought it would be amusing.  Why should we bend backwards to show empathy for those who lack it?

That’s the way to do it …..Good for you Night Owl, you’re handling this in a professional manner and not going over the top or making threats.
As my posting on my blogs are done for the day, I’ll use some of my broadcasting sources (or knowledge of) and see if I can come up with anything useful regarding the parent companies of the two radio stations.
If I find anything useful to those who may wish to carry on a civil discourse in regards to this matter, I will add it to this string of comments.
I will later today have to go to work for a few hours, but as I’m off Saturday and normally do not do postings on my blogs on weekends, I’ll continue to see what I can find out for you folks.
Lyndon Evans
Publisher
Artlyn Entertainment

Autumn Sandeen and Michael RoweI posted this at HuffPo but wanted to share it here with Autumn
   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…
 Michael Rowe and Autumn Sandeen
Just wanted to thank you for bringing this to public attention, and to let you know we are PROUD OF YOU.
You show clearly how an individual can change things for the BETTER, and countless kids lives will be BETTER because hateful clods can’t advocate to hit and demean them.
Here’s to folks who get SH*T DONE!

Ownership …In an earlier comment a link to the ownership of KRXQ, Entercom has been provided.
The other station, this one in Reno, which carries the show is KDOT-FM and is owned by Lotus Communications.
http://www.lotuscorp.com/index…
KDOT-FM website …. http://www.kdot.com
I hope this will be useful to those who wish to pursue this.
Remember be professional and polite as Night Owl has done in his/her correspondence.
Take it from on who has been in the business (CBS Broadcasting) the “whack-o’s” get no response nor are paid attention to.
Advertising is everything to broadcasting, particularly now. And far outweighs any “talent” and radio stations (as well as other broadcasting outlets) can not afford being cast into a bad light which may further weaken ad revenue.
Has anyone thought about contacting the local papers in Sacramento and Reno regarding this.
That may be an avenue to explore and put a greater spotlight and add pressure to “fix” the situation.
Believe me, newspapers love to “knock” the competition (and vice-versa) when given the opportunity.

@DocI suspect you are Rob, you sound too informed to be Arnie.
DON’T you dare compare our efforts to protect children by reporting this disgusting HATE dumped on children through our legal right to inform FCC of violations or our right to boycott sponsors…..as an act of VIOLENCE.
Then to make nonsensical Nazi and Chinese totalitarian rants…is PURE BULL.
It wasn’t radio performers NAZI’s silenced it was proferssors, fine artists, and students.
as a matter of fact Rob and Arnie would be closer alligned with the putrid film maker who propogandized Hitler’s 38 Olympics.
Leni Riefenstahl

Thank you, Lyndon. I expect that most of the correspondence has been polite.Most of the people I know would be outraged by the statements made on that show, and most of them would express themselves in calm, polite terms.
However, there has been no apology or retraction from the station for broadcasting statements that encouraged people to beat and abuse their children, and described transgender children and adults in extremely offensive terms.
I will follow up with the information that you’ve provided. As a parent and human being, I feel very strongly about this. It’s bad enough to have to listen to ignorant, bigoted comments about gay and transgender folks, but this incident went way beyond.

btw Dawn and Arnie’s backgroundsI’ve also survived an abusive partner, after he sexually and physically assaulted me. I’m also  in recovery (ALANON)and was raised in an alcoholic household BOTH parents and BOTH siblings.
I suggest Arnie go back and do some work on STEP 5
“Step 5 – Admitted to God, to ourselves, and another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.”

