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Wow. You want to see an Autumn Sandeen For Pam’s House Blend video interview where I’m at my least analytic and coherent, this video is it!
This particular interview was done at the end of a 16 or 17 hour long Saturday at the California Transgender Leadership Summit — and right after Peterson Toscano‘s performance of Transfigurations and Joe Stevens’ (one-half of Coyote Grace) two musical sets at the San Diego Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Community Center — plus I’d had only 4 hours sleep the night before…I was essentially punch drunk. Oh my gosh, my hands are just flailing about in what many would see in a distracting way, I use terms like “crap” and “queer-o-sexuals” … 
Wow. I was so tired, I was breakin’ all the professionalism “rules” of interviewing.
This was not me in my finest of interviewing — but at the same time, I look at this interview as such an informal, incredibly fun, and compelling interview to do, because…
…the interview subjects! What a great couple that lesbian, transgender woman Mila Pavlin, and “Bacon Tomato; bisexual, transgender woman” Jayna L-Pavlin (her words, not mine!) were to interview! Mila and Jayna are the co-creators (and on-air talent) for the podcast Trans-Ponder; they write quality comic book Ocity (how kewl is that!), and they both have really, really interesting day jobs. 
And, that they’re both trans and legally married to each other — again, what an really interesting couple doing really interesting things!
Oh — and the two do identify as a queer couple, which we discussed before the interview, so playfully calling the pair queer-o-sexuals was definitely meant in an celebratory and endearing way. 
From the interview:
Mila Pavlin: …Trans-Ponder is never a back-up plan!Autumn Sandeen: And, this is where we’re going to start talking, because besides you [Mila] being working [sic] at the Transgender Law Center — which is one of the major organizers of this summit — and you [Jayna] working as a video game programmer…
Jayna L-Pavlin: Not a programmer! An artist!
Autumn Sandeen: An artist!
Jayna L-Pavlin:Animator, 3-D stuff, yes.
Video game development.
Autumn Sandeen: Video game development. See, that would have been a better word for me to use because “development” covers so much crap.
Mila Pavlin: It’s a big word.
Autumn Sandeen: It’s a big word, and it doesn’t have to have any [specific] meaning…
But you also run a really kewl [inaudible]…
Mila Pavlin: Podcast.
Autumn Sandeen: Podcast.
Jayna L-Pavlin: Podcast.
Mila Pavlin: Internet radio.
Ah yes. These two create the Trans-Ponder podcast, create the Ocity Comic Book, as well as provide a means to obtain a well designed transgender symbol necklace. Is there any magic these two creative folk couldn’t do well? 
Somehow, I doubt it. 
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Related:
* NCLR’s Shannon Minter at the Cali Transgender Leadership Summit: “Sure! I am a transgender man.”
* California Transgender Leadership Summit: Interview With Transgender Historian Susan Stryker
* California Transgender Leadership Summit: “Like, A Totally Inclusive ENDA,” Dude.
* California Transgender Leadership Summit: “Hair Can Be Straightened – Gay, Not So Much”
* California Transgender Leadership Summit: Vicki Estrada, Summit Chair
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9 Comments
OMGThis is… so wonderful.
Our eldest is not just “a good artist in school”; she is obsessed with drawing 24/7 (ESPECIALLY CARTOONS)- we’ve been looking at a variety of colleges for this, computer graphics/design, etc for awhile now. The past year she has been working more with computerized artistry.
Mary has also been learning/teaching herself about gender identity as some of her characters are LGBT. Creating anime-style characters that are realistic and not a parody/insult has been a challenge for her to learn about.
I am SO gonna share this with her when she wakes up- at noon…
Great job all!Autumn you don’t have anything to worry about with the interview – all the love still came through =) You three were all obviously pretty wiped out by this time at the summit – I can’t remember seeing any of you there when you weren’t keeping very busy. At least not till the room party Saturday night.
It was a pleasure meeting you at the party Autumn! I’m just sorry I didn’t say hello to you till Karin and I were leaving.
Mila and Jayna – awesome job last weekend. You two are the best! Oh and great recap of the Leadership Summit in Trans-Ponder episode 114!
Lotsa love!,
Gwen
cool indeed.I’m trans and I draw a comic from time to time – never made any money from it and it gets harder to find the time to do it.
Mila and Jayna are a lovely couple and I wish them the best.
Damn, TerriYou are GOOD! Hope you can find the time to do more.
very coolYeah Terri, great work! Hope you find more time to keep up with the comic!
Hugs!
Gwen
That comic looks kind of coolthis coming from someone who spends entirely too much on x-men comics on a weekly basis =p
I hope to see you again!Our community is can be pretty darn wonderful, can’t they?
And please, always come up to me and say hi when you see me, Gwen. 
I may be busy, but if there is any way I can make time to talk, of course I will.
Oh, and talking over a hammerhead (cup of coffee with a shot or two of espresso) — even more better!
caffeineOh yeah… can’t argue about caffeine. M-m-m-must have more… cappuccino!
And next time I see you I’ll just ambush you with a hug. Carefully of course…=P
Gwen
Thanks!Thanks Autumn and everyone for the great comments. We are updating as we speak, catching up from the leadership summit and should have at least a page a week for some time.