crossposted on Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters
Sometimes we get so caught up in calling religious right groups liars and bigots that we sometimes neglect giving specific proof of our claims.
With that in mind, I want to focus on an interesting item I discovered on the Concerned Women for America's (CWA) webpage.
In the 2005 piece which remains on the webpage, Several Reasons to Oppose Same-Sex Marriage, CWA outlines several reasons why Americans should oppose same-sex marriage.
Like the majority of information put out by religious right groups, this list is full of distortions and studies taken out of context. However, there is one thing I want to zero in on:
One epidemiological study found that “gay” men lose 8-20 years off their lifespan. (Source: Hogg RS, Strathdee SA, Craib KJP, O'Shaughnessy MV, Montaner JSG, Schechter MT. Modelling the impact of HIV disease on mortality in gay and bisexual men. Int J Epidemiol 1997;26(3):657-61)
In Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver AIDS has been the leading cause of early death among men since 1989. (Source: Hogg RS, Heath KV, Strathdee SA, Montaner JSG, O'Shaughnessy MV, Schechter MT. HIV/AIDS mortality in Canada: evidence of gender, regional and local area differentials. AIDS 1996;10:889-94)
Now those who are familiar with my work on religious right distortions know that the first citation I showed is a distortion of a 1997 Canadian study. We know this because in 2001, the six researchers listed complained about how their work was being distorted.
The fact that CWA cited this study four years after the authors' clarification says a lot about the organization's dishonest.
However, CWA has “proof” that its citation of the 1997 study is accurate:
The above confirmed in other studies as well. Studies in Omega: The Journal of Death and Dying and the International Journal of Epidemiology indicate that homosexuality can take decades off men's lives.
Please note that CWA did not name the authors of these two studies. And I think I know why.
The first study from Omega: The Journal of Death and Dying was co-authored by our friend, the discredited Paul Cameron.
That's another mark on CWA's dishonesty.
The second study is even more interesting – the study from the International Journal of Epidemiology.
I think that it is the 1997 study – the same study CWA claims is proof of the alleged short life span of gay men.
So breaking it down:
CWA says that a 1997 study in the International Journal of Epidemiology proves that gay men have short life span.
It also says other studies prove this point. One of the studies CWA lists as proof is the original 1997 study.
If you doubt me, then I invite you to search the International Journal of Epidemiology's archives like I did.
When I looked for information, I couldn't find anything talking about the “gay life span” except for the 1997 study and the 2001 clarification.
But just in case I am in error, I emailed CWA asking for more information.
I was polite but I doubt that I will receive an answer.
Continuing to distort a study even after it's been clarified as well as relying on a discredited researcher is bad enough.
But if the CWA actually has the cojones to commit such a bold act as distorting the same study in two different contexts, then I'm simply speechless.
Because I have officially seen it all.




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The sad part about this is…That the CWA claim is common-sensically correct and they contribute to it.
The less any group has to lose and the more ostracized they are from society, the more the members of that group engage in risky behavior, suicide, and become victims of violent crime.
The DIRTY SECRET Concerned Women for America and the rest of the hate groups don’t want you to know is that their persecution of gay people increases the very factors that shorten gay men’s lives. If they were actually concerned about the life-span of gay men, they would be demanding equal rights for gay men, as well as the rest of the lgbt community, and all people who do not enjoy the same rights they enjoy.
So, it is no surprise that they would distort studies and lie to blame the victim. Phyllis Schlafly claims marital rape doesn’t exist. Many anti-gay hate groups tend to blame other victims as well, rape-victims being one of those groups.
They also rant against “illegal” aliens, blame poor people for their problems, and the list goes on from there.
They refuse to understand that acceptance, compassion, treating people with dignity and respect go a long way to improve the situations they decry because their real objective is to punish anyone who doesn’t obey the rules of behavior they prescribe for everyone else, but cannot follow themselves.
They are pathological. They are filled with shame and inadequacy because they cannot possibly live up to the their own behavioral rules, they attempt to relieve these feelings within themselves by forcing the rules upon others and claiming them unfit to live in society even as they can’t and don’t follow their own rules.
When other people refuse to accept the validity of these rules and don’t even attempt to follow them, the fundies are outraged and feel persecuted — which only motivates them to work harder and lie more. It’s only a small step further to dragging people behind trucks, chaining them to fences, beating them with baseball bats, and bombing gay bars or abortion clinics.
If they didn’t have gay people to attack, they’d find someone else – undocumented immigrants or people who have different religious beliefs. Promoting fear and hatred of those-who-are-not-like-you is a powerful technique for getting your way. That’s exactly how the Nazi’s did it.
As far as I know, there are no white-supremacist groups that accept lgbt people. It’s exactly the same-thing.
It isn’t about getting people to do the correct thing. The fundies are bullies who will do anything and say anything to get what they do not know how to get any other way: the power to force people to obey and respect them.
Studies show that comprehensive sex education, including condoms and birth control, not only reduces unwanted pregnancies, but also delays the onset of sexual activity among teens. Yet, these groups distort the studies and demand abstinence-only education.
Forcing their world-view on others is more important to them then reducing the number of abortions, solving any societal problems, or reducing human-suffering, becaue these tragedies are God’s punishment for not behaving the way CWA and other fundie bullies think we shou8ld behave.
If they could burn people at the stake and stone them, they would enthusiastically line up to light the fires and throw the first stone.
They ignore all of the studies on how to reduce drug-abuse and to reduce the HIV infection rate among drug-users.