Good. BoA was on my list of companies to contact. Now I’ll thank them.

attacking transgender people is EASY IN AMERICAThey are one of the MOST acceptable bigotry left to the rabid hate groups, who when they couldn’t jazz up the same kinda hate against gays/lesbians they USED, changed to the “she male” attacks and frighten women in restrooms.
THESE cowardly human refuse Rob and Arnie didn’t even have the balls to confront adult transgender men and women, they stooped to the most DEFENSELESS and WEAKEST opponents, trans CHILDREN.
Their shame should be broadcast coast to coast, on EVERY media outlet.

used = used totyping and being furious isn’t too compatable

Tell that to 3 yo Ronnie Paris But you can’t because his father beat him to death… because his father didn’t want him to be a sissy.
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08…
Tell that to the two 10 yo that committed suicide last month because they were bullied in school because thier class mates through that they were gay.
Tell that to Angie Zapata or tell it to everyone listed here… http://www.transgenderdor.org/…
When hate speech goes unchallenged, it foresters a culture where bullying is tolerated, where violence common.
Go and read this Opinion piece in the Seattle times, “The man who shot Dr. George Tiller didn’t act alone”
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c…
Yes, Rob and Arnie have a right to say what they want, but we have the right to say that we will not tolerate it and we have the right to call for them to be fired.

Sacramento Press link on KRXQ story   http://www.sacramentopress.com…
let them hear from US

Carl’s jr restaurants dropped their ads too…….YAY!!!!from HuffPo
“Hey everyone, it’s Carl’s Jr. for lunch today!
Dear Concerned Reader,
Thank you for your email. We have pulled all of our ads from KXRQ. (they got the call letters wrong) We did this as soon as the matter was brought to our attention.
We appreciate your concern and thank you for contacting CKE Restaurants on this matter.
Regards,
CKE, Public Relations
Guest Response Line: (877) 799-7827″
thx bluheron

Feminste is also covering the story   http://www.feministe.us/blog/a…

Verizon stopped their ads tooI need a little celebrating
Rob and Arnie here’s a video for ya
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
and for the folks sending the emails
     http://video.google.com/videop…

I’ll add this gender bendereurythmics vs bronski beat
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…

Autumn via PHB   http://ca-ripple-effect.blogsp…

Rob’s pages gave me a whole Charlie Crist VIBErecipes and dressing for sucess…….hmmmmmmmm?

Nissan won’t renew their contract……going going GONE!

add Wells Fargothey are dropping like DOMINOES
At Twin Cities Pride Wells Fargo employees always had a booth…..BRAVO!

Advocate has a story    http://www.advocate.com/news_d…

Even more are following suit
Article via AP.
Representatives of Verizon Communications Inc., Nissan Motor Co. and Carl’s Jr. restaurants also said they stopped advertising.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…

and AT&T……yay!

About comments …I bring this up for all to see because too many times (and not just our community) people go off the deep end (I’ve seen for myself during my tenure at CBS) when making complaints and those complaints end up in the garbage.
At an expanded posting at my commentary blog FOCUS, what started as a commentary about outing celebs, went far beyond that.
For those who may take a look, the third video (where it reads “yes I’m the Lyndon” shows exactly what can happen when responders make less than civil complaints.
The video players do work even though when you look at the blog there is just a player control bar until you start the video.
It will all make sense when you go to the posting.
Link: http://lgbtrainbowlinksfocus.b…

our Omaha transdaughter was targetThe May 28th show targeted our daughter because of her transition to live fully as herself in 3rd grade in Omaha (of all places.)
We have heard the original broadcast and the follow up.  The things they said were violent and hateful and were not just “harmless opinions”.  We are so happy that the community is standing up for our daughter (and everyone else like her.)  
The vicious statements made on May 28th were an unnecessarily cruel way to express themselves and they crossed the line.
We thank you for defending our daughter and every other trans youth just like her!
Thank you!  Thank you!  Thank you!
“The Mom”

I never could keep it brief….Last night I tried to sleep, and got out of bed several times thinking about writing this.  I finally decided that the point I was trying to make was so important to freedom that I could not do anything else but utilize my speech and say what I had to say.  It took me over two hours to complete, and that’s about the amount of sleep I’ve had.  In kind I do not receive the same effort and consideration I attempted to use.  Its not the first time that’s hours of effort didn’t receive in kind, but all of the times before this such events tended to be when I was arguing on Christian forums that their faith demanded that they have nothing but unconditional love for LGBT individuals…

They may have some poor childhoods, and I can tell you’re deeply involved in the show.

I’m sorry, but you missed the point I was trying to make entirely.  I wasn’t trying to say “look at these guys awful experiences, poor them.”  I was trying to point out by being so open, and being willing to make themselves vulnerable before strangers has had the effect of saving people from suicide.  I was trying to make a point that they provided a support structure of a untold number of vulnerable people, and that you have no problems ripping that support structure away from people who depend on it.

But it doesn’t give them the right to demean and dehumanize people like me, and especially attacking transgender children! Calling them “freaks”? Where in the hell’s your empathy for them?

Where is my empathy for them?  I shared elsewhere my own story of feeling like I wasn’t worthy of life and how I huffed paint to avoid that pain, truly wanting to “float away” and not come back.  I’m sorry that what I learned about defining self worth and how to protect my freedoms means that I believe that not one of iota of self-worth is given by silencing those who dehumanize you, and that by taking the approach of silencing, one’s ability to find self-worth and strength will be hindered.  With all due respect, please do not tell me I do not grieve and feel the deepest pain for others who face such awful, ugly things just because I feel that somehow each and everyone is best served by learning that words have no power but that which we ourselves provide.
Now, that woman out there, who is facing spousal abuse?  That woman who feels trapped and has contemplated suicide in the past, and has found a source of strength in hearing Dawn speak of finding the strength to leave and regain control of their lives?  What I hear being said to her and others who have a support structure is that it is okay to cause them trauma and rip something dear away from them.  For those you do this too, many will feel that their own pain doesn’t matter to you because they aren’t “your people.”

Did you miss the segment where they said that if they had a son who wanted to wear high heels, they’d beat him with the shoe? That’s child abuse.
All over the world right now there are children who are realizing that they are a different sex than their parents say they are, or that they are attracted to people of the same sex. And you are defending a show that encouraged people to beat their children for who they are.
I really don’t have anything else to say.

From glaadblog.org:

While it was heartening for us to hear that Rob Williams and Arnie States did not advocate for violence against children, they also did not hold themselves accountable for their dehumanizing and defamatory words used to describe transgender children in last week’s show.

Ignorance is the main force that drives human beings away from good and decent natures into words and acts of intolerance, dehumanization and violence.  I have seen no shortage of people who have expressed the deepest ignorance of these individuals and their show.  Even after GLAAD accepted that Rob and Arnie were not advocating physical violence against children, no shortage of people continue to act as if they did.  Arnie stated on no uncertain terms that someone who harms another because of their anger and hate “has something wrong with them.”  However, I see again and again the ability because anger to reduce these individuals into mere caricatures, into non-persons:  “As for these two little piggies, Williams and States, it’s bacon time. Fry, fry, fry.”

ya know these motherf*ckers …

And Dawn is grouped in too with your hate.
From glaadblog.org:

It is the very reason why GLAAD commends radio host Dawn Rossi for clearly defending transgender people and the damaging impact that namecalling can especially have on transgender people. Even when in the minority, Rossi was an ally and spoke about the devastating impact namecalling can have on transgender children and how verbal harassment can contribute to a hostile climate and potentially lead to physical harm.

And yet there are quite a few who had no qualms attacking her too.  Had no qualms in claiming she doesn’t really believe in defending transgender people, that she’s putting up a front so her arguments can be easily knocked down.  Had not a qualm one about perceiving her not as herself, but as a sub-human caricature.  Bigotry, Hatred, that’s what I see.  I may have written more than one letter to “Rob, Arnie and Mrs. Kee,” I may have had my times thinking about Dawn “oh you are soooo un-fun” and have I have had my times frustrated and feeling anger at one or another of her positions.  But it is this response to this issue that has taken a beautiful and lovely soul like hers and direct at it the most disgusting and awful things.

Let me see if I can follow you, by using a simple analogy, with myself at the center.
For the purposes of argument, lets assume you and I are friends.
And also, lets assume that throughout our interpersonal relationship, I had been a publicly fierce advocate of GLB rights.  Writing the congresscritters, attending marches, meetings, etc.
Now, you and I, in this hypothetical relationship, have a third friend, they happen to have a transgender child (M2F, F2M, doesn’t matter).  Our mutual friend finds out about this, beats the crap out of this poor kid, and boots him/her out of the house.
I express the opinion that this kid is a “Freak” and just looking for attention, and that this mutual friend did the right thing, and I would have done the same thing.
Do I automatically get a pass because my deeds in the past were mostly benevolent?

First I would start my response that in order to have had a friendship with me the mutual friend would have to show a personality that would indicate an unconditional love for their child.  Anything less and I would not be able to be their friend.  If I had spent years thinking this person was capable of unconditional love and I found they had caused physical harm to their son or daughter then it would mean that particular friendship would be over.  In ending the friendship I would point out that they had violated their own previously given affirmations of unconditional love, and that any hope for our relationship in the future would depend entirely on their ability to once again love their child.
For the relation between you and me.  First off I would have lost a great deal of respect for you (As I have for Rob), and I would have to tell you so.  I would implore you to see how your bigoted reaction against our mutual friends transgender is in complete opposition to your passion for the rights of GLB people.  If I was unable to help you see that, I would most likely have to start breaking off our friendship as well.
What I would not do is start distributing your words and picture to everyone I could.  I would not go to every GLB club, community center and bar to make sure they knew what you looked like.  I would not get as many people as I could together to write and call your boss to get you fired from a job you love.  I reject the notion that not taking such actions is to be considered giving you a “pass.”

Equating rhetorical intimidation with physical violence is a cowardly tactic for LGBT activists to turn on each other.

There are many women out there being abused mentally by their spouses, who feel broken and beaten even though they haven’t ever been touched.  That’s intimidation, and I call that violent.  There are those who criticize the church of scientology who end up with church members protesting on their lawn, loudly proclaiming them a violent bigot against religious freedom.  That’s intimidation, and I call it violent.  Others have faced long and weary court fights funded by large pockets and skillful lawyers in a practice L. Ron Hubbard referred to as “soul cracking.”  That same tactic has been used over and over by the aberrant Phelps family to silence their critics.  That’s intimidation, and I call that violent.

Also, how dare you say this is an act without empathy.  It is based in empathy.  If we did not care about the plight of transgender children, there would have been no such action as this.

You are able to feel empathy for those whose pain you already feel and who’s life experiences you share?  With all due respect even Phelps is capable of that.

Rob and Arnie shat all over those parents and their children with their vile comments, for no reason other than they thought it would be amusing.  Why should we bend backwards to show empathy for those who lack it?

Because you are a better person than they are. Because you hold yourself to a higher standard than they do.

I suspect you are Rob, you sound too informed to be Arnie.

While writing the post I was sure someone would accuse me of being a member of the show.  I made the prediction based upon previous debates with people who I felt were bigoted against me.  Sure enough someone fulfilled my expectations.  
I would describe what I have seen as such:  When you had hate thrown your way, you gave it back.  When treated with bigotry, you respond with bigotry.  In what you feel is defending your children, isn’t.  I see an angry rush for your pound of flesh.  .  It feels less like your protecting people and more like you are enacting revenge. I have seen people feel fully justified in making me feel traumatized by working to destroy part of my life, and others lives.  I have felt emotions invoked in me I haven’t felt since the time when anti-gay words effected me, yet this time they are from people who are supposed to be my brothers.  Rob and Arnie used words, and we need to learn that words are powerless when we don’t give them control over us.  What is being done in response is trying to silence and destroy this show is an action, an action that says “I Have Power over You.”  Action that is an open use of force, of mob justice.  I unapologetically proclaim that I get to define actions taken against me, and I call a spade a spade.  Working to silence and destroy something I care about through the process of intimidation is an act of violence.