They want to use U. S. economic and military power to impose their will upon others around the world or invade their countries and kill them.
They have a prescription for everything:
If people don’t behave the way we want them to behave they deserve punishment, imprisonment, and early deaths — and it is our job to make sure they get it.
Of course, they also want to eliminate separation of church and state, and have majoritarian rule where minorities have no civil rights or legal protection because they are delusional. Fundies actually think that if they can bully people into obeying them, that the people will wake-up, see the light, and be grateful for their “awakening” – also known as being “born-again”.
The only answer is for us to convince everyone else that equal rights for all are required for our country and our planet to live in peace and prosperity. When a sufficient majority supports equal rights for all, the fundies will either be pushed aside as victims of their own delusional demand for absolute majoritarian rule, or they will learn to get along with others.
Personally, I think it’s time for action.
I’d love to see street theater and other creative activities which simply ridicule CWA, Focus on the Family, and the other hate-groups. Laughing at them and ridiculing them will demoralize them more than anything else we can do.
Of course, there’s my friend’s fantasy, which I have adopted as my own. I’d like to buy the biggest factory in the U. S. which is the biggest employer in a fundamentalist area and which manufactures religious implements popular among fundamentalist Christians — and convert it to making sex-toys. It would also be fun to buy a Bible and hymnal publisher and switch to publishing pornographic novels.
Cherry-Picking Dead Cherry-Licker Data
While the prejudice spread by CWA and the rest of the Bigot Squad may shorten the lives of gay men, it’s nothing like to the extent that they claim our lives are shortened. CWA relies very heavily on the “studies” of Paul Cameron, who has been debunked so frequently and (in some cases) so thoroughly by the scientific community that I’m not sure I’d believe him if he told me Papa Ratty was a bigot.
Paul Cameron’s work is infamous for relying on massive distortion of data. In the case of the two studies relevant here, this is achieved by using data cherry-picked solely from the height of the AIDS crisis as “proof” that being gay is in and of itself critically harming to men’s lifespans. The older of the two “studies” was based on (I think) death rates for gay men in part of Canada in the 80s, and “proved” that gay men’s lifespans are about 20 years shorter than normal; unfortunately I don’t know much more about it.
The other more recent study, which Cameron co-authored with his son Kirk, was based on death rates for gay Danish men in Registered partnerships in the few years following their introduction in the late 80s, and attempted to prove that gay marriage also shortens men’s lifespans. Morten Frisch, a Danish epidemiologist, was asked to comment on the “study” last year by Warren Throckmorton, a former ex-gay proponent and increasingly-frequent debunker of ex-gay lies, especially those of Cameron. Frisch’s comment was that
However Frisch did not stop at a mere comment; Throckmorton summarised Frisch’s response as follows:
Box Turtle Bulletin has loads of interesting info on Cameron here.
So while its is possibly true that CWA’s hate could be leading to shortened lives for gay men, it is equally true that even then the CWA are still lying – because even with that much bile they’re not capable of shortening gay men’s lives that much. Much to their personal chagrin.
AFTER LOSING THOSE DIRTY COMMIES, IT WAS FEMINAZI ABORTIONISTS AND FAGGOTS….
You can google it as easy as I can post postscript proofs. Focus on the Family was in its infancy. James Dobson, a child psychologist and untrained “theologian”, a reactionary Right Wing Religionist, who opposed the APA and all associations worldwide, was its co-founder.
Dobson needed “a hook”, and he found it with Robertson and Falwell, who hijacked Christianity and the Republican party simultaneously. “Godless Communism”, in the person of the People’s Republic of (aka, Commie Red) China, was now our major supplier of goods, and our principal deficit banker. They chose abortion and homosexuality as the new Satans.
Despite the fact that many theocratic fascists had gay or lesbian offspring or grandchildren…..Schaffly…LaHaye…Cheney and Helms…. who work against themselves, and whether they believed it or not………..hundreds of millions of dollars, and a global jetsetting lifestyle was the gift created out of our rights and our very lives taken by violence or suicide.
One of Dobson’s co-founders, a man never homophobic, apologized for FOF and Dobson ten years after its founding.
Dobson, of course, demonized him ad hominem. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I apologize for any confusionAs you so correctly point out, there data is crap.
In fact, here’s a good one for you:
The fundies proof-text the studies for exactly the same reason they proof-text The Bible – to justify their bigotry.
My rather unclear point was that, to the extent gay men’s lives are shortened, it is the persecution that sets that up. Their proof-texting of the data has nothing to do with reality. And, of course their claims are exaggerated.
I’ll bet they also proof-text studies on immigration to claim that immigrants infect us with all kinds of diseases, too. And, don’t forget they’re the same one’s that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old, so carbon-dating and evolution are wrong.
Is that maggot-infested elephant-turd Paul Cameron still around? I thought he’d gone to his reward in Hell long ago.
I missed that part. I was reading the article at 3AM and I thought the article was about the fundies twisting valid studies to satisfy their dastardly plans for the world. I didn’t realize Cameron was still at it with his fake studies.
He was thrown out of the American Psychological Association at least 25 years ago. Of course, he claims the APA is a front group for the gay agenda and wears his expulsion as a badge of honor.
I’m sorry to say…that not only is Paul Cameron continuing to waste our planet’s precious oxygen, but he is also training his son in how to continue his work once he becomes something useful (like food for worms). I recommend you watch out for fairy-tales from Kirk Cameron in the future. I predict that with time they will become required reading for ethics students – in the “terrible warning” context, of course!
I thought Kirk Cameronwas a washed up child-actor from early 80′s televison.