Then to make nonsensical Nazi and Chinese totalitarian rants…is PURE BULL.

Yet it stands.  I’ve read Chinese State Newspapers that use all your words about responsibility of speech, of hate, of bigotry and libel…. And then direct them to brutally suppress falun gong.  ”Responsible Speech” has been the mantra of more tyrannies than I could count.
I started off my last post with the four points for a reason.  In America, any citizen can be arrested and held without charge as an enemy combatant, because the executive branch says so.  Military tribunals exist where a human being can be sentenced to life or even death based upon evidence they never get to see.  The president has challenged the courts on the writ of habeas corpus, thus fighting for the right to make people disappear without a trace.  ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v… ) And lastly the president has suggested he have the right to preventively detain who have done nothing wrong because he feels they might someday possibly do something… ( http://www.salon.com/opinion/g… )
These issues represent the destruction of some fundamental core elements freedom learned and developed over centuries.  After we formulated their concepts, the act of denying ones right and dignity we easily identified through the denying of these core protections.  Today while we face continuing assault against our dignity, we no longer are just being denying these age old concepts.  These protections have been wiped away or severely damaged, and always under constant assault.
One thing that chilled me over the last eight years was Naomi Wolf’s warning about all of the fascist pillars that were coming into place in our society.  There are still there…  before we had a bumbling idiot that only the deepest cool-aid drinkers still liked.  Now we have Joe Cool Suave who seems to have the rhythm down of offering a very inspiring good, with grave violations of freedom.
(Insert ~4 hr break away from computer here)
I’ve had more time to think about this.  I’ve gone back over the blockquotes used in the original call to action, reflected on this show, and the people who compose it.  I used the words hateful, ignorant and ugly to describe it.  I’ve said that it is the angriest I have ever been at this show, and one of the strongest emotional response of anger, and in particular it caused me to lose a great deal of respect for Rob Williams.  I stand by all of that but one thing: it wasn’t hateful.  First the shoe.  Everyone has this image of savagely beating a child with a  shoe.  The image was something another commenter elsewhere in the blogsphere mentioned where an exasperated mother would throw a shoe at an misbehaving youngster.  Acceptable?  I think obviously not.  A savage beating?  Hateful? No.  
To explain why the rest isn’t?  There have been two times, during riding the bus, I have seen two different mothers having their four to five year old sons on toddler leashes.  Both times the child was tugging on the leash, with a heartbreaking distraught look.  The mother chatting away with someone else, with the intermittent command to the child, as if it were a dog.  Not only a dog, but a poorly treated dog.  Think about how that would make you feel.  How about when a toddler in Arizona is left in the car in 120 degree weather, and the child dies.  With the explanation of “I Forgot” parents are not punished whatsoever because “They suffered enough.” These guys have raged with undeniable passion and sorrow when innocent children are harmed, and when children are not given the leadership and full expression of love they need.  However all three are ignorant about the truths on transgender children and the actual results of what through their ignorance thing is nothing more than tough love.
So we have a passionate care for children, and a years long frustration and anger over the ever worsening care of our children.  Add a forum that is open and honest enough to reflect society and reflect real people, good and bad, with people who have enough respect and care for another to disagree and degrade into passionate yelling matches, yet walk away with a deep friendship.  Lastly toss in a huge helping of ignorance and mix well and we have the best recipe for an explosion I’ve ever seen.  Add our spark of the news article, and viola here we are.
These guys crossed the line, I know that.  I wouldn’t be surprised if they know that.  It wouldn’t be the first time that Arnie used a joke that couldn’t possibly be considered funny and brought the show over the line concerning children.  A line that wasn’t realized it was crossed until days later.  The last time the people the show offended were given the show’s forum to speak on the issue and educate the show members and audience.  That time Rob offered the show’s resignation freely.  The glaring difference between this time and that time is that time the offended group openly stated they didn’t want the show to end, they just wanted the opportunity to educate everyone.
I love this show, and it is a part of my life.  It is a part of a lot of other people’s lives too.  The feelings I have had remind me of times when I’ve faced the possibility of the loss of a family member.  Instead of coming to us and just asking for a chance to educate us, you all grabbed the torches and pitchforks and came to not only end the 20 year careers of the three, but to rip a valued member of our communities away.  (Was there ever a year they didn’t win best radio show in both the Reno News & Review and Sacramento News and Review?)  You have openly said to us that you have the right to inflict pain upon us, that it is acceptable to use force unless we say what you want us to say exactly when you want us to say it.  Yes, more than ever I call you all out for being perpetrators of violence upon my family.  Further more even louder I tell you that you are all good people with a deep passion to end the violence, bloodshed, misery and tears on this world.  However, the anger we feel with that allows us to be blinded, and allows good people to be very very ugly.  Please I beg of you both as a member of the Rob Arnie and Dawn family and as a gay man, please turn away from this, don’t continue to silence and destroy us.  Perhaps there is still a chance to educate and dispel ignorance from the studio of the Rob Arnie and Dawn show.  I sure know that if there is one thing that angers Rob Williams beyond anything: willful ignorance.  Comeon!!  There has to be a way to work with that!
Please do not allow yourselves to do this. Please do not allow yourselves to essentially proclaim a human being can destroy another human being’s life because you are angry.  Otherwise I am certain more than anything else that you will one day all to soon be wondering why you have suddenly awoken in a world where you have no control over your destiny whatsoever.

Destroy another human being’s life?
i’ve pretty much let you run your course without seriously challenging you. But i’ve had enough of you.
You are not trans.
i am trans.
i grew up in the most bigoted, racist, abusive, violent-to-the-extreme trailer-park trash environment you could possibly imagine, much less experience. You might have come from a similiar experience, but my experience was not yours.
It has developed within me the belief that most people aren’t capable, really capable, of understanding just how dangerous and powerful public attitudes and media words are on the ignorant. More so when the ignorant are prone to abusive behavior to begin with.
Some of my most well-behaved relatives, on a good day, would sound just like those DJs in public.
Rest assured that countless ignorant, intolerant parents were nodding their heads in agreement when that specific form of hate was broadcast, and were either encouraged to continue violence or start using it.
Don’t even try to pull your ‘but I’m bi or gay or whatever’ card on me. Trans children can often stand out much more, which makes them taller nails that get pounded down that much harder.
My life was destroyed because of idiots like them. Trans children as we speak are having their lives further destroyed now because of those idiots.
Get over it. As much as you’re trying to make it, it’s not about them. Or you.
It’s about every kid right at this moment going through the hell i went through.

Let this be your educationYou keep slipping into first person when talking about the radio hosts. You either have a pathological obsession with this radio show, or you’re one of the hosts. Either way, you need professional help. If you think throwing a shoe at a child is a sign of “frustration”, let’s hope you don’t have any children in your care any time soon.
That sponsors are reacting this quickly, and this uniformly, should tell an objective observer that what was broadcast is near universally rejected by society. Equating individual response to government-sponsored censorship is disingenuous, at best. I have a hard time believing you sincerely think they’re comparable.
To reiterate my points above – points you skipped over – freedom of speech does not mean you get to say whatever you want and no one can refute it, or call you out on it. This segment didn’t just cross the line, it took a hefty dump on the line, and then danced its way past. It went beyond unfortunate, beyond bad taste, and ended up in the truly vile. People are reacting accordingly. And they’re completely within their rights to do so. You lament the fact that no one has approached the show with their hand out, offering to educate the hosts. If, after all this outrage and rejection, the hosts can’t be bothered to admit what they said, offer a sincere and shamed apology, and go on to never, ever go this far again, they’ve demonstrated they’re beyond education. Why should anyone waste their time educating the ineducable